It can't? D:
I thought I did it on Shoddy. Oh, well. That's probably just the text being read oddly. Thanks.
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For the Mawile set, the first one seems the only useable one to me. :/
It's a pity all the moves are unreliable.
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It can't? D:
I thought I did it on Shoddy. Oh, well. That's probably just the text being read oddly. Thanks.
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For the Mawile set, the first one seems the only useable one to me. :/
It's a pity all the moves are unreliable.
Ok, thanks. So this Mawil is a keeper.
EDIT: yeah, it were some suggestions. If you know something better, let me know ;)
Not really. Mawile should be used for physical attacking, and not special attacking. Because wih Life Orb and Fake Tears you have already taken a lot of damage. factor in the low speed...I think Mawile has better things to do.
Doesnt Mawile get Swords Dance, Brick Break, Iron Head, Crunch, Ice Punch, Thunderpunch, and Fire Punch? That is gonna be your best bet.
Doesnt Mawile get Swords Dance, Brick Break, Iron Head, Crunch, Ice Punch, Thunderpunch, and Fire Punch? That is gonna be your best bet.
Tyranitar @ Leftovers
Nature: Adamant
Ability: Sandstream
252 HP / 76 Atk / 180 Spe
- Substitute
- Dragon Dance
- Crunch
- Earthquake / Stone Edge
After talking to zerowing about an old ADV DDTar set he used to run, I decided to make a set fit for our metagame. HP is maxed out to provide extremely bulky Substitutes, along with hitting 101 HP to take a Seismic Toss; more importantly, Substitute is the best status blocker in the game, since a burned/paralyzed Tyranitar is a sad Tyranitar. The Speed allows you to outpace neutral natured Garchomp. The rest can be dumped into attack.
I highly suggest you pair this up with Magnezone in order to eliminate Skarmory as a threat. I've been running a HP Grass Magnezone since if Swampert has any ideas of switching in, it'll soon regret it, paving the way for an even easier sweep with Tyranitar.
Not sure if this set is really all that "new" or "creative", but goddamn is it effective.
Baton Passer
Ninjask @ Focus Sash
Ability: Speed Boost
EVs: 176 HP / 252 Atk / 80 Spd
Nature: Jolly (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Protect
- X-Scissor
- Baton Pass
- Swords Dance
Protect in the first turn to get a Speed Boost in. Swords Dance in the next turn to boost attack while Focus Sash ensures Ninjask's survival. One more Protect in the third turn to get another Speed Boost in and Baton Pass the boosts to Rampardos. X-Scissor is there in the event that Ninjask needs to attack.
Physical Sweeper
Rampardos @ Muscle Band
Ability: Mold Breaker
EVs: 56 HP / 252 Atk / 60 Def / 140 SpD
Nature: Adamant (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Crunch
- Pursuit
- Earthquake
- Stone Edge
With 3 Speed Boosts and 1 Swords Dance in, Rampardos becomes nearly impossible to stop. The 3 Speed Boosts compensate for the lack of Speed EVs or Jolly (+Spd, -SAtk) nature by setting its speed at 380 which is enough to outspeed anything without a Choice Scarf. Maximum attack plus Swords Dance gives Rampardos an overkill attack stat. Muscle Band adds to that incredible power with Life Orb not being used due to the recoil or Leftovers for its lack of importance when sweeping. The 56 HP / 60 Def / 140 SpD EV spread provides Rampardos with the best defenses possible with the remaining EVs. Having optimum defenses allows Rampardos to survive on the Baton Pass switch and quite possibly some priority moves by its foes.
EDIT: I'm not really sure if this was the right place to post this since I couldn't find a more suitable place to do so and I apologize in advance if it should've been posted elsewhere. However, just for the sake of staying on-topic, the Rampardos EV spread is fairly original.
Ninjask @ Focus Sash
Ability: Speed Boost
EVs: 176 HP / 252 Atk / 80 Spd
Nature: Jolly (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Protect
- X-Scissor
- Baton Pass
- Swords Dance
Protect in the first turn to get a Speed Boost in. Swords Dance in the next turn to boost attack while Focus Sash ensures Ninjask's survival. One more Protect in the third turn to get another Speed Boost in and Baton Pass the boosts to Rampardos. X-Scissor is there in the event that Ninjask needs to attack.
Physical Sweeper
Rampardos @ Muscle Band
Ability: Mold Breaker
EVs: 56 HP / 252 Atk / 60 Def / 140 SpD
Nature: Adamant (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Crunch
- Pursuit
- Earthquake
- Stone Edge
With 3 Speed Boosts and 1 Swords Dance in, Rampardos becomes nearly impossible to stop. The 3 Speed Boosts compensate for the lack of Speed EVs or Jolly (+Spd, -SAtk) nature by setting its speed at 380 which is enough to outspeed anything without a Choice Scarf. Maximum attack plus Swords Dance gives Rampardos an overkill attack stat. Muscle Band adds to that incredible power with Life Orb not being used due to the recoil or Leftovers for its lack of importance when sweeping. The 56 HP / 60 Def / 140 SpD EV spread provides Rampardos with the best defenses possible with the remaining EVs. Having optimum defenses allows Rampardos to survive on the Baton Pass switch and quite possibly some priority moves by its foes.
