Pokémon Presents - Pokémon Day 2025 - Pokemon ZA Info & Pokemon Champions Announced

That sort of thing happens all the time in our world including animals from Hokkaido. Just because conservation existed doesn't mean they were good at it, or even that it was as widespread as it is now. It can be something as simple as introduction of other species that outcompete the locals, a change in environment that removes something necessary, or just plain old overhunting/fishing. And even then, a lot of it could be not being around in Sinnoh but being around in other places such as Basculin/Basculegion in Kitakami and the Hisuian Growlith Perrin has.
Yeah because those animals were hunted or got owned by human expansion.

You cannot tell me that the species that survived to modern Sinnoh make more sense in either climate than most of the Hisuian Pokemon. Most of them are literally just superior to their competitors in the environment for a variety of ways I could explain.

Hisuian Growlithe shouldn't just be "oh it's not in Sinnoh anymore" it's a dog. Are you telling me that this Dog got owned by human settlements rather than being bred to hyper-dominance to shit in a region where we have a British Professor? They're literally known for inbreeding dogs until they have defects and I don't know about you, but that dog species looks inbred already.

Hisuian Growlithe by all means should be dominating Sinnoh. You can say "Okay but then it got out-competed by normal Growlithe" but in actuality Growlithe isn't even in Sinnoh in any capacity.

"Around in other places" again doesn't make sense btw.
 
I also wanna add that some of the Hisuian Pokemon are Ghosts. The Ghost Fish whose lore is that it existed when hundreds of its family members got eaten isn't going extinct because

1. it's a ghost

2. it literally propagates from more fish brethren dying

Speaking of, bass still exists in that climate in modern Japan and I see no reason why Basculin wouldn't exist in modern Sinnoh considering the ocean are full of Magikarp that can't do shit while Basculin can actually defend themselves.
 
Not only is Ash Greninja significantly more important than almost every Mega, it's *one of the reasons Greninja is one of the most popular Pokemon of all-time*, it's not the inverse around. Acting like Ash Greninja isn't extremely important to Greninja itself being super popular is imo ahistorical of the fanbase.
No I'm pretty sure Greninja's popularity came first. It was the clear favorite of the starters right after X and Y launched due to its design and Protean making it a good Pokémon. The very timely Smash inclusion arguably helped way more than a form gifted years after the fact.
 
No I'm pretty sure Greninja's popularity came first. The Smash inclusion arguably helped way more than a form gifted years after the fact.
Obviously not one factor did it but do you not think it was a coordinated campaign from the start?

All of these decisions were made together. Smash decision was made with knowledge of things like Ash Greninja in the pipeline. They'd already decided on trying to make Greninja the "cool" Starter and put it in the anime plot long before that game even released. Before the anime began, frankly.

Greninja would be popular on its own but I 100% doubt it'd be the undisputed #1 if not for Ash Greninja. As for Smash vs Ash Greninja, Incineroar is not the least popular Pokemon ever but it being in Smash didn't lead to it becoming some mega hit.
 
Honestly I interpreted Perrin's Growlithe as a quiet retcon that at least some of the Hisuian forms and evos just exist in modern Sinnoh now and the only reason we see don't see them in DPPt is because the developers did not invent them yet. Haven't played SV but as far as I'm aware her Growlithe isn't treated as anything exotic or unusual, you don't have other characters going "holy crap how did you get that" or Perrin herself talking it up as a special mon descended from the last of its kind or anything of that sort.

If for whatever reason they make a full-fledged DP2 down the road I'm sure the Great Marsh will have Goomy and Peat Blocks
 
It was fun for a time, but the charm wore off pretty quickly for me. It seemed like almost every team ran a Weakness Policy (usually TTar, also Rhyperior, Braviary, Togekiss…). While it was nice to see stuff like Durant and Lapras be good, it was not a well thought out mechanic, I don’t miss it and Tera is far superior.

Interestingly, Wolfe Glick named it the best of the (then 3) Pokemon battle gimmicks.

To be fair... When the core of the argument boils down to "The other two are worse", that's not a good sign :totodiLUL:

The flexibility of Dynamax does make it more interesting in practice, and he did mention some BIG balance issues. Ultimately, I'm pretty sure he must have a vid mentioning how Terastallization blows it out of the water. It's everything that was positive about D-Max, in a mechanic that isn't busted to hell and back.


