Giving Salamence Outrage would be pretty retarded, but it wouldn't merit a ban in my mind. I mean yeah it'd be quite a bit more difficult to deal with but it's not like we don't already have Dragonite to handle and whatnot.
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Pokemon Platinum - The definitive thread: Mach 2 (In-Game Discussion)
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uh swords dance
If there was a slack off tutor, snorlax would get it. It would be curselax all over again, but even worse. Well, he'd be status weak now, but immunity over thick fat, and you're fine from bad poison.
Edit: We need to lay off the Salamence, we're theorymoning about a move a pokemon may or may not get. Seems a little extreme to me. IF salamence gets it we can wait for some playtesting before even discussing it. I sort of started this, and I wish I could undo it.
Edit: We need to lay off the Salamence, we're theorymoning about a move a pokemon may or may not get. Seems a little extreme to me. IF salamence gets it we can wait for some playtesting before even discussing it. I sort of started this, and I wish I could undo it.
I.Love.the.frontier.music. Its an amazing remix of the emerald one.
Giratinas is a creepy cool remix as well.
Elsewhere theres people saying that there are 3 sets of move tutors, the ones we heard about and a third lot including outrage,seed bomb,gunk shot,gastro acid,endevour, and many others. All 3 are available in different cities in sinnoh not the frontier.
salamences outrage is more important then me? damn i must suck =(
Well Salamence does have a few advantages tho. Resistance to fighting makes switching into Heracross and Lucario much easier, and Stealth Rock in itself is probably going to be a suspect, either way it is theorymon and I could have a Rapid Spinner. Another advantage he has are the resistances to water and grass, making switching into Celebi actually plausible, rather than Celebi switching into him. He also gets Roost, remember? Meaning with Dragon Dance, he can outspeed nearly everything and remove his rock weakness and make ice moves sting less. I know it isn't conventional, but he can run Yache Berry as well, I have used it to great success when they want to Ice Shard. The biggest issue of Salamence wouldn't be beating the Dragon Dancing sets, it will be figuring out which 4 powerful moves it is using, and which stat it is focused on. He can after all, abuse that massive special attack on a Choice Specs set with Draco Meteor, then the next second you find out he is Naive/Rash just for your Blissey to eat an Outrage. There are many feasible switchings, but which of them can risk taking a boosted Hydro Pump or Flamethrower from 110 base special attack? Not many that I know of. I think the set will just be the standard SpecsMence, with Outrage>Dragon Pulse and Modest to Rash or Naive.
Back on topic, Earth Power and Aura Sphere would be great tutors. Magmortar would be on even ground with Heatran, with the exception of the Stealth Rock weak and lack of sandstream immunity, both of which IMO are made up by Thunderbolt and a higher base speed, plus fighting moves for Blissey.
I think the ThunderPunch Poison Heal Breloom thing would be a huge waste. Think about it, Stone Edge deals life threatening blows to Gyarados anyways, plus it hurts Salamence a lot more. Seed Bomb does more to waters, and if you aren't running it, then Focus Punch does the same amount to all of them with the exception of Gyarados.
They need a special version of Quick Attack the retains the normal typing. I would love to destroy people with Nasty Plot Porygon-Z...
Back on topic, Earth Power and Aura Sphere would be great tutors. Magmortar would be on even ground with Heatran, with the exception of the Stealth Rock weak and lack of sandstream immunity, both of which IMO are made up by Thunderbolt and a higher base speed, plus fighting moves for Blissey.
I think the ThunderPunch Poison Heal Breloom thing would be a huge waste. Think about it, Stone Edge deals life threatening blows to Gyarados anyways, plus it hurts Salamence a lot more. Seed Bomb does more to waters, and if you aren't running it, then Focus Punch does the same amount to all of them with the exception of Gyarados.
They need a special version of Quick Attack the retains the normal typing. I would love to destroy people with Nasty Plot Porygon-Z...
I just learned Earth Power is a better shadow ball. Thought it was 10 BP weaker and no Sp.D. drop. Earth Power Move Tutor is awesome!
Earth power mence xD
Starting my platinum up. Cyrus depressed me. Time to catch gira
Starting my platinum up. Cyrus depressed me. Time to catch gira
woah, sweet! Hidden Power adviser! Though I guess with AR's IV check, anyone with substantial breeding experience already is their own hidden power type advisor.
Could also be useful to make sure IVs are right, legends, and not every one has an AR.
I believe Rotom may learn those moves when it transforms.
Also,
You forgot to mention he's not immune to thunder wave, so we can slow it down too. Salamence will probably be better with Outrage than it was before, but still not nearly on Garchomp's level of nonsense.
I said I thought it was a clone of hidden power ground 70. Now I know its 90 BP and has a Sp.D. drop.
I don't think that is the issue with Mence, BTW. The issue is clearly the versatility and immediate power that can't be countered within the first 10 turns of a game. That is gamebreaking as well, but in a different way.
Specs mence potential?
Earth Power ????
Draco Meteor
Fire blast/Flamethrower.
Dragon pulse/Hydro Pump
I would lol.
Torn world music is awesome.
Earth Power ????
Draco Meteor
Fire blast/Flamethrower.
Dragon pulse/Hydro Pump
I would lol.
Torn world music is awesome.
I am not 100% sure what Earth Power on Salamence accomplishes except beating the rare Empoleon and kicking Heatran's ass even more...
Outrage over dragon pulse probably, if it got it. And once again, nothing has been confirmed, so we can only go so far.
Just in regard to it getting more moves than necessary (if any) is all I was alluding to.
Flare blitz entei would be funner.
Sceptile can't absorb Toxic Spikes, and it doesn't get Gunk Shot, which would be extremely useful in UU where all the other grassers are. Plus, it helps out sunny day teams, who have been outclassed by rain dance and sandstorm teams for ages.
EDIT: Whoa, Victreebel can learn Encore as well!
Beating Heatran, the only pokemon that resists the Draco Meteor/Fire Blast combination.
Again, Hydro Pump already accomplishes this, plus hitting possible Gengar switchins which Earth Power would fail to do.