Lucario's Favorite Team! (RMT)

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I have decided to base a team on my favorite pokemon, lucario, in helping him set up for a sweep, so, here it is:

Lucario's Favorite Team

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Yanmega (F) @ Focus Sash
Speed Boost - Modest Nature
EVs: 6 HP/ 252 Sp. Atk/ 252 Spd

Hypnosis
Bug Buzz
Air Slash
HP Ice

A lead Yanmega with a twist, focus sash acts as my protect, allowing me to Hypnosis or attack on the first turn. Sense I don't need protect anymore, I put on HP Ice and it helps a lot! People just don't expect it, thinking of HP Ground to make her a decent Heatran counter as well.

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Vaporeon @ Leftovers
Water Absorb - Bold Nature
EVs: 188 HP/ 252 SpD/ 68 Spa

Surf
HP Electric
Wish
Protect

Supporting Vaporeon who doubles as my special wall (of sorts) HP Electric to hit Gyara, a problem for this team. Surf for STAB. Protect and wish for healing and scouting. An excellent Heatran counter, especially because it wrecks this team (and it gaining popularity after Garchomp's fall). Also is my special wall.
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Metagross @ Choice Band
Clear Body - Adamant Nature
EVs: 252 HP/ 244 Atk/ 12 Def

Meteor Mash
Earthquake
Explosion
Bullet Punch

Leaves dents in things. Big dents. Also revenge kills with Bullet Punch and can takes something with it at the end of its run with Explosion. Earthquake for coverage.

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Dusknoir @ Leftovers
Pressure - Impish Nature
EVs: 252 HP/ 252 Def/ 6 Sp. Def

Will-O-Wisp
Thunderpunch
Shadow Sneak
Pain Split

An excellent physical wall. Will-O-Wisp cripples sweepers, thunderpunch handles Gyara, Pain Split for recovery and Shadow Sneak to punish frail sweepers. Tanks. God. What else?

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Hariyama @ Leftovers
Guts - Impish Nature
EVs: 76 HP/ 180 Atk/ 252 Def

Knock Off
Force Palm
Stone Edge
Payback

An excellent pokemon to help Lucario's sweep. Payback deals with ghosts, stone edge with flying types and Force Palm causes Paralysis. Bulky, Knock Off deals with choice users and works excellently with Vaporeon backing it. Scouts the fighting counters (might switch Stone Edge to ice punch cause of Gliscor). Credit to Phoenix_21 for suggestion.

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Lucario @ Life Orb
Inner Focus - Adamant Nature
EVs: 6 HP/ 252 Atk/ 252 Spd

Swords Dance
Close Combat
Crunch
Extremespeed

Standard clean-up SD luke (nickname: Nuke Luke). Definetely one of my favorite pokemon and can down quite a bit of tough pokemon with an SD under its belt.


So, what do you think Smogon?
 
nice team. where did you get the pics? something I don't think I like is that if your lead get's put to sleep then a ground type(or anything with a ground type move) does insane damage. normaly it would look like you had a counter but both of the pokes you have that float are fragile, plus you blow one up and EQ is the most popular move in the game. Perhaps
putting Specs-mence on your team could help with Hydro-Pump and intimidate to lower the opponent's strength. I use heatran os a wall(though not a sleeptalker) so I'm not going to say to switch him. hope I help'd.
 
Um yeah LS is right, you might wanna trash heatran or metagross. Seeing that youre centering your sweepe around lucario it might be beneficial to pass a speed or attack increase. How about:

Ninjask @ Liechi Berry
Jolly
Speed Boost
EV's: 252Spe / 252Atk / 6Hp
~Swords Dance
~Baton Pass
~Substitue
~X-Scissor
or something of the sort. Substitue for getting you a speed boost and if you keep subbing youll go to liechi range(make sure HP is even) Try to get an additional SD to give a hell of a pass to lucario or ditch SD for Protect for more Speed Boosts.
Neat, huh?
 
