Most Generation PRNG Help / Information

No, Arael, no.

Directions much?

@ Syberia --

How much time does it take to trade over a pokemon and get it's PID and then search in the master list, add 2 to the number and readjust for the rest of my work?

Very little.

And considering I am spending an hour on this taking a 5 minute detour to ensure that I get what I want seems like time well spent to me.
 
Awesome pink, hit me with it and directions on irc. :) Wish torso was around to test this trading idea of mine.
 
Hey mingot, you might want to check this out. In the calcpid jap app, in the gomi tab, the bottom right has two iv things for parents and the button on the right to it in the box makes a list of number which looks like spreads of the egg.

It's not based of the app, because I didn't touch it and it was at 114, whatever that stands for. Maybe time in seconds.


I captured a pkmn and found the original PID. The resulting pokemon spread came up but it came up in the same spot when I changed the IVs of the parents.
 
No sure exactly what you mean :) Play with it and see what you can find.

Also, sadly, trading in the union room fucks over your IRNG. So no stopping for a quick check of your position.

Also, not so sadly, as long as you don't overshoot you can simply keep working on eggs until you reach your shiny. Might be worth it to STOP 10 early and work forward to the spread to increase chances.
 
Yes, it does. By one position in the big list. Thought it would be two, but no. So if you undershoot just keep gettin' eggs.
 
Um. There's a little problem, though: I did the Happiness Checker thing with FIVE pokémon with me instead of six, does it mean I'll have to get a shitload of eggs before scoring a shiny?
 
Take how ever many time you did hit it. Multiple that by two.

That number is how many "frames" early you are.

If it's an acceptable number live with it.

If it's high go back to the happiness checker AND REMEMBER SWITCHING TO IT ACTS AS IF YOU HAD HIT IT ONCE and then hit it some more to catch up.

It advances you 2 * pokemon in party.
 
Oh, thanks. So I'm 302 "frames" earlier (152 * 2 - 2 eggs already gotten) and with 5 pokémon + 1 egg (6 pokémon?), so I must press it 25 times and then I'll be only 1 frame off, correct?
 
Not really sure how eggs effect it. I would guess they don't but it would be a guess. Drop off the egg and get a pokemon to be sure.

And no, 25 would be too much. As I wrote IN BIG FUCKING ALL UPPER CASE was that when you switch to the happiness checker it is as if you had hit it once.

So 25-1 = 24.

And if you've been on the checker the whole time you're already fucked and need to start over :(

Be safe. Do it 22 of 23 times and collect eggs heh.
 
And no, 25 would be too much. As I wrote IN BIG FUCKING ALL UPPER CASE was that when you switch to the happiness checker it is as if you had hit it once.

It happens ONLY when you switch to it, right? Not when you are switching through the other apps, I guess?
 
Yessir, just when you switch to it.

Man, I can't wait until/if I get RNGReporter showing the egg/pid list because then it will be nice english nature/gender to check against for sequencing as you get some eggs.

I'm half tempted to just have an option for the time being to parse in his file and get the information from there if all else fails.
 
Arael, you need to read the thread first before asking all these questions, they've all been answered before.

EDIT: Guess who got a shiny egg?!?!? HUUUURRRAAAHHHHH!!! But it's Serious, lol. xP
 
Arael, you need to read the thread first before asking all these questions, they've all been answered before.

EDIT: Guess who got a shiny egg?!?!? HUUUURRRAAAHHHHH!!! But it's Serious, lol. xP
Congratz

Is it possible to save before getting Egg? So we can reset to get good IVs?

How to calculate the IVs and nature from PID
 
Is it possible to save before getting Egg? So we can reset to get good IVs?
When the Egg has already been created, yes, I suppose. PID [Gender, Nature, Trait and "Shiny-or-not"] is already set, so we don't need any Incubation RNG calls to make the Egg shiny.

How to calculate the IVs and nature from PID
IVs can't be calculated from the PID, Unlike in Wild pokémons, 'cause Egg's IVs are created when you retire the egg, not when the Egg is created. Egg's IVs and PID are not related.

Nature [as well as Trait and Gender] can be calculated from PID, here is how you should do.
 
When the Egg has already been created, yes, I suppose. PID [Gender, Nature, Trait and "Shiny-or-not"] is already set, so we don't need any Incubation RNG calls to make the Egg shiny. Ok, amazing =D

IVs can't be calculated from the PID, Unlike in Wild pokémons, 'cause Egg's IVs are created when you retire the egg, not when the Egg is created. Egg's IVs and PID are not related.

Nature [as well as Trait and Gender] can be calculated from PID, here is how you should do. Oops, I meant Gender and nature, I think the page will help me =D

EDIT: Hmm, could someone give an example how to convert it? Because I don't quite understand; I tried this

8713F9B6

1000 0111 0001 0011 1111 10001 1011 0110

But that's not converted right.
 
Do you run on Windows?

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This will help a lot!
Oper that calculator, on "Scientific Mode".

Click on the "Hex" [it stands for "Hexadecimal"] option-dot and, after that, type your HEX value, like there:

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Now, what you have to do is simply click the "Dec" [it stands for "Decimal"] opt-dot:

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And yeah, you've your Hex-to-dec converted PID.

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Do you run on Windows?

66464343.png


This will help a lot!
Oper that calculator, on "Scientific Mode".

Click on the "Hex" [it stands for "Hexadecimal"] option-dot and, after that, type your HEX value, like there:

32350593.png


Now, what you have to do is simply click the "Dec" [it stands for "Decimal"] opt-dot:

93323463.png


And yeah, you've your Hex-to-dec converted PID.

70694398.png
Amazing, so the nature will be, 20 (70-25=45-25=20) so that's calm

And this B6 is 182, So it will be 75% change of being female

Am I right?
 
Amazing, so the nature will be, 20 (70-25=45-25=20) so that's calm

And this B6 is 182, So it will be 75% change of being female

Am I right?
Yes! =D


Everstone's activation is 50%. I'm trying to discover what determines the activation. It's the "normal" RNG, I suppose, so maybe it's influenced by steps and all the things written in the first post... We'll see.
Maybe we can find a way to "predict" if the Everstone is going to activate or not.
 
Yes! =D


Everstone's activation is 50%. I'm trying to discover what determines the activation. It's the "normal" RNG, I suppose, so maybe it's influenced by steps and all the things written in the firs post... We'll see.
Maybe we can find a way to "predict" if the Everstone is going to activate or not.
Awesome =D Well I had to double-click 700 times for a Docile nature.

And I have a question;

For example: I need to double-click 100 times and 4 times the coin. So when I did 100 double-clicks and 1 coin, is it possible to save before getting egg, hatch it, if shiny reset for good IVs, but if it's not shiny I do another coin. I hope everyone understands what I mean.

And a calculation:

I want to get 03016

03016 / 12 = 251,33333333333333333 = 251

251 * 12 = 3012

251 - 1 = 250 double clicks
4 Coin-toss.

Is this correct?
 
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