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Shinryu,
Many Gyarados has Thunder Wave or Icy Wind, and Taunt. Zapdos with Zap Plate can KO Gyarados even it has Wacan Berry.
Though I said my Zapdos is EVed to withstand Kingdra's rainy Hidro Pump, standard Kingdra has Life Orb so it doesn't make sense. EV of Zapdos and Metagross is an interesting problem and is now discussed ( ex. HP 252 S.def 92 Metagross can stand 2 hits of S.atk 252 Timid Zapdos's Thunderbolt, but then that Metagross can't KO Latios by Meteor Mash + Bullet Punch. With Iron Plate, it solves this problem, but then it can't have Lum Berry )
 
micuat said:
Shinryu,
Many Gyarados has Thunder Wave or Icy Wind, and Taunt. Zapdos with Zap Plate can KO Gyarados even it has Wacan Berry.
Though I said my Zapdos is EVed to withstand Kingdra's rainy Hidro Pump, standard Kingdra has Life Orb so it doesn't make sense. EV of Zapdos and Metagross is an interesting problem and is now discussed ( ex. HP 252 S.def 92 Metagross can stand 2 hits of S.atk 252 Timid Zapdos's Thunderbolt, but then that Metagross can't KO Latios by Meteor Mash + Bullet Punch. With Iron Plate, it solves this problem, but then it can't have Lum Berry )
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Yeah...sounds like this can become quite a conundrum, having to decide if you want to live through Zappy's T-Bolt or KO the Latios...but still then, you have to worry about whatever random attacks the other Pokemon is going to throw out as well, lol.

Thanks for your insights though, they are really helpful.
 
Actually, this example is refered from Pokemon Doubles Wiki(http://www25.atwiki.jp/poke-doublebattle/).
IMO Zapdos should be timid, balanced to outspeed Gyarados and EVed HP 252, rest S.atk having Lum Berry or Charti Berry. If it is Modest, it can be HP/S.atk 252 so it may good at dealing with Metagross.
Metagross should EVed to outspeed a bit EVed Cresselia (like 4, so we should EV about 140) and HP 252 rest Atk with Iron Plate. Or, outspeeding a bit EVed Metagross will also play its role.
 
micuat said:
Actually, this example is refered from Pokemon Doubles Wiki(http://www25.atwiki.jp/poke-doublebattle/).
IMO Zapdos should be timid, balanced to outspeed Gyarados and EVed HP 252, rest S.atk having Lum Berry or Charti Berry. If it is Modest, it can be HP/S.atk 252 so it may good at dealing with Metagross.
Metagross should EVed to outspeed a bit EVed Cresselia (like 4, so we should EV about 140) and HP 252 rest Atk with Iron Plate. Or, outspeeding a bit EVed Metagross will also play its role.
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*after whipping out google translator*

Lol, first of all, I wish Google did a better job of translating. I mean, it's guess and jab at some of the Pokemon names google translated from, some of them are just out there (Sanders? Kabigon? lol...)

Otherwise, that's definitely an interesting resource, thanks for the link.
 
Shinryu said:
*after whipping out google translator*

Lol, first of all, I wish Google did a better job of translating. I mean, it's guess and jab at some of the Pokemon names google translated from, some of them are just out there (Sanders? Kabigon? lol...)

Otherwise, that's definitely an interesting resource, thanks for the link.
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It's hard to translate Jpn to eng and vice versa. At first glance it's impossible to comprehend but going through it it gets easier. Of course three years of HS Japanese doesn't hurt either. I would google a hiragana and katakana chart. If you see katakana just look up the characters and sound it out, it will usually be the same as the english name. Although google translate does alright with them (Gyarados is Dos Guarentee lol). Serebii also has the japanese names or googling them works. Google Kabigon and youll find out it's Snorlax googleing the japanese characters works better. Attacks you kinda have to guess and natures are awesome (why couldn't english have craven).