I guess I'll rate your team

Yanmega wants and really needs protect. Protect allows you to scout and get a free speed boost. Well after reading your description you make it sound like Yanmega will always win against all starters. How about Gengar? It'll put you to sleep then proceed to 2HKO (sash) with T-Bolt.I've always liked Wide Lenses on Yanmega for the accuracy boost.

Azelf looks fine. Consider NP to give it a chance to sweep.

Metagross is ok. If I was you I would change it to

Metagross@Lum Berry
Ability: Clear Body
EV's: 240 HP / 80 Atk / 188 SpD
Adamant Nature(+Atk, -SpA)
- Pursuit
- Bullet Punch
- Meteor Mash/Earthquake
- Ice Punch/Explosion

^Aldaron. This gives you a safer switch in to Gengar.

Dusknoir is ok

Heatran and Lucario are also OK.

Now for the big changes...


In a team that is built around sweeping with a poke like Lucario you generally want SR Support. I can see a few SDLukes running through this team pretty fast since you don't have a counter to the beast at all.

So why not try a Gliscor over Dusknoir for SR support and it can counter SDLuke and Heracross with ease.

Azelf is NOT a Tyranitar counter. Swampert and Machamp are two very good Tyranitar counters. They can also counter that annoying Weavile that will easily run through this team. Wait NVM you have a Metagross.

Heatran loves you for this team. He can switch in to any of your pokes especially your Heatran and Dusknoir. So maybe Vaporeon to counter Gyarados, Heatran and Infernape. This also gives you a good way to get rid of Gliscor.

You could even try a RestTalk Gyarados which counters Lucario, Heracross, Heatran, Infernape(to an extent) and sometimes other Gyarados. but you lose your SR support.

Well hope I helped.:naughty:
 
Lightsabre said:
nice team. where did you get the pics? something I don't think I like is that if your lead get's put to sleep then a ground type(or anything with a ground type move) does insane damage. normaly it would look like you had a counter but both of the pokes you have that float are fragile, plus you blow one up and EQ is the most popular move in the game. Perhaps
putting Specs-mence on your team could help with Hydro-Pump and intimidate to lower the opponent's strength. I use heatran os a wall(though not a sleeptalker) so I'm not going to say to switch him. hope I help'd.
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Yeah, but although Dusknoir doesn't resist EQs, he eats them...

Thank you for your suggestions, but I already tried a specs mence and if I am going to get another choice user, it will be a scarfer

MetalGarX said:
Um yeah LS is right, you might wanna trash heatran or metagross. Seeing that youre centering your sweepe around lucario it might be beneficial to pass a speed or attack increase. How about:

Ninjask @ Liechi Berry
Jolly
Speed Boost
EV's: 252Spe / 252Atk / 6Hp
~Swords Dance
~Baton Pass
~Substitue
~X-Scissor
or something of the sort. Substitue for getting you a speed boost and if you keep subbing youll go to liechi range(make sure HP is even) Try to get an additional SD to give a hell of a pass to lucario or ditch SD for Protect for more Speed Boosts.
Neat, huh?
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I think I will end up trashing Heatran, especially sense it sorta exaggerates my ground weakness...

Unfortunately, that Ninjask definetely wouldn't help as both of the pokemon you are suggesting to take out are bulky or are wall-ish so Ninjask would be even less helpful

XxBurst LimitxX said:
I guess I'll rate your team

Yanmega wants and really needs protect. Protect allows you to scout and get a free speed boost. Well after reading your description you make it sound like Yanmega will always win against all starters. How about Gengar? It'll put you to sleep then proceed to 2HKO (sash) with T-Bolt.I've always liked Wide Lenses on Yanmega for the accuracy boost.

Azelf looks fine. Consider NP to give it a chance to sweep.

Metagross is ok. If I was you I would change it to

Metagross@Lum Berry
Ability: Clear Body
EV's: 240 HP / 80 Atk / 188 SpD
Adamant Nature(+Atk, -SpA)
- Pursuit
- Bullet Punch
- Meteor Mash/Earthquake
- Ice Punch/Explosion

^Aldaron. This gives you a safer switch in to Gengar.

