• Check out the relaunch of our general collection, with classic designs and new ones by our very own Pissog!

SPOILERS! Legends ZA Data Dumps - Adding Info to OP

I need to see it in motion but this is an instant add to my team, holy shit. I demand an apology for the last decade of Barbaracle slander I have seen.

We haven't seen them all in motion or color yet, but overall I'm extremely happy with this batch of new Megas - the only big miss for me is Feraligatr, but even then I can at least respect what they're going for with the big Totodile thing. Everything else looks fantastic and I'm super excited to give them all a try
The funny thing about Barbaracle is that, as I believe has been mentioned a few times across this subforum, it's apparently one of the most popular Kalos mons in Japan. What for us is going insane with a Mega design on a weirdo goober is for them the equivalent of a hypothetical Mega Haxorus or Volcarona
 
Also supposedly Diancie is in the dex and can be caught normally, the other mythical are not. There’s also a skip cutscene button.
Honestly kind of thought Diancie would also just be lumped into Mega Dimensions, so that's cool.

I hope Volcanion gets a form change of some sort in the DLC

Actually, now that I think about it, do we know when any of the games after Sun & Moon take place? By all of my calculations X & Y take place in 2013 (at the same time as Black & White 2) and Sun & Moon takes place two years after those in 2015. If I’m not mistaken, all three of this game Sword & Shield, and Scarlet & Violet don’t have any confirmation of when exactly they might take place. Going strictly off of the fact that Rotom Phones exist, this game has to at least be at the same time as Sword & Shield, right?
There's no years given. In terms of inter-game continuity all we know is SWSH takes place after SM and SV takes place after SWSH (Sonia's history book is published)

Honestly both SWSH & SV felt like they were meant to be vaguely contemporary with our world, but they probably purposely don't align with an actual year system so they can be more flexible with characters and the world.
 
The funny thing about Barbaracle is that, as I believe has been mentioned a few times across this subforum, it's apparently one of the most popular Kalos mons in Japan. What for us is going insane with a Mega design on a weirdo goober is for them the equivalent of a hypothetical Mega Haxorus or Volcarona
In before we get Mega Volcarona in the DLC and it just becomes the freaking sun (they proceed to make it a physical attacker for some reason)
 

Funny enough I think I actually like Mega Starmie more than Mega Feraligatr here

Oh the reason it has baggy pants is because its meant to sell like it's someone in a cheap starmie costume.
I guess a knock off ultraman kind of works, even if those are known for very skin tight suits....

I really do think it could be some kind of reference to the aliens in the 1956 tokusatsu movie Warning from Space

IMG_2088.jpeg
 
Looks like The Pokemon Company has a fetish for making Meganium bad given Mega Meganium will likely remain shitty given its special movepool is dire. Given its stats, Mega Meganium will be among the worst, if not the outright worst Mega.
 
Wait wait... unless I did my math wrong, Mega Zygarde's BST is 778.

Which is really weird and random, only an increase of 70. Which also puts it RIGHT under Mega Rayquaza and Mega Mewtwo.

If that's true, they could have just left its attack at 100 or its defense.
 
Looks like The Pokemon Company has a fetish for making Meganium bad given Mega Meganium will likely remain shitty given its special movepool is dire. Given its stats, Mega Meganium will be among the worst, if not the outright worst Mega.
The base case scenario I can see is chlorophyl but even then that still makes it ass.

Personally I'm very disappointed in malamar, those stats just look shit.
 
So these stats are definitely off from normal for some of these guys.
Stats:
  • Mega Meganium: +10, +15, +60, +15, +0 [+100]
  • Mega Emboar: +25, +10, +10, +65, +10 [+120]
  • Mega Feraligatr: +55, +25, +10, +10, +0 [+100]
  • Mega Skarmory: +60, -30, +0, +30, +40 [+100]
  • Mega Froslass: +0, +0, +60, +30, +10 [+100]
  • Mega Clefable: +10, +20, +40, +20, +10 [+100]
  • Mega Victreebel: +20, +20, +35, +25, +0 [+100]
  • Mega Starmie: +65, +20, +30, +20, +5 [+140]
  • Mega Dragonite: -10, +20, +45, +25, +20 [+100]
  • Mega Excadrill: +30, +40, +15, +0, +15 [+100]
  • Mega Scolipede: +40, +60, +20, +30, -50 [+100]
  • Mega Scrafty: +40, +20, +10, +20, +10 [+100]
  • Mega Eelektross: +30, +0, +30, +10, +30 [+100]
  • Mega Chandelure: +20, +20, +30, +20, +10 [+100]
  • Mega Chesnaut: +30, +50, +0, +40, -20 [+100]
  • Mega Delphox: +0, +0, +45, +25, +30 [+100]
  • Mega Greninja: +30, +10, +30, +10, +20 [+100]
  • Mega Pyroar: +20, +20, +20, +20, +20 [+100]
  • Mega Malamar: +10, +0, +30, +45, +15 [+100]
  • Mega Barbaracle: +35, +15, +10, +20, +20 [+100]
  • Mega Dragalge: +10, +15, +35, +40, +0 [+100]
  • Mega Hawlucha: +45, +25, +0, +30, +0 [+100]
  • Mega Drampa: +25, +25, +25, +25, +0 [+100]
  • Mega Falinks: +35, +35, +0, +5, +25 [+100]
  • Mega Eternal Floette: +20, +20, +30, +20, +10 [+100]
  • Mega Zygarde Complete: -30, -30, +125, -10, +15 [+70]
Emboar and Starmie have above 100 boosts and Mega Zygarde appears to have too much taken from its other stats.

