Interesting.. Levitate has taken the lead again..
This CaP has had by far the most extremely close polls....
This CaP has had by far the most extremely close polls....
I disagree that art absolutely doesn't matter, just because pokemon generally have abilities/moves based on their art. The art serves as something that narrows your choices down. If caladbolg's art had been chosen, there's no way we woulda had levitate on this list and shouldn't have either. So when you're voting for art, you're indirectly voting against certain moves/abilities
EDIT: If you're going to argue against this by naming pokemon with weird moves/abilities please don't, that's why I said generally...
You mean like this?A Pokemon without hands using the elemental punches?
I'm going to argue against this because you don't seem to get that we don't care about flavor, or shouldn't at least. Thats why I'm proposing trying art last in the next CAP, to see how much flavor really does play into this. I would have voted for Levitate no matter WHAT the art was, because I believe it's the best for it competitively.
Then do that, it'll make the art have to conform to everything we competitively give this pokemon. But putting it before the selection of moveset/ability/etc. means you're going to have to competitively conform to the art, if not in your mind, at least in the minds of most other people. If caladbolg's art was chosen, I would not have chose or even considered levitate, but if levitate was chosen before the art, then I'd not even considered voting for caladbolg's art.I'm going to argue against this because you don't seem to get that we don't care about flavor, or shouldn't at least. Thats why I'm proposing trying art last in the next CAP, to see how much flavor really does play into this. I would have voted for Levitate no matter WHAT the art was, because I believe it's the best for it competitively.
CAP Mission Statement said:The Pokémon created by the CAP project are intended to be used in competitive metagame play. That is the primary factor driving the design and construction process. Each Pokémon should add something new or necessary to the metagame, hopefully making the metagame more balanced, and increasing the number of viable Pokémon available for competitive play. However, almost everyone involved in the CAP project is a fan of the Pokémon game. As such, although it is not the main focus of the construction process, the CAP project strives to create holistic Pokémon concepts that make sense within the spirit and example of the actual Pokémon game.
Although flavor is certainly not the most important part of this, I believe that it DOES have importance, and to say that we really shouldn't care about it at all is silly. When was the last time you saw a Pokemon without limbs use Close Combat? Even Staraptor makes a remote amount of sense with the move. What about a Pokemon without a mouth using Screech? A Pokemon without hands using the elemental punches?
If I didn't think there were exceptions to this rule, it would be gg. Quagsire does have hands anyway.Wooper. GG.
And lest we forget, Weavile has got very similar stats (oriented physically rather than specially), not that great of a movepool and equally shitty typing (if not even worse), and yet it's used quite frequently.
Isn't Weaville mostly used for priority and trapping? Correct me if I'm wrong but most sets use Pursuit and/or Ice Shard. I think a better example would be Alakazam. He's frail, fast, special based, shitty typing, has powerful attacks, and comes with trick. He's top OU right?
Yeah, Tyranitar is slow. That makes a LOT of difference. It's true that this Pokemon's type sucks, but, to counter this Pokemon, you'll need to prepare yourself to take two hits of this guy's move before you even hit it with your move. Depending on the movepool we give it, the list of counters to this Pokemon might be very small indeed.
And lest we forget, Weavile has got very similar stats (oriented physically rather than specially), not that great of a movepool and equally shitty typing (if not even worse), and yet it's used quite frequently.