I also agree that Megas and Z-Moves, especially Z-Moves were trash. :mehowth:
 
Obviously not one factor did it but do you not think it was a coordinated campaign from the start?
No? For multiple reasons. For one, the first episode in the anime where Ash-Greninja is referenced came out 2 years after X and Y launched. And we know the anime staff (which is absolutely separate) had to ask Game Freak for the design, so with the animation lead timeline taken into account there's very little chance that was ready until after the games were out. They clearly had room to adapt and jumped on an opportunity. Otherwise they would have been putting a shitton of eggs into one basket that could have easily not panned out because it is impossible to perfectly predict how a fandom will react to something.
All of these decisions were made together. Smash decision was made with knowledge of things like Ash Greninja in the pipeline. They'd already decided on trying to make Greninja the "cool" Starter and put it in the anime plot long before that game even released. Before the anime began, frankly.
Sakurai has the clout to do what he wants and isn't entirely beholden to TPCi (picked Greninja based basically on vibes iirc), plus he only had early concept art (which likely did not include Ash-Greninja) to work with. There's no way there was a elaborate long term plan here, especially when Ash-Greninja has no references in Smash 4.

Greninja would be popular on its own but I 100% doubt it'd be the undisputed #1 if not for Ash Greninja. As for Smash vs Ash Greninja, Incineroar is not the least popular Pokemon ever but it being in Smash didn't lead to it becoming some mega hit.
Considering its competition was Lucario (who was popular before it had its own super form) it's frankly a tossup there. You could argue recency bias affected Greninja's placement more than Ash-Greninja's existence, especially since the anime part of the fandom isn't as large as the games part.

And Incinear has multiple things going against it. It's a heavyweight in Smash and that leads to so many playability issues even for casual players.
 
Honestly I interpreted Perrin's Growlithe as a quiet retcon that at least some of the Hisuian forms and evos just exist in modern Sinnoh now and the only reason we see don't see them in DPPt is because the developers did not invent them yet. Haven't played SV but as far as I'm aware her Growlithe isn't treated as anything exotic or unusual, you don't have other characters going "holy crap how did you get that" or Perrin herself talking it up as a special mon descended from the last of its kind or anything of that sort.

If for whatever reason they make a full-fledged DP2 down the road I'm sure the Great Marsh will have Goomy and Peat Blocks
There is indication that the Hisuian forms do indeed still exist in the present but are generally considered more rare than they used to be. Perrin herself brings up Ursaluna to the player and says they “weren’t all that uncommon a long, long time ago.” The notion that Hisuian forms all went extinct was always a fan idea that I always found nonsensical from the start, especially given how ORAS suddenly had lots of Pokémon from Gens 4-6 appear in the wild after resolving the Primal debacle.

Even in those games, Birch explained that those Pokémon used to live in Hoenn in the past and are just now returning to the region. Despite how anyone might feel about this sort of explanation or hand-waviness, it’s a precedent that works for the Hisuian forms as well.
 
Yeah because those animals were hunted or got owned by human expansion.

You cannot tell me that the species that survived to modern Sinnoh make more sense in either climate than most of the Hisuian Pokemon. Most of them are literally just superior to their competitors in the environment for a variety of ways I could explain.

Hisuian Growlithe shouldn't just be "oh it's not in Sinnoh anymore" it's a dog. Are you telling me that this Dog got owned by human settlements rather than being bred to hyper-dominance to shit in a region where we have a British Professor? They're literally known for inbreeding dogs until they have defects and I don't know about you, but that dog species looks inbred already.

Hisuian Growlithe by all means should be dominating Sinnoh. You can say "Okay but then it got out-competed by normal Growlithe" but in actuality Growlithe isn't even in Sinnoh in any capacity.

"Around in other places" again doesn't make sense btw.
Considering the main area where you find Growlithe in that game is called "Veilstone", I think it's fair to say human expansion affected it. And dominating Sinnoh? It was something that only lived in one region of Hisui and only then (not counting MMO's) on one ridge that looks to have been paved over in the modern era.
 