Dusknoir is ok

Heatran and Lucario are also OK.

Now for the big changes...


In a team that is built around sweeping with a poke like Lucario you generally want SR Support. I can see a few SDLukes running through this team pretty fast since you don't have a counter to the beast at all.

So why not try a Gliscor over Dusknoir for SR support and it can counter SDLuke and Heracross with ease.

Azelf is NOT a Tyranitar counter. Swampert and Machamp are two very good Tyranitar counters. They can also counter that annoying Weavile that will easily run through this team. Wait NVM you have a Metagross.

Heatran loves you for this team. He can switch in to any of your pokes especially your Heatran and Dusknoir. So maybe Vaporeon to counter Gyarados, Heatran and Infernape. This also gives you a good way to get rid of Gliscor.

You could even try a RestTalk Gyarados which counters Lucario, Heracross, Heatran, Infernape(to an extent) and sometimes other Gyarados. but you lose your SR support.

Well hope I helped.:naughty:
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Wow, thank you...

This helps a ton, no joke

My Gengar counter is Dusknoir because Gengar rarely expects the shadow sneak which is a OHKO

If the pokemon in question is leading and faster than my Yanmega, if I expect the sleep then I go to Heatran to eat the status

I considered that metagross set, but although gengar is a problem, like I said he is handled by Dusknoir. Plus, the current set I run is capable of doing huge amounts of damage to anything in particular.

I like Dusknoir, I am keeping Dusknoir, Dusknoir stays.


So it seems like the two pokemon that seem like I should drop are Azelf and Heatran. And definitely one of these is going to be a ground resist, any suggestions?


Anyone think TrickZam with CS is good for this team?
 
My tyranitar counter (for most sets), hits hard and fast till I see something that Azelf doesn't like when I explode, helps luke by hopefully taking out a counter to him.
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Um? Azelf is TTar counter?!?!?!?!
OMG I guess Tyranitar lost Crunch and Stone Edge.

Azelf is NOT a Tyranitar counter.
 
XxBurst LimitxX said:
Metagross@Lum Berry
Ability: Clear Body
EV's: 240 HP / 80 Atk / 188 SpD
Adamant Nature(+Atk, -SpA)
- Pursuit
- Bullet Punch
- Meteor Mash/Earthquake
- Ice Punch/Explosion

^Aldaron. This gives you a safer switch in to Gengar.
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That metagross cannot counter gengar it revenge kills gengar
 
thechocolatebunny said:
dusknoir and heatran dont have equal (sp)D one is 106 the other is 135
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That wasn't my point, my point was was that there Sp. Def was equal to there Def, therefore making them useful for both sides of the spectrum

Leh Postman said:
Um? Azelf is TTar counter?!?!?!?!
OMG I guess Tyranitar lost Crunch and Stone Edge.

Azelf is NOT a Tyranitar counter.
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Grass Knot does about 75% damage to a T-Tar, making it an effective counter if it has lost health, but I guess I will change the T-Tar counter to Metagross then
 
LOL Azelf is nowhere near being a T-Tar counter. I really don't believe the 75% thing. A ChoiceSpecs Hydro Pump from Starmie does like 85%. That has STAB lol. +Metagross is destroyed by CB EQ.
 
Raquan95 said:
LOL Azelf is nowhere near being a T-Tar counter. I really don't believe the 75% thing. A ChoiceSpecs Hydro Pump from Starmie does like 85%. That has STAB lol. +Metagross is destroyed by CB EQ.
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It depends on the T-Tar...

Anyways, shut up or rate my team, not my comments
 
I really don't know what most of these people are talking about...

This is a good team. 3 EQ weaks, but 2 immunities and a massive wall. You don't need protect on Yanmega as most foes expect it, and try to stat up on you or you're just faster anyway.

