NOC Lumiose Legends Mafia - GAME OVER (Mafia Win)

bluedoom said:
I mean with NE its a meta read and I was the guy's scum buddy in the previous game so fmpov I feel like i can read him better? Like I'm not tunneling on the dude because lolinactive, I'm focusing on him because I expect him to be more motivated as town and had first hand experience as his buddy in the previous game. I've used a similar reasoning for why I tr other less active/arguably scummy slots(ag/lechen). It looks like a tunnel until you realise that I'm trying to bring in my experience in the past game into reading some of these slots. The reason I'm able to put more effort in reading certain slots is by going off of past experiences/meta reads that I have on them, it is extremely difficult for me to read slots like des/af for example just based on play alone.

With skip I've actually been hedgy earlier in the same and I definitely am not playing like a tunneler given the pulsar vote in between, I dunno why my skip vote would be considered a tunnel given that I got flak for *not* voting skip earlier in the game in the first place (because I was paranoid of possibly voting lynchbait).

D2 I'm more ok voting an inactive because I have a bigger pool of townreads that I'm more confident in, a lot of it is also by poe, I think I'd rate my solve as something like:

Ne/pulsar/skip

Dbd/des

You/mekkah

Vizh

Ag/Lechen

Charlie/hyhy/CK


In terms of scummier to towniest. Af is weird to place because nothing about her pings me as town but also, trusting AG's word on her role there

-I'm kinda confused about the last point, what do you dislike about my approach to ne?
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- I mean I guess that's a fair in but my general reading of your posts this playermeta point hasn't really come through until now afaik? Like it's fine to use that experience to question and grill NE but not doing so for the other players (or at very minimum acknowledging this point / lack of experience / confidence in reads on other players) isn't that great.

- If you look at my post I'm not specifically talking about your votes but about your general behavior in between regarding Skip. Most of your "solvy energy" has been focused on these two players and not really elsewhere. Also this isn't particularly damning but I find it interesting that outside of your top three it's DBD who you are not going to vote due to mech reasons and des, who is des. And the way D2 is cracking out I don't think we are going to get info out of those two today (even though I'd like to).

- I was unintentionally rehashing my seemingly tunnel-y point for the last point so fair enough for you to question me here. I think also we were (or at least I was) missing most of the playermeta context that you have here. But I think just generally my reasoning in the original wallpost stands wrt the interaction.

I unfortunately need to do those aforementioned errands now but I will be back closer to EOD. I think my vote is going to stay on you but if you are not asleep, I have one seemingly tangential question for you: Outside of your top 5, what are your thoughts on Mekkah? You can read me too ig but my read of your read of me (lol) will obviously be biased. But again we have seen your reasoning wrt the top 5 so I'm curious to hear your deeper perspective on those outside of that group
 
bluedoom said:
I dunno, the thing with skip is he seems to have completely forgotten that he had a Vizh scumread after sitting his vote on him the entirety of d1
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this i feel has 3 options
1) skip has mech on vizh (e.g. skip copped him) that changes this
2) skip really doesnt care about d1 reads (fair i guess? but seems odd)
3) skip is scum
 
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