Well I'll save you some trouble whats on the left is what google gives you not necessarily the japanese name
Sanders - Jolteon
Kabigon - Snorlax
Thunder - Zapdos
Sutami - Starmie
Manmu - Mamoswine
Rattle - Marowak
Raguraji - Swampert
Bomanda - Salamence
Mikaruge - Spiritomb
Ratiosu/Ratiasu - Latios/Latias
Goukuzaru - Infernape
Runpapa - Ludicolo
Ice - Regice
Rizadon - Charizard
Uindi - Arcanine
Fire - Moltres
Herakurosu - Heracross

I think that covers every pokemon in the famous combination section
 
Voltron said:
It's hard to translate Jpn to eng and vice versa. At first glance it's impossible to comprehend but going through it it gets easier. Of course three years of HS Japanese doesn't hurt either. I would google a hiragana and katakana chart. If you see katakana just look up the characters and sound it out, it will usually be the same as the english name. Although google translate does alright with them (Gyarados is Dos Guarentee lol). Serebii also has the japanese names or googling them works. Google Kabigon and youll find out it's Snorlax googleing the japanese characters works better. Attacks you kinda have to guess and natures are awesome (why couldn't english have craven).

Well I'll save you some trouble whats on the left is what google gives you not necessarily the japanese name
Sanders - Jolteon
Kabigon - Snorlax
Thunder - Zapdos
Sutami - Starmie
Manmu - Mamoswine
Rattle - Marowak
Raguraji - Swampert
Bomanda - Salamence
Mikaruge - Spiritomb
Ratiosu/Ratiasu - Latios/Latias
Goukuzaru - Infernape
Runpapa - Ludicolo
Ice - Regice
Rizadon - Charizard
Uindi - Arcanine
Fire - Moltres
Herakurosu - Heracross

I think that covers every pokemon in the famous combination section
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I knew those 5 classes of HS Spanish were worthless, lol. Wish they offered Japanese...

Anyways, thanks a lot for the translations, I mean I knew some of them like Heracross, but some are out there...I mean, Sanders? How do I know it doesn't mean Colonel Sanders? rofl...
 
We know the banned Pokemon. Now lets list the banned moves

For the Pokemon Showdown 2009 tournament. I was thinking, for some Pokemon they not only learn certain moves only in later evolutions, but that they are also past level 50. Here's what I have so far along with reasoning:


Charizard - Flare Blitz Lv. 66 (Charmander nor Charmeleon learn it)
Nidoking - Megahorn Lv. 58 (Nidoran nor Nidorino learn it)
Bellossom - Leaf Storm Lv. 53 (Oddish nor Gloom learn it)
Venomoth - Bug Buzz Lv. 59 (Venonat cannot learn it)
Slowking - Trump Card Lv. 53 (Slowpoke nor Slowbro learn it)
Hitmonlee - Close Combat Lv. 53 (Tyrogue cannot learn it)
Hitmonlee - Reversal Lv. 57 (Tyrogue cannot learn it)
Hitmonchan - Close Combat Lv. 56 (Tyrogue cannot learn it)
Rhyperior - Rock Wrecker Lv. 61 (Rhyhorn nor Rhydon learn it)
Vaporeon - Haze Lv. 57 (Level is too high)
Vaporeon - Acid Armor Lv. 64 (Level is too high)
Vaporeon - Hydro Pump Lv. 71 (Level is too high)
Vaporeon - Muddy Water Lv. 78 (Level is too high)
Jolteon - Agility Lv. 64 (Level is too high)
Jolteon - Discharge Lv. 78 (Level is too high)
Flareon - Smog Lv. 57 (Level is too high)
Flareon - Scary Face Lv. 64 (Level is too high)
Flareon - Lava Plume Lv. 78 (Level is too high)
Espeon - Morning Sun Lv. 71 (Level is too high)
Espeon - Power Swap Lv. 78 (Level is too high)
Umbreon - Mean Look Lv. 57 (Level is too high)
Umbreon - Screech Lv. 64 (Level is too high)
Umbreon - Moonlight Lv. 71 (Level is too high)
Umbreon - Moonlight Lv. 78 (Level is too high)
Leafeon - Grasswhistle Lv. 57 (Level is too high)
Leafeon - Leaf Blade Lv. 71 (Level is too high)
Glaceon - Mirror Coat Lv. 57 (Level is too high)
Kabutops - Night Slash Lv. 71 (Kabuto cannot learn it)
Lucario - Extremespeed Lv. 51 (Riolu does not learn it)

I'm gonna stop it with the asterix pokemon. It seems too redundant and not worth my time. I deleted them to clean up space. woo, look at me I'm up to Chinchou I'm really moving fast... My internet sucks.
 