EDIT: I'm not really sure if this was the right place to post this since I couldn't find a more suitable place to do so and I apologize in advance if it should've been posted elsewhere. However, just for the sake of staying on-topic, the Rampardos EV spread is fairly original.
No its dont need 100 power>75 power.
Just pointing out that Dragon/Fighting is resisted by one Pokemon, and that Pokemon would be Shedninja (not a huge problem). Lucario might be better off going with Fighting/Ghost for neutrality's sake as that is not resisted by anything. However, Dragon Pulse has its merits with that set. Finally, Dark/Fighting (if anyone would rather opt for Dark Pulse) is resisted by Heracross, Croagunk, and Toxicroak.
As for the set itself, I think it's a neat idea, although I'm sure this has been used for a while now. I second Metal Force's idea of using a Salac Berry over Leftovers as an alternative held item.
After +3 Spe and +2 Atk off of Rampardos attack, either one is going to kill what you want it to. Here, what you want to look at is accuracy. I would rather use a 90% accurate move off of 941 Atk than an 80% accurate move. In addition, Rock Slide has a nice flinch rate which works well with high speed.
Ok, I thought of this one when I was looking through the RS movesets:
Altaria @ Leftovers
Bold/Calm/Relaxed/Sassy/Modest nature
Draco Meteor
Flamethrower/Earthquake
Psych Up
Roost
Basically, Altaria is the only pokemon in the game to get a Draco Meteor type move, Psych Up, and the defenses to pull something like this off to any degree of success. Use Draco Meteor, then use Psych Up to get back to +0 special attack, allowing you to use it again. Use Flamethrower if you don't want the recharge time, and Roost if you took a lot of damage while using Psych Up. You can use Earthquake over Flamethrower, but you'll have to split your attacking EVs between both stats, making it weaker overall. Also, you will get walled by Skarmory and Bronzong as opposed to Heatran. Kind of like using Roar of Time, except you have the option of switching out or Roosting during the recharge time. I haven't tested this on shoddy yet, so I'm not sure of what the best nature or EV spread for this thing would be yet. What do you think?
Altaria @ Leftovers
Bold/Calm/Relaxed/Sassy/Modest nature
Draco Meteor
Flamethrower/Earthquake
Psych Up
Roost
Basically, Altaria is the only pokemon in the game to get a Draco Meteor type move, Psych Up, and the defenses to pull something like this off to any degree of success. Use Draco Meteor, then use Psych Up to get back to +0 special attack, allowing you to use it again. Use Flamethrower if you don't want the recharge time, and Roost if you took a lot of damage while using Psych Up. You can use Earthquake over Flamethrower, but you'll have to split your attacking EVs between both stats, making it weaker overall. Also, you will get walled by Skarmory and Bronzong as opposed to Heatran. Kind of like using Roar of Time, except you have the option of switching out or Roosting during the recharge time. I haven't tested this on shoddy yet, so I'm not sure of what the best nature or EV spread for this thing would be yet. What do you think?
Pulse- i used to run the exact same TTar. I told you about it a while ago on AIM when you were Xenaz, i guess you forgot or something. In any case, its probably one of todays better late game sweepers, id still be using it if i didnt fall in love with jibakus ttar set
Elite Life-Orb and Mix Tyranitar
Tyranitar (M) @ Life Orb
Ability: Sand Stream
EVs: 180 Atk/252 Spd/78 SAtk
Hasty nature (+Spd, -Def)
- Earthquake
- Crunch
- Ice Beam
- Flamethrower
This is the speedy Mix/LOTar (I'm going to be breeding this soon). This Tyranitar outspeeds most Metagross and all Gliscor. Tyranitar then destroys every wall that usually comes in on it. Bronzong being one of these is mostly 3HKO'd and sometimes 2HKO'd. The rest though are OHKO'd/2HKO'd (except Swampert who is like 4HKO'd). I recommend you do not keep this in on Swampert. On Swampert bring in something like Bronzong with Grass Knot.
Tyranitar (M) @ Life Orb
Ability: Sand Stream
EVs: 180 Atk/252 Spd/78 SAtk
Hasty nature (+Spd, -Def)
- Earthquake
- Crunch
- Ice Beam
- Flamethrower
This is the speedy Mix/LOTar (I'm going to be breeding this soon). This Tyranitar outspeeds most Metagross and all Gliscor. Tyranitar then destroys every wall that usually comes in on it. Bronzong being one of these is mostly 3HKO'd and sometimes 2HKO'd. The rest though are OHKO'd/2HKO'd (except Swampert who is like 4HKO'd). I recommend you do not keep this in on Swampert. On Swampert bring in something like Bronzong with Grass Knot.