Considering the main area where you find Growlithe in that game is called "Veilstone", I think it's fair to say human expansion affected it. And dominating Sinnoh? It was something that only lived in one region of Hisui and only then (not counting MMO's) on one ridge that looks to have been paved over in the modern era.
What. I'm saying is.

Human expansion is good for dogs. That would make Hisuian Growlithe a much more important part of the ecosystem.

It's not a wolf.

Sakurai has the clout to do what he wants and isn't entirely beholden to TPCi (picked Greninja based basically on vibes iirc), plus he only had early concept art (which likely did not include Ash-Greninja) to work with. There's no way there was a elaborate long term plan here, especially when Ash-Greninja has no references in Smash 4.
You won't like my takes on the Smash roster which is that after Brawl just about 80% of the spots are just money picks lol
 
Regarding seemingly limited Pokemon habitats; with major theme of Z-A being "construction", I wonder if we'll be able to swap Wild Zones for different biomes, a la Johto Safari Zone?

Hm, I could maybe see as you progress through the story the Wild Zones go from under construction to a finished "product" which will also result in more Pokemon showing up (and/or maybe causing some Pokemon to move from one Wild Zone to another to fit their niche). However I don't think the player would have any say how the final result will looked as that should have been planned out way before the player arrives to Lumiose City.

Now there will probably be a day & night cycle, but other than that I can't see much else. Would be neat if the story technically takes place over a year thus there will be time skips and you see the Wild Zones go through the different seasons (which you can later revisit in someway, like there's that "cyber" aspect, maybe there's a virtual Lumiose City which the player can use to create simulations with), but that's also more of a Unova/Gen V thing.

If shedinja is present and Champions allows customization within itself, Tera Electric Balloon and variants completely dominate the meta.

Someone tries this and learns that Wonder Guard was made non-compatible with Terastallization so all you did was make Shedinja a 1-Hit-Wonder to all Types (except for Ground thanks to Air Balloon, ironically).

This isn't likely, no Pokemon's base model is changed with Holowear.
Unite isn't likely to ever have Pikachu Libre because this game never actually references that kind of stuff unfortunately.

Just throwing ideas out; personally I see it as their loss (I say for a game they probably already made billions on).
Actually, it's been pointed out in various places but Urbain and Taunie in their rival appearances actually look a lot like the player characters themselves.

(...)

(Which by extension, also means Z-A's player characters' "canon" names are most likely also Urbain and Taunie)

Welp, congrats GF you got one up on me (would you mind doing that more often, I'll gladly have my statements & predictions look ridiculous if it makes for a better game). But, hey, that's good to hear, glad GF are experimenting more with what they can do with the unchosen protag as the rival; if only with appearance.

As for that being their canon names, hm, that's a good question. Would seem the obvious thing to do; but at the same time I can also see GF thinking, since the rivals do technically have a different design to the player despite using the same base model, that they are different characters in terms of presentation (and merchandising). Like think if they were added into Masters EX, previously since the unchosen player rivals still looked like how they would had they been chosen by the player it didn't matter in terms of presentation/merchandising who they chose to have been the protag & rival; they look the same regardless (even for Calem/Serena who I bet most people didn't realize they had a different haircut in addition to missing their hat). But not so here, if that is the character's chosen name than theoritcally half the players Urbain and Taunie aren't going to look correct (granted, they could later do a costume swap and handwave a reason for a little story). But, to make things easier, it might just be better to consider them all different characters.

BTW that's doesn't negate my point. My issue was I thought they designed two new rivals but no matter what you got the opposite gender one thus you might as well just got the unchosen protag as the rival. But them being the protags just palette swapped falls within addressing my issue, even if in lore they're counted as separate characters. They can call the protags Taunain and Urbanie.

Paris. Catacombs. If we don't get to find a movie theater being visited by a bunch of ghost pokemon beneath Lumiose, I'm going to riot.

Phantom of the Opera-Duskull family Regional Variant? (BONUS: Duskull family were not part of the Kalos Dex, Friend Safari are non-canon)

Introducing the final forms for the starters in Legends: Tin Tower, it's Poliwrath, Shiftry, and Chandelure!

I was still implying the Starters will be what GF call the "First Partner" Pokemon, just that as long as they follow the traditional Type Triangle they can pick whoever.