And... why does that matter? This doesn't seem like it actually needs a thread.

Also, the ability to learn level up moves via breeding has been known for a while- Little Cup uses it for a lot of stuff.
 
This is a list of moves Pokemon cannot possibly learn at level 50. A list like this one is very useful at a glance.

The only other incompatible moves I know of right now are Gallade and Close Combat, but I'll update later if I can think of any. Unless this has changed since Platinum?
 
This is for the 2009 Tournament. Official Nintendo only permit level 50 Pokemon to participate. Thats why they released the Toys R Us Dragonite. Outrage was just a gift.

For example, lets say you go to the tournament and you see a Jolteon using Discharge (This might be pretty common). That's an illegal moveset and that player should be disqualified as its a move Jolteon can learn, but ONLY past level 50. Eevee can't learn it either. As you can see, some are silly and stupid but others are really important (Jolteon with Discharge, Lucario with Extremespeed, Nidoking with Megahorn). Plus its for your own protection as well. It'd really suck if you went to the tournament only to be kicked out since you have illegal Pokemon.
 
Destati said:
This is for the 2009 Tournament. Official Nintendo only permit level 50 Pokemon to participate. Thats why they released the Toys R Us Dragonite. Outrage was just a gift.

For example, lets say you go to the tournament and you see a Jolteon using Discharge (This might be pretty common). That's an illegal moveset and that player should be disqualified as its a move Jolteon can learn, but ONLY past level 50. Eevee can't learn it either. As you can see, some are silly and stupid but others are really important (Jolteon with Discharge, Lucario with Extremespeed, Nidoking with Megahorn). Plus its for your own protection as well. It'd really suck if you went to the tournament only to be kicked out since you have illegal Pokemon.
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NO, it wouldn't. It would actually be extremely funny because if a person was kicked out, they should be for pokesaving pokes. If you breed, this thing about illegal move sets can not happen. Nintendo also hack checks people's games to prevent hackers from participating.

Most of Smogon does not Pokesav so the community shouldn't have any problems with illegal move sets. And even for the ones that do pokesav, the Original post should (if anywhere) go in the 2009 showdown thread.
 
Its possible to create legit hacks where you wouldn't know the difference. Rather than creating from scratch, you edit. Trade a pokemon to your r4ds. Load it on Pokesav. Edit the Pokemon's moves, nature, etc. Load it back on thr r4ds. Send it back to your platinum cartridge. Completely Legit.

Also, the best way to test if a Pokemon is legit or not is to play PBR online. If you can get into an online battle, its legit.
 
like the above posters you can create hacked pokemon that show up legit even to nintendo's hack testers
 
Destati said:
Its possible to create legit hacks where you wouldn't know the difference. Rather than creating from scratch, you edit. Trade a pokemon to your r4ds. Load it on Pokesav. Edit the Pokemon's moves, nature, etc. Load it back on thr r4ds. Send it back to your platinum cartridge. Completely Legit.

Also, the best way to test if a Pokemon is legit or not is to play PBR online. If you can get into an online battle, its legit.
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It may be possible, but PBR certainly won't tell you if a Pokemon is legit or not. All it does it look for illegal Pokes, not legit ones. If you want to take the risk and attempt to make hacks that will fool nintendo then go ahead, if that's a risk you want to take.
 
we're playing "not illegal =/= legal", huh.

Well, I'll take that risk because I know its not a risk at all. As far as I'm concerned, a non-illegal pokemon is the same thing as a legal one.
 
I'd like to mention that nintendo cannot tell if you have used rebattle codes, cloning, Iv check, fast egg etc
 
Also, people play Shoddy because A) You can play on the internet without stupid friend codes and B) You don't have to spend 10 hours breeding the Pokemon of your choice.

I'm not trying to get into a debate, but it seems that some people are a bit hypocritical on their standing (not Sunday)
 
i think that this thread would be more useful if it had only attack that cannot be use, and leave out the whole breeding move deal.

just my personal opinion though.
 
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