I like HP Ground over Ice, otherwise Heatran and Magnezone wall you.

Heatran isn't really needed as none of your pokes are even weak to ice or grass. I do agree you need a Restalker. Perhaps a bulky water like Suicune? Taylored towards Special defense would be good, or simply Crocune. He would work greatly on this team.
 
GatitoNeku said:
That metagross cannot counter gengar it revenge kills gengar
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No it is a definite "check" (mini-counter so it is a counter still!) for Gengar just switch into the Hypnosis, and he will probably make it and destroy the Lum, but the chances of him hitting the next is only 45%~ so you can BP twice and KO it. So yes a counter, you are wrong.
 
For a team trying to set up a Lucario sweep, I'd heavily reccomend trying to fit stealth rocks somewhere on this team. It's invaluable to a luke sweep.
 
I think that Hariyama could be great in the open slot for a couple of reasons:

Firstly, it counters Tar and Weavile (and helps a little with Infernape) without you having to reveal Lucario or have it take any damage.

Secondly, Force Palm is great paralysis support for a Luc sweep.

Thirdly, Hariyama and Machamp are the best fighting types for supplementing they're STAB moves against counters IMO, due to them having the elemental punches.
In this team, it would be very useful to have your opponent switch in their fighting resist before they know you have Lucario, and then you batter it with the relevant punch - Gliscor/Mence get hammered by Ice Punch, Gyara gets 2/3 of his health ripped off by T Punch.

If you use Hari, I'd go Knock off or Whirlwind in the last slot, your call.
 
Phoenix_21 said:
I think that Hariyama could be great in the open slot for a couple of reasons:

Firstly, it counters Tar and Weavile (and helps a little with Infernape) without you having to reveal Lucario or have it take any damage.

Secondly, Force Palm is great paralysis support for a Luc sweep.

Thirdly, Hariyama and Machamp are the best fighting types for supplementing they're STAB moves against counters IMO, due to them having the elemental punches.
In this team, it would be very useful to have your opponent switch in their fighting resist before they know you have Lucario, and then you batter it with the relevant punch - Gliscor/Mence get hammered by Ice Punch, Gyara gets 2/3 of his health ripped off by T Punch.

If you use Hari, I'd go Knock off or Whirlwind in the last slot, your call.
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I think I will drop Heatran for one of those (I am a really big Machamp fan)

Also, I have been trying a Sub-Punching Dragonite in Azelf's spot (good ground resist) and it has been quite successful

Thinking about doing this...

Dumping Azelf and Heatran

Putting in Hariyama and Vaporeon (Vap works well with Metagross and Hariyama for wish support)


Edited, please rate changes
 
I feel like you need another ice attack somewhere, because I could see a huge dragon like a Mence or a Garchomp running through this team. I'd consider swapping Thunderpunch for Ice Punch on your duskinoir, or better yet, swapping HP electric for Ice Beam on your vaporeon, since Gyrados won't appreciate being Burned by will 0' wisp anyway.

I also think Pursuit needs to go on metagross because it handles darks and psychics that try to run away, especially celibi. Stick it on over meteor mash or EQ.
 
y2zipper said:
I feel like you need another ice attack somewhere, because I could see a huge dragon like a Mence or a Garchomp running through this team. I'd consider swapping Thunderpunch for Ice Punch on your duskinoir, or better yet, swapping HP electric for Ice Beam on your vaporeon, since Gyrados won't appreciate being Burned by will 0' wisp anyway.

I also think Pursuit needs to go on metagross because it handles darks and psychics that try to run away, especially celibi. Stick it on over meteor mash or EQ.
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Pursuit isn't that useful to me, because, more often then not, I will draw them out with Hariyama, as they are usually their fighting type counter

Well, Mence or Garchomp won't appreciate being burned either and HP electric is more surprising then Ice Beam

But maybe I'll go bolt beaming on my Vaporeon, that's an option (but then it looses effectiveness as a Heatran counter)
 
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