NOC Town of Salem 2 Mafia: Revival - WON BY THE MAFIA AND THE WITCH

Evie said:
Is there a scenario where the Hypnotist doesn’t use their power n1? perhaps if they don’t want to reveal that there’s a Hypnotist?
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there is I acc thought of that and was about to doublepost it before Alice made me laugh

there's def a universe where hypnotist idles to give a scumbud a free use of "oh yeah this happened to me" to spread more confusion or try and bail them out of a bad situation (e.g. having a plausible deniability roleblocker target claim)

the fact that it was never utilised is probably evidence that they didn't do that, but we also didn't exactly massclaim so maybe it wasn't necessary

I'd anticipate they would've used that free us when claiming to Hydro though, and Hydro will call out any claim inconsistencies between DMs and whisper I hope
 
Celever said:
as a reminder:

  • You were attacked but someone nursed you back to health! (Doctor)
  • A trap attacked you but someone nursed you back to health! (Trapper)
  • You were attacked but someone protected you! (Crusader)
  • An intimidating figure stopped you at your target's door. You were scared away! (Bouncer, Scarecrow)
  • You were transported to another location. (Transporter)
  • Someone occupied your night. You were role blocked! (Escort, Consort)
  • You felt a mystical power dominating you. You were controlled by a Witch! (Witch)
  • You were attacked but someone fought off your attacker! (Bodyguard)

These are the possible hypnotist messages

I think if you received any of these messages you should just tell us. we're down a witch message too, knowing that there was a witch N1 helps legitimate jalmont too

sidenote bodyguard is such noob bait because that's just outing that there's a hypnotist in the setup, unless the bodyguard also happens to die that night by direct nk lmao
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oh in the spirit of this, I was transported last night

when I told Hydro he went "uh that's weird no one else claimed that", bc I was the last person to claim to him (bc I'm cool) so whoever I was transported with should've also claimed it by then

but also ??? that's weird bc it implies a transporter also didn't claim they transported me, or didn't claim action usage, by that point
 
Celever said:
oh in the spirit of this, I was transported last night

when I told Hydro he went "uh that's weird no one else claimed that", bc I was the last person to claim to him (bc I'm cool) so whoever I was transported with should've also claimed it by then

but also ??? that's weird bc it implies a transporter also didn't claim they transported me, or didn't claim action usage, by that point
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could this be the hypnotist maybe?
 
Evie said:
could this be the hypnotist maybe?
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perhaps, yeah

but it would mean that we have a presumably scarecrow

and it would actually probably mean that Aura Guardian is the scarecrow because he's not fighting the allegations

in fairness, if that is the case I don't see much point in killing AG. Because like, the scarecrow isn't really a threat to us lol. we have to kill it at some point but for now it's not harming us
 
Alice Kazumi said:
I think the most probable way we lose is by what we are doing right now of centralizing the actions around a person and that person turns out to not be town. Hydro doesn't strike me as the authoritative type and I'm not the only one that has noticed that he is being authoritative. Not that this makes him automatically mafia as people change under different circumstances but it's enough to scare me.
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I think the problem here is that you yourself claimed hydro had to be in a pool of roles that includes zero third party roles, and was the nightkill target, making him basically confirmed town regardless of how he acts.
 
Celever said:
perhaps, yeah

but it would mean that we have a presumably scarecrow

and it would actually probably mean that Aura Guardian is the scarecrow because he's not fighting the allegations

in fairness, if that is the case I don't see much point in killing AG. Because like, the scarecrow isn't really a threat to us lol. we have to kill it at some point but for now it's not harming us
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is it possible to have a witch and a scarecrow or double hypnotists because we also have to factor in jalmont's witch target claim on top of yours here
 
Celever said:
perhaps, yeah

but it would mean that we have a presumably scarecrow

and it would actually probably mean that Aura Guardian is the scarecrow because he's not fighting the allegations

in fairness, if that is the case I don't see much point in killing AG. Because like, the scarecrow isn't really a threat to us lol. we have to kill it at some point but for now it's not harming us
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Can you expand on why it would mean we have a scarecrow? Is it to do with Miyami's claim of how they got scarecrowed/bouncered
 
Evie said:
Can you expand on why it would mean we have a scarecrow? Is it to do with Miyami's claim of how they got scarecrowed/bouncered
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yeah, if someone else had claimed bouncer or scarecrow I can only assume Hydro would mention it in his case

that's the assumption I'm operating from anyway

otherwise we're doubling up on hypnotists

I think the likelier outcome is that people just claimed badly fwiw, I probably was actually transported instead of hypnotised

Miyami~~~ said:
is it possible to have a witch and a scarecrow or double hypnotists because we also have to factor in jalmont's witch target claim on top of yours here
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and actually true yeah I keep forgetting setup 4 is elimmed by the janitor so we can't have both
 
Evie said:
would a scarecrow claim to hydro?

yeah i wouldn't put it past des
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well correct, they probably wouldn't, I was spitballing lol

I think scarecrow would only ever claim lookout or bouncer though, but I think we're probably in setup 3 and therefore don't have a scarecrow anyway so it's a moot point :P
 
also like, it kinda just dawned on me again that we blocked a nightkill (probably, unless it hit an indie which is also relevant) so having transporters claim their actions and at least DBD his result feels useful

the claims were so useful yesterday it's weird to just not have them today
 
Celever said:
also like, it kinda just dawned on me again that we blocked a nightkill (probably, unless it hit an indie which is also relevant) so having transporters claim their actions and at least DBD his result feels useful

the claims were so useful yesterday it's weird to just not have them today
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are u talking to all the transporters?
 
I actually don't think hypnotist/hypnotist/janitor is mechanically possible on any setup either for what it's worth

if we're setup 3 and assuming three transporters + the knot all being town it looks like the following

Town Investigative (All of DBD, Alice, and HyHy have claimed a role that counts as this)
Town Investigative (See above)
Town Protective (was probably Roxie, may he rest in peace)
Town Support (this would have to be one of the transporters)
Transporter
Town Killing (as of yet unknown)
Random Town
Random Town
Random Town

Mafia Killing (as of yet unknown)
Mafia Deception (confirmed janitor)
Mafia Deception (probably hypnotist)
Mafia Support (as of yet unknown)

Serial Killer (a fairy)
Witch (unknown)

The three random town spots would have to be a transporter, one of DBD/Alice/HyHy, and then one filler in order for this all to be true, which would rule out AG being a bouncer at all to me because I know what my role is

*vote: Aura Guardian

if we've ruled out scarecrow and I know he can't be bouncer he has to be a hypnotist, right?
 
AirC said:
Nah I've been here for a while, not today tho :')
I've talked with HyHy in whispers but apart from that I've got nothing of value to add or reveal
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Do you have any theories on who else may not be town besides Aura Guardian, if you think he isn't town?

(side note: I'm really not a fan of this whisper mechanic, is it a normal part of mafia here?)
 
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