Base Emboar and Starmie got stat boosts maybe?
 
Actually, now that I think about it, do we know when any of the games after Sun & Moon take place? By all of my calculations X & Y take place in 2013 (at the same time as Black & White 2) and Sun & Moon takes place two years after those in 2015. If I’m not mistaken, all three of this game Sword & Shield, and Scarlet & Violet don’t have any confirmation of when exactly they might take place. Going strictly off of the fact that Rotom Phones exist, this game has to at least be at the same time as Sword & Shield, right?

I was being a little jokey when I said this on the other page because I don’t think GF really care about the timeline to this extent, but you can sort of look at the design of Rotom Phones in particular as a sign of chronological progression. SwSh’s Rotom Phone had one camera lens, SV’s had two, and Z-A’s has three.

Other than that though, it’s like R_N said; there’s not really any concrete number of years between Gens 7-9. Silvally is called “Silvally” in SwSh so it has to be sometime after SM (since Gladion coined that name), and SV has Sonia’s book from SwSh somewhere in the school library.

Frankly though, even then gaps between BW, XY, and SM are somewhat tenuous, considering their sources. The idea that B2W2 (which are explicitly two years after BW) take place at the same time as XY comes solely from a long-since deleted tweet from a story writer at GF, so it’s not exactly what I’d call firmly established canon. Similarly, the idea that SM is two years after B2W2/XY is an inference based on Grimsley’s settei for SM, which had a note saying “Grimsley (2 years later)”. We assume that means two years since B2W2 since we want there to be a logical timeline progression, but since Grimsley’s design didn’t change at all between BW and B2W2, for all we know the artist might have meant he’s aged up two years relative to his previous design (which would have been for BW, not B2W2).

Honestly both SWSH & SV felt like they were meant to be vaguely contemporary with our world, but they probably purposely don't align with an actual year system so they can be more flexible with characters and the world.

Indeed, Masuda said something related to this in an interview around the time of LGPE:

“It starts to get a little complicated if you pay too much attention to timelines. Like, there might be a professor that appears and it wouldn’t make sense at all if we applied that kind of timeline logic. So we try not to apply it too rigorously. Maybe one hint is that if a character is appearing with Professor Oak, they’re living in the same era. Rather than some series where it makes sense to have the timeline progress as you go and the story evolve, the approach that Pokémon takes is expanding the world, like what the regions are, and making it richer as we go. Rather than a timeline, it’s more of a physical space thing.”

Obviously their approach isn’t as simple as just flattening everything to “it’s at the same time” because they do need to account for new Pokémon and technologies that appear (and probably want to be able to reference previous games), but, like you said, not nailing things down too tight gives them more flexibility.
 
So these stats are definitely off from normal for some of these guys.
Stats:
  • Mega Meganium: +10, +15, +60, +15, +0 [+100]
  • Mega Emboar: +25, +10, +10, +65, +10 [+120]
  • Mega Feraligatr: +55, +25, +10, +10, +0 [+100]
  • Mega Skarmory: +60, -30, +0, +30, +40 [+100]
  • Mega Froslass: +0, +0, +60, +30, +10 [+100]
  • Mega Clefable: +10, +20, +40, +20, +10 [+100]
  • Mega Victreebel: +20, +20, +35, +25, +0 [+100]
  • Mega Starmie: +65, +20, +30, +20, +5 [+140]
  • Mega Dragonite: -10, +20, +45, +25, +20 [+100]
  • Mega Excadrill: +30, +40, +15, +0, +15 [+100]
  • Mega Scolipede: +40, +60, +20, +30, -50 [+100]
  • Mega Scrafty: +40, +20, +10, +20, +10 [+100]
  • Mega Eelektross: +30, +0, +30, +10, +30 [+100]
  • Mega Chandelure: +20, +20, +30, +20, +10 [+100]
  • Mega Chesnaut: +30, +50, +0, +40, -20 [+100]
  • Mega Delphox: +0, +0, +45, +25, +30 [+100]
  • Mega Greninja: +30, +10, +30, +10, +20 [+100]
  • Mega Pyroar: +20, +20, +20, +20, +20 [+100]
  • Mega Malamar: +10, +0, +30, +45, +15 [+100]
  • Mega Barbaracle: +35, +15, +10, +20, +20 [+100]
  • Mega Dragalge: +10, +15, +35, +40, +0 [+100]
  • Mega Hawlucha: +45, +25, +0, +30, +0 [+100]
  • Mega Drampa: +25, +25, +25, +25, +0 [+100]
  • Mega Falinks: +35, +35, +0, +5, +25 [+100]
  • Mega Eternal Floette: +20, +20, +30, +20, +10 [+100]
  • Mega Zygarde Complete: -30, -30, +125, -10, +15 [+70]
Emboar and Starmie have above 100 boosts and Mega Zygarde appears to have too much taken from its other stats.

Base Emboar and Starmie got stat boosts maybe?
You're a bit off on Emboar, it's a +45 not a +65
 
Back
Top