I like this one quite a bit. It'd definitely need Modest nature though, because Altaria needs all the punch it can get with the mediocre base 70 sp. attack. It's actually doesn't seem that bad in OU, and it would bust up UU quite well. Good job, I hope its testing goes well.
Elite Life-Orb and Mix Tyranitar
Tyranitar (M) @ Life Orb
Ability: Sand Stream
EVs: 180 Atk/252 Spd/78 SAtk
Hasty nature (+Spd, -Def)
- Earthquake
- Crunch
- Ice Beam
- Flamethrower
This is the speedy Mix/LOTar (I'm going to be breeding this soon). This Tyranitar outspeeds most Metagross and all Gliscor. Tyranitar then destroys every wall that usually comes in on it. Bronzong being one of these is mostly 3HKO'd and sometimes 2HKO'd. The rest though are OHKO'd/2HKO'd (except Swampert who is like 4HKO'd). I recommend you do not keep this in on Swampert. On Swampert bring in something like Bronzong with Grass Knot.
The Speed is kind of a waste if the only thing you want to do is outspeed Metagross and Gliscor because a few Gliscor are EVed to outspeed Tyranitar. Although you can take a Earthquake and Ice Beam it there is a chance it might miss (Remember Sand Veil) and letting Gliscor hit you again with Earthquake to finish you off.
Although I have to say that Speed is pretty important for a sweeper but Tyranitar is kind of slow to me. I think the reason why for Dragon Dance Tyranitars are Jolly is because it can increase his mediocre speed.
Alright, cool. Maybe this weekend I'll use it on shoddy. I'll try it in UU and OU.
This is a really cool idea. I might even try it out with an Exeggutor or Tangrowth with Leaf Storm.
Well, actually it isn't just to increase his general speed. Its to allow him to outspeed Starmie, Gengar, Raikou and co. after a single DD.
why dont you use DD with a Naughty nature? With your EVs, Flamethrower never ohkos skarm unless i made a mistake, your going to need Fire Blast for that, also helps in 2hkoing Bronzong, LAstly, TTar needs the defense, Hippos only getting 2hkod by Ice Beam, and if it switches in on EQ/ Crunch and quakes, after your next LO recoil, your dead. Run Naive insteadElite Life-Orb and Mix Tyranitar
Tyranitar (M) @ Life Orb
Ability: Sand Stream
EVs: 180 Atk/252 Spd/78 SAtk
Hasty nature (+Spd, -Def)
- Earthquake
- Crunch
- Ice Beam
- Flamethrower
This is the speedy Mix/LOTar (I'm going to be breeding this soon). This Tyranitar outspeeds most Metagross and all Gliscor. Tyranitar then destroys every wall that usually comes in on it. Bronzong being one of these is mostly 3HKO'd and sometimes 2HKO'd. The rest though are OHKO'd/2HKO'd (except Swampert who is like 4HKO'd). I recommend you do not keep this in on Swampert. On Swampert bring in something like Bronzong with Grass Knot.
Umm, the first time I ever heard about this Tyranitar was from zerowing, not you. You must be thinking of someone else.. :X
eh, we were having a conversation on AIM awhile ago when you were Xenaz. You were talking about your new TTar and i said i used a SubDDTar at the time. You didnt really inquire into it, but you did ask for the nature, i said Adamant and you said you found Jolly useful to outspeed Azelf after a DD. Didnt really talk about it much, but i know it did come up
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Lucario@ Life Orb
Naive, 200 speed 130 sp atk 180 atk
Agility
Close Combat
Dark Pulse
Dragon Pulse
200 Speed puts it at 292 speed, outrunning a variety of threats, this allows it to OKHO pokemon that would OKHO it after it uses agility. Fighting, Dark and Dragon cover everything.
With 180 Evs into atk, the atk becames 301, with 130 EVs the sp atk becomes 298.
After an agility it's speed goes up to 584 which outruns everything except Choice Scarf, Deoxys -S with a whole lot of speed EVs.
Lucario@ Life Orb
Naive, 200 speed 130 sp atk 180 atk
Agility
Close Combat
Dark Pulse
Dragon Pulse
200 Speed puts it at 292 speed, outrunning a variety of threats, this allows it to OKHO pokemon that would OKHO it after it uses agility. Fighting, Dark and Dragon cover everything.
With 180 Evs into atk, the atk becames 301, with 130 EVs the sp atk becomes 298.
After an agility it's speed goes up to 584 which outruns everything except Choice Scarf, Deoxys -S with a whole lot of speed EVs.
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