Think of this Public Relations Officer for a small shipping firm

:pikuh:... So I don't really watch a lot of TV, if you're going to post a character from a television series that you'll only know if you watch that TV series, I and whoever didn't watch that TV series is not going to know them.

The Latis are literally the easiest of them to justify, they've already been established to just go roam around random regions for fun.

Yeah but then they couldn't use them as save data unlock bonuses and we can't very well have a Pokemon game which now doesn't smack you over the head to buy another game.

Strangely, Water is almost as badly off in this regard. There are tons upon tons of Water-type Pokémon out there, but only a handful of three-stage families that aren't starters (Poliwag, Marill, Horsea, Lotad, Spheal, Tympole). Grass, however, has plenty to choose between: Oddish, Bellsprout, Hoppip, Seedot, Lotad, Roselia, Sewaddle, Bounsweet, Applin and Smoliv. More than one per generation on average.

BTW, another thing: As of right now, Starters only evolve via Level. So this disqualify all 3-Stage Fire which require a unique method to evolve. Grass has Hoppip & Smoliv (maybe Bounsweet and Sewaddle if you really want to push it), and Water has Sealeo & Tympole.

Clemont watching his life's work turn into a giant gun while the vengeful Team Flare true believers threaten to level his block

I'm pretty sure Clemont didn't build the Prism Tower.

I'm intrigued by Lumiose Museum's prominence in the map illustration. (...) I wonder what could be going on there this time around for it to get higher billing than, say, Sycamore's lab

I mean, protag is a tourist.

Inshallah Meganium will get Flower Veil now

And while your at it have it also affect the Pokemon which as the Ability. Flabebe and Comfey are carrying flowers they bonded with, they should count.

My tinfoil hat idea is that we get regional Kalosian/Lumiosian forms of Meganium, Emboar, and Feraligatr and while they don't get Megas themselves, we'll see Megas for Chesnaught, Delphox, and Greninja instead.

We should give out club jackets to everyone who said this :bloblul:... if only to tell others that "yes, this idea has already been thought of; here's your jacket".

Come to think of it, actually kinda conspicuous that this trailer didn't show off Chespin, Fennekin, and Froakie in any capacity, much less their evolutions.

I don't think they showed much of the Sinnoh Starters before Legends: Arceus release.

(In addition to the popular theory that one will be given out as a second Starter who can Mega Evolve,) Just like the Sinnoh Starters, they'll all be catchable as normal Pokemon in Wild Zones, the question is what form will that take? Will there be three seclusive Wild Zones which, while having other Pokemon of course, is mainly a place to have the Kalos Starters hanging out? Or maybe you need to do something to have them start appearing in certain Wild Zones; maybe permanently, maybe temporary and next time they'll move onto another Wild Zone.

We don’t know much about ZA outside of basic information on the game.
1. Regarding new megas, I don’t expect that many new megas. Ash Greninja being converted into Mega Greninja (X).

2. Yveltal and Xerneas will get Mega-like forms but not true megas, just like how Groudon and Kyogre got Primals.

3. Most like the Aces of gym leaders get Megas besides Avalugg.

4. Another potential Mega would be AZ’s Floette. Either it Mega evolves or Florges-AZ is introduced.

1. Nah, they'd want to keep Ash-Greninja separate from a proper Mega Greninja for marketing purposes (and lore). Plus Ash-Greninja I don't feel changes much like a proper Mega would. Like I can see Mega Greninja changing from your traditional ninja into one who uses mystical power derived from the Kuji-kiri (aka "Ninja Hand Signs"). OR, maybe wanting reinforce its French-based Kalos roots, it becomes something like a gentleman thief (aka Arsene Lupin, the basis for Lupin III); using its tongue like a grappling hook maybe?

2. I could see that, Mega Legendaries are already super powerful they do seem to want to give a limitation to the ones with 670+ BST. Primals immediately go through Primal Reversion on their first turn as Kyogre and Groudon can't resist absorbing as much energy as they can to get one over the other. It has to go with their lore of course; maybe connect it to their Signature Move, they have to use their Signature Move and then knock out an opposing Pokemon.

