NOC Town of Salem 2 Mafia: Revival - WON BY THE MAFIA AND THE WITCH

if you say it's because Miyami is psychic claiming you out when you previously came up with a theory that me and Lechen both claimed TK so that when one of us got voted out the other would be considered town when actually a witch controlled Roxie which we wouldn't have known and we also janitored Roxie and Roxie happened to be an archer

I don't know what to say lol
 
Celever said:
that's highly on the table why would it not be on the table
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Okay maybe my perspective slipped in lol

You would essentially just put me/Miyami in the RT pools then from the objective POV (somebody will fill the ti slot but could be me/Miyami/Alice/dbd)
 
I know that Miyami is scum because I know I'm innocent so to me it feels like we're 50/50 but I see your point that objectively we are not
 
Celever said:
if you say it's because Miyami is psychic claiming you out when you previously came up with a theory that me and Lechen both claimed TK so that when one of us got voted out the other would be considered town when actually a witch controlled Roxie which we wouldn't have known and we also janitored Roxie and Roxie happened to be an archer

I don't know what to say lol
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First time? :puff:
 
Celever said:
a theory that me and Lechen both claimed TK so that when one of us got voted out the other would be considered town when actually a witch controlled Roxie which we wouldn't have known and we also janitored Roxie and Roxie happened to be an archer

I don't know what to say lol
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This is not as far fetched as you were making it seem, obviously I'm not saying you orchestrated n1 to do that but once Roxie was dead and the Janitor knew their role it'd be a pretty damn good mafia plot
 
joey said:
This is not as far fetched as you were making it seem, obviously I'm not saying you orchestrated n1 to do that but once Roxie was dead and the Janitor knew their role it'd be a pretty damn good mafia plot
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you already relented that it's a fair worse mafia plot than only one of us claiming town killing lol

it's actually a really, really bad mafia plot
 
I am not sure what you mean about DBD, he can be Lookout or Recon but I don't see how he's tied into me/Miyami beyond also being a TI claim
 
joey said:
I am not sure what you mean about DBD, he can be Lookout or Recon but I don't see how he's tied into me/Miyami beyond also being a TI claim
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right, he's also a TI claim which means you and Miyami are vying for the RT slot because DBD was targeted with the nk and so takes absolute priority for the TI slot
 
obviously we have to solve for the roles we're confirmed to have first and then solve among the RT later

if you count DBD who is somewhere between pro and conftown as RT instead of the TI slot he actually fills, it corrupts the solving we're all doing drastically
 
like in the relatively and bizarrely likely universe in which joey and Miyami are both scum, putting them as a 50/50 and putting DBD in the RT slot increases town's likelihood for a misvote drastically if we actually work off of his assessments because a prob-conftown is there alongside another member of the town

it's really, really bad solving and joey has played however many hours of Town of Salem to know better
 
non game related question, is "lynch" not as racially charged a term in europe as it is in NA?
Celever said:
right, he's also a TI claim which means you and Miyami are vying for the RT slot because DBD was targeted with the nk and so takes absolute priority for the TI slot
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I must've missed something, how do we know dbd was targeted?
 
and that's great for my prior solving tbf because it means Alice is town and the scumteam is joey / Lechen / Miyami, Lechen is the lookout backing up joey's information, and then Jalmont is the witch

this makes sense to me nice nice
 
Miyami~~~ said:
non game related question, is "lynch" not as racially charged a term in europe as it is in NA?
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there's no racial connotation in Europe, and it is the default term for the game of mafia

we don't police its use on this site for that reason. it's been phased out of mafia as a whole in recent years across the internet, but a lot of us are longterm mafia players who muscle memory the term. I'm not sure if it was me that just used it and triggered the question (sorry if so) because I actually do try to use vote instead, but even after a couple years of it being less desired as usage in mafia it is the term that comes to mind due to so long using it before then
 
Here are my scenarios rephrased, I don't think it makes as much of a difference as you are saying but you were right that It was not fully based in concrete facts before