3. I think normal Avalugg can still get a Mega. Normal Slowbro has a Mega.

4. Mega, maybe, akin to Diancie's. But no evolution into a Florges, I think the implication is Eternal Flower Floette is sort of "manufactured" Floette as it was made to bond with a flower its species normally doesn't. Because of that it's unable to evolve into a Florges as the genetics needed for Floette to fuse with the flower isn't there. Though, because the Eternal Flowers seemingly have a connection to Infinity Energy, the special bond makes an Eternal Flower Floette nearly as powerful as a Florges. And because of that, I wouldn't mind seeing an Eternal Flower Flabebe (with stats nearing a normal Floette), as I imagine the way the Eternal Flower bond is done is via giving an Eternal Flower (maybe a budding one) to a newly hatched Flabebe.

I wouldn't be surprised if Battle Bond Greninja just becomes a relic of the past like Spiky Pichu.

They'll probably pull it out every now and again, like I wouldn't be surprised if Ash makes an appearance in a later season of Horizons (or maybe the anime series after if Horizons only sticks around for Gen 9) and he has Greninja just so in the games they can have Ash-Greninja again. Heck, Ash could just become a "Legendary Trainer", like a folkloric hero, and maybe in referencing that they'll come up with a way for Ash-Greninja to return.

As for Spiky Eared Pichu, let's give it the next games based in Johto before writing it off.

Given we already know that we can use teleport pads to get onto rooftops, and our Rotom Phone to hop across them, I’m not sure how many more traversal options would even need to be offloaded onto (a) Ride Pokémon.

Maybe return of the Rotom Bike? Bicycles are popular in Paris.

So the chaps over at Hidden Power have posited that Eternal Flower Floette (shown in the trailer) may well be the original “Paradox Pokemon”.

That's not how Paradox Pokemon work. I would more argue Eternal Flower Floette is more akin to Bloodmoon Ursaluna, Cosplay Pikachu, and yes Ash-Greninja. They're just notable members of their species instead of an entirely new species like the Paradox Pokemon are (not to mention how they came to be).

I had this old crackpot theory that Ash-Greninja really was supposed to be "<player>-Greninja".

Sounds familiar. :blobthumbsup:

I could have sworn there was an article where it said Ash-Greninja was a creation of the anime team who wanted a special Pokemon as strong as a Mega but only Ash would have.

I've heard various proposals similar to this in that they entail bringing in major elements from other regions (for instance, another idea I've seen fairly often is having Ultra Beasts/Necrozma play a story role). Honestly, I'd rather not: This is Kalos' time to shine first and foremost and I don't want the continuation of its story, characters and worldbuilding getting cannibalized. LA Ingo worked because of how unexpected he was and how despite that he still tied into the overarching themes of time-space displacement and finding value in a strange new land.

One of the neat aspects of Legends: Arceus was seeing the ancestors of certain Pokemon characters, and not just ones from Sinnoh. While it referenced those characters, it also was used to help world build Hisui as these characters had important roles.

Keeping in mind this is Kalos's time to shine, maybe we can still do the "relative to known character" but this time instead of a descendant it's a family member? Parents, siblings, cousins, aunts & uncles, spouses, children, etc., we sometimes hear about them but rarely do we see them (or we do and they're given a generic trainer sprite/model). Have them working for Quasartico, having been brought on because they have a special skill deemed necessary for this special redevelopment project creating a city where people and Pokemon co-exist.

The biggest one is the Switch 2 coming up on the horizon. Ain't no sense in splitting up bread for inferior hardware.

Yeah, best to wait for Switch 2 then.

Why is there a question mark?

Why does it learn Headlong Rush?... WAIT, nevermind, apparently its Japanese name is a sumo wrestling term.

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CAUGHT UP! :blobwizard:
 
What. I'm saying is.

Human expansion is good for dogs. That would make Hisuian Growlithe a much more important part of the ecosystem.

It's not a wolf.
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Yeah... there's just so much wrong with so little.
  1. It's good for domesticated dogs, not feral/wild dogs already living there. Usually those sorts of animals are dealt with.
  2. That's not how ecology works.
  3. It's still a wild canine. Wolves, Dingos, Coyotes, even feral Dogs themselves can be a threat to people or any animals they may own. Fantasy dog monsters still count. Besides, in game they also attack the player
 
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Yeah... there's just so much wrong with so little.
  1. It's good for domesticated dogs, not feral/wild dogs already living there. Usually those sorts of animals are dealt with.
  2. That's not how ecology works.
  3. It's still a wild canine. Wolves, Dingos, Coyotes, even feral Dogs themselves can be a threat to people or any animals they may own. Fantasy dog monsters still count. Besides, in game they also attack the player
You're assuming that Hisuian Growlithe is specifically feral and not likely to be domesticated while the Sinnoh region has pests like Houndoor that are actively implied to be evil roaming about.

Hisuian Growlithe is always portrayed as playful and a Pokemon that is fine around humans. It's not anymore a "wild dog that needs to be taken care of" compared to a canine line where every dex entry is like "This Pokemon is scary and kills things really efficiently", which is an actual reason that we've killed many canine species to extinction in real life.

So why is the Houndoom line around and not the Hisuian Arcanine line?
 
Where's the fossils??? We can revive Pokemon from BONES and you're telling me not even a single Hisuian Growlithe exists in modern Sinnoh? Shit, they'd probably breed that species into being the dominant dog Pokemon frankly, why is that shit not around? We have a British Prof
Presumably the species is extinct in the wild and only survives in not publicly accessible breeding programs run by the descendants of the clans who used to care for the Nobles.
How is Hisuian Braviary not everywhere? It's just the hawk from Unova but with more superpowers how is that shit not dominating the ecosystem?
Given there are no Mandibuzz in Hisui I'm pretty sure Hisuian Braviary was already on the decline long before the settlers arrived.
Why does adding a steel shell to Goodra-Hisui make it so unviable that Goodra is extinct in modern day Sinnoh? And if it didn't go extinct, where the fuck did it go?
The iron content of the swamp was massively reduced, as was the size. Hence why the swamp went from yellow and red to green and dark brown in the modern day. Likely due to the fact that the Teddiursa and Hippopotas lines are no longer present in the area stirring up the sediment with their digging.

Hisuian Sneasel was likely just out-competed by regular Sneasel and the Meditite line. Especially as warming temperatures wiped out the Bergmite line in the area and greatly reduced the presence of the Swinub line.

Petilil was likely just out-competed by Oddish, the two lines' ranges never overlap. Plus the retreating snowfields would have made evolution to Hisuian Lilligant much harder and less necessary.

Stantler doesn't learn Psyshield Bash via level anymore in the modern day, only via egg, implying that the Wyrdeer situation is the same as Mamoswine's but worse. Remember, even back in Hisui times the only wild Wyrdeer was the Noble.
Ash Greninja featured more prominently in Pokemon media than probably like 15 Megas combined. Like what. The anime? Major character. The games? One of the big reasons to play the demo, also broken ass Pokemon.

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It's in Pokemon Picross.

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(Separately from Greninja, mind you.)

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Was in Pokemon Tretta, that JP only arcade stuff.

It actually has 3 variants:

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It got an entire 3DS theme.

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They upload clips from the episodes even like almost a decade after, and they get millions and millions and millions of views.

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This guy's scenes has AMVs by random fans with 10 million views.

Not only is Ash Greninja significantly more important than almost every Mega, it's *one of the reasons Greninja is one of the most popular Pokemon of all-time*, it's not the inverse around. Acting like Ash Greninja isn't extremely important to Greninja itself being super popular is imo ahistorical of the fanbase.

Ash Greninja is significant to the Pokemon's popularity and what it is in the hearts of a lot of Little Timmies, and Grown Timmies nowadays. You could get rid of like at least 20 Megas combined and they'd have less impact on the franchise than this one design that appeared in one Generation of Pokemon.
Greninja also turns into it during its Final Smash in Ultimate.
And while your at it have it also affect the Pokemon which as the Ability. Flabebe and Comfey are carrying flowers they bonded with, they should count.
It does already affect the user, if the user is Grass type.
 
Alright, I don't know how much longer this thread is gonna last before getting locked so hell with it, time to post my craziest plot take: If I were in charge of this game, had unlimited creative control and knew the Ultimate Weapon would be brought back I would have the climax involve a huge section of Lumiose City (perhaps a district or 2) getting blown to smithereens by it.