TI - Hydro (Invest)
TI -
TP - AirC (Trapper)
TK - Celever or Lechen (Vet/Archer)
TS - Des (trans)
Trans - Ecat (trans)
RT - Roxie (Doctor or anything else that can visit)
RT - Evie (trans)
RT -


DBD (Lookout/Recon)
Alice (Invest/Consig)
Celever or Lechen (TK or any evil)
JALMONT (TP or any evil)
joey (tracker/recon) or Miyami (Psychic or any evil)


There are 2 RT and 1 TI among Celever/Lechen, DBD, Alice, JALMONT, joey, Miyami

One of DBD, Alice, joey, Miyami, or Roxie is a real TI



TI - Hydro (Invest)
TI -
TP - AirC (Trapper)
TK - Roxie (Archer)
TS - Des (Trans)
Trans - Ecat (Trans)
RT - Evie (Trans)
RT -
RT -

DBD (Lookout/Recon)
joey (tracker/recon) or Miyami (Psychic or any evil)
Alice (Invest/Consig)
Celever (Veteran or any evil)
Lechen (Archer or any evil)
JALMONT (Doc or any evil)


There are 2 RT and 1 TI among DBD, Alice, Celever, Lechen, JALMONT, joey, Miyami

1 of DBD, Alice, joey, Miyami is a real TI



TI - Hydro (Invest)
TI -
TP - AirC (Trapper)
TK - Celever or Lechen (TK)
TS - Des (Trans)
Trans - Ecat (Trans)
RT - Evie (Trans)
RT -
RT -

Celever or Lechen (TK or any evil)
DBD (Lookout/Recon)
joey (tracker/recon) or Miyami (Psychic or any evil)
Alice (Invest/Consig)
JALMONT (Doctor or any evil)


There are 2 RT between Celever/Lechen, DBD, Alice, and JALMONT, joey, Miyami

1 of DBD, Alice, joey, Miyami is a real TI
 
joey said:
Here are my scenarios rephrased, I don't think it makes as much of a difference as you are saying but you were right that It was not fully based in concrete facts before

TI - Hydro (Invest)
TI -
TP - AirC (Trapper)
TK - Celever or Lechen (Vet/Archer)
TS - Des (trans)
Trans - Ecat (trans)
RT - Roxie (Doctor or anything else that can visit)
RT - Evie (trans)
RT -


DBD (Lookout/Recon)
Alice (Invest/Consig)
Celever or Lechen (TK or any evil)
JALMONT (TP or any evil)
joey (tracker/recon) or Miyami (Psychic or any evil)


There are 2 RT and 1 TI among Celever/Lechen, DBD, Alice, JALMONT, joey, Miyami

One of DBD, Alice, joey, Miyami, or Roxie is a real TI



TI - Hydro (Invest)
TI -
TP - AirC (Trapper)
TK - Roxie (Archer)
TS - Des (Trans)
Trans - Ecat (Trans)
RT - Evie (Trans)
RT -
RT -

DBD (Lookout/Recon)
joey (tracker/recon) or Miyami (Psychic or any evil)
Alice (Invest/Consig)
Celever (Veteran or any evil)
Lechen (Archer or any evil)
JALMONT (Doc or any evil)


There are 2 RT and 1 TI among DBD, Alice, Celever, Lechen, JALMONT, joey, Miyami

1 of DBD, Alice, joey, Miyami is a real TI



TI - Hydro (Invest)
TI -
TP - AirC (Trapper)
TK - Celever or Lechen (TK)
TS - Des (Trans)
Trans - Ecat (Trans)
RT - Evie (Trans)
RT -
RT -

Celever or Lechen (TK or any evil)
DBD (Lookout/Recon)
joey (tracker/recon) or Miyami (Psychic or any evil)
Alice (Invest/Consig)
JALMONT (Doctor or any evil)


There are 2 RT between Celever/Lechen, DBD, Alice, and JALMONT, joey, Miyami

1 of DBD, Alice, joey, Miyami is a real TI
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do you think mafia self-targeted with the kill :wo:
 
I don't think it's super likely, I do think DBD is town and I definitely wouldn't vote him today but I can't say for 100% sure he's innocent
 
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