Like, imagine you beat the last Noble or Gym Leader equivalent. You've received enough clues over the game that something's up but you're feelin' pretty good and then BOOM, big flash of light over the horizon. When you wake up Essentia is lifting a stray chunk of rubble off you and you spend the next 10-15 minutes or so scraping around the wreckage for survivors, all while your Rotom Phone is getting bombarded by breaking news reports of other towns and cities all around Kalos having been decimated (XY characters who didn't make it into the main game could have cameos in these bulletins, e.g. Ramos scouring the ruins of Coumarine on the back of his Gogoat). The postgame would have a few months pass so the area can be playable again, but until then it's cooked.

This is pure a hypothetical, not a prediction or request because I am perfectly cognizant of the fact that this is not happening. For one thing it'd require making a whole new map for a relatively small chunk of gameplay, although I suppose that's not an insurmountable obstacle: Make it a small area blocked off by collapsed buildings, something like that. The more obvious issue, though, is that "what if the player foraged through the blast zone of a nuclear terrorist attack" is way too dark of a setpiece idea for a kid's game.
 
This is pure a hypothetical, not a prediction or request because I am perfectly cognizant of the fact that this is not happening. For one thing it'd require making a whole new map for a relatively small chunk of gameplay, although I suppose that's not an insurmountable obstacle: Make it a small area blocked off by collapsed buildings, something like that. The more obvious issue, though, is that "what if the player foraged through the blast zone of a nuclear terrorist attack" is way too dark of a setpiece idea for a kid's game.
they can randomly have Zygarde be mad and change a lot of the city, by just randomly adding sand or snow and the weather effect to it, with no other changes.
 
Presumably the species is extinct in the wild and only survives in not publicly accessible breeding programs run by the descendants of the clans who used to care for the Nobles.
If it existed then it would be in the Dex. The Dex has Legendary Pokemon.

By the way, you say this for the dog but I mean this for literally any of them. There would be a public interest in a lot of these especially when most of them are cute or useful. That alone means that this really shouldn't be a problem.

Given there are no Mandibuzz in Hisui I'm pretty sure Hisuian Braviary was already on the decline long before the settlers arrived.
This doesn't make any sense.

What you're trying to imply here is that Braviary needs Mandibuzz as a mating partner, but that isn't supported by the game or the Dex. It can't breed with Mandibuzz in any game.

The iron content of the swamp was massively reduced, as was the size. Hence why the swamp went from yellow and red to green and dark brown in the modern day. Likely due to the fact that the Teddiursa and Hippopotas lines are no longer present in the area stirring up the sediment with their digging.
This doesn't make any sense because a reduction doesn't necessarily mean extinction.

So much as the implication here is reflective of the real world, you must also realize that Pokemon vs Animals has a distinct difference: For every one Pokemon there is hundreds if not thousands of different species of animal.

When we're talking about say, Basculin, that is the only Bass Pokemon around. When you say that Basculin went extinct in the region, you're essentially saying Bass As a Concept went extinct in this region. Extending this to Goodra, you're basically implying that the entirety of this Pokemon concept is unviable. No adaptation, or even regression back to regular Goodra, just entirely gone and extinct?

A reduction in habitat doesn't even mean extinction necessarily for a lot of species in the real world, even ignoring conservation efforts. If it means extinction it's often some variants of an overall type of animal. I can buy that some Goodra would die out, but not that they would literally all be gone especially when in modern Sinnoh the Safari Zone is literally Goodra's habitat.

The second the Safari Zone in a swamp is created, Goodra Hisui would be a part of conservation efforts, far more likely than a lot of these other Pokemon.

Hisuian Sneasel was likely just out-competed by regular Sneasel and the Meditite line. Especially as warming temperatures wiped out the Bergmite line in the area and greatly reduced the presence of the Swinub line.
Hisuian Sneasel and Sneasel literally aren't actually that similar from this perspective. Hisuian Sneasel is a survivor of mountain regions while Sneasel itself is more a generalist in winter biomes.

The only Sneasel we see in the game is in a Winter biome, yes, but that doesn't actually mean that'd be how it changes especially as, as you later argue, the climate warms up. For all we know the Alabaster area is fairly mild at different times of year. I don't buy this argument essentially.

Bergmite, maybe? But there's stiill plenty of cold areas. You say "in the area", but again, we are talking about the entirety of the region. In my argument, if it's not in the Dex it is considered scientifically not within the region.

Bergmite does not exist in modern Sinnoh. It's not "in the area", it's gone. Why would Swinub necessarily drive it out? "Greatly reduced" is, again, passive language for it is literally non-existent in the region.

Petilil was likely just out-competed by Oddish, the two lines' ranges never overlap. Plus the retreating snowfields would have made evolution to Hisuian Lilligant much harder and less necessary.
Okay I'm gonna point something out, you say this shit like the first region in this series doesn't have like 500 Pokemon that are the exact same.

Why didn't Vulpix or Growlithe out-compete each other? Why not Bellsprout versus Oddish? Why's Caterpie and Weedle still here? Just because there are two semi-similar species, which for the record Petilil and Oddish are significantly less similar than many other examples (including ones in Sinnoh), that doesn't mean one will drive the other to extinction.

Also, again, pointing out that "the evolution would be less necessary" - Petilil is not in Sinnoh. At all. It's either entirely gone or it's a retcon. That one evolution path cannot just be unnecessary because there is no Lilligant, no Petilil.

Stantler doesn't learn Psyshield Bash via level anymore in the modern day, only via egg, implying that the Wyrdeer situation is the same as Mamoswine's but worse. Remember, even back in Hisui times the only wild Wyrdeer was the Noble.
For one, Stantler isn't in modern Sinnoh anyways so it's just gone in general, for two I think this is generally a fine argument. Though it's entirely dumb game mechanics.

Edit: Also I forgot again, but to reiterate "I do not believe these scientists can make a Link Cable to go to alternativeuniverses but can't find a Fucking Bear." Again, the Dex implies that (in Johto I suppose) the scientists literally don't know about Wyrdeer, which I think is preposterous.

I like your post but I don't agree with your arguments.
 
Phantom of the Opera-Duskull family Regional Variant? (BONUS: Duskull family were not part of the Kalos Dex, Friend Safari are non-canon)
I was actually referring to the time that a group built a secret movie theater in the Paris Catacombs, but you're right, I'm surprised we haven't seen anything PatO-themed before.
:pikuh:... So I don't really watch a lot of TV, if you're going to post a character from a television series that you'll only know if you watch that TV series, I and whoever didn't watch that TV series is not going to know them.
The key is Violent Criminal+Silly Accessory+Job Title that makes it clear he is absolutely NOT a criminal. It's combining a few common tropes/storytelling elements/jokes:
Obvious criminal muscle
Paper-thin coverup of his criminal nature, with the joke being how poor the coverup is because no one wants to say anything
Silly appearance, the joke is of course that the big bruiser wears something cute or whatever(which also humanizes him), but it's justified in-universe as no one being willing to tell the debt collector for the mafia that his Xmas socks in July are weird.

Maybe they'll swerve us and the CEO will be a good person and her secretary just happens to be a muscular 6'6" Italian in a suit who wears work gloves everywhere. But since all of those seem like odd character elements to give a secretary, I'm expecting Vinnie to use a whole team of Fighting/Dark types to try to put the player character at the bottom of a canal.
 
Probably the funniest observation/guess I’ve seen is that Vinnie might be the in for Mega Rayquaza. The beard…

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oh. oh fuck

Ok so uh. Remember when Armarouge and Ceruledge first got revealed and people were convinced for months that they were designed by Hitoshi Ariga cuz "haha he's the Mega Man guy". Well while that guess ended up being wrong but they were definitely right on that count. Game Freak does, in fact, have a prolific Mega Man artist on retainer and have done so since at least... huh, would you look at that, XY, funny how that works.

I don't know who's doing staff allocation for Legends Z-A or contracting the artists or whatever, but whoever they are, please listen carefully. You get one (1) chance to have Hitoshi Ariga make an Expansion Suit Mk. II. I've already been blessed and don't feel like I should be asking for any more, but... c'mon. Don't let the opportunity slip by. Please.
 
The key is Violent Criminal+Silly Accessory+Job Title that makes it clear he is absolutely NOT a criminal. It's combining a few common tropes/storytelling elements/jokes

No, I get that, just that I don't know who the character you posted was, kind of makes the points fall flat since I don't know the character is supposed to be that.

I'm expecting Vinnie to use a whole team of Fighting/Dark types

*Sees picture below with the Pancham and Buneary buns*

... Vinnie uses a Mega Lopunny, doesn't he?
 
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