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Most Generation PRNG Help / Information

I am using the RNG Reporter and I have my values correct and everything but when I put what ivs I want on the pokemon it doesn't find anything. How do I fix that?

It depends, if you are doing hex flawless, you need to change the frame. If it is quint flawless, it should find one, if not, change the frame/time.
 
I think I can sorta. If someone could verify this, it would be appreciated. It's been a week since I've done this.

Scenting is -2 from frame
Turning is -1
Walking is -1
Turning and Walking is -2 (just add the previous 2)
NPCs advance it, not sure how much, probably the same, so try not to do it with NPCs in the area.

so frame 73 would go like this
scenting: 73-2 = 71
turn: 71-1 = 70
Journal: 70/2 = 35
I haven't tested walking and turning but I have the feeling that scenting advances the frame by a different number depending on where it is you scent. It could even differ from person to person/ game to game because when I scent in a cave I get +5
 
Hi!
I forgot bout an egg move now I wanted a help
Situation:
I got the right nature, the shiny, forgot the egg move
I wanna get the shiny again, but with the egg move, what happens is that I dont wanna go on luck after the nature again
(if theres no way, ill have to do it)
But what if I give the female a everstone, wont it make ANY effect?
 
Hi!
I forgot bout an egg move now I wanted a help
Situation:
I got the right nature, the shiny, forgot the egg move
I wanna get the shiny again, but with the egg move, what happens is that I dont wanna go on luck after the nature again
(if theres no way, ill have to do it)
But what if I give the female a everstone, wont it make ANY effect?

No, everstones mess up the process. Don't equip them.

If you bothered to write down the information of the shiny spread (the date, time, delay, seconds) then you could technically reset your DS clock and try to get the spread again. Otherwise you'll have to luck it.
 
No, everstones mess up the process. Don't equip them.

If you bothered to write down the information of the shiny spread (the date, time, delay, seconds) then you could technically reset your DS clock and try to get the spread again. Otherwise you'll have to luck it.

D:
shit, i closed the rng reporter
¬¬
anyway, gon have to go on luck
T-T

thanks for that
 
would using pokes transferred from 3rd gen as parents mess anything up? and would anything differ if you try this on a japanese cartridge?
 
Is the 4-digit one like the 5-digit one exept for a 0? SIDs are always 5 digits, and if you get a 4-digit one (at least I know this is true when you're using AR to find yours) you add a zero at the front of the number
They are 2584 and 40816. So I should add a zero to the first and then test to see which one is correct?
 
I need the frame at 1 when trying for Azelf right?

Oh for that. I thought you were doing eggs. People need to mention what they are doing.

You aren't finding any cause there are none. You actually will need the frame to be higher, and yes it is possible to get the frame you want, read the OP, it is there somewhere.
 
They are 2584 and 40816. So I should add a zero to the first and then test to see which one is correct?

I'm not sure. SIDs can only be 5 digits. I don't know anything about finding SIDs with RNG reporter, so I can't help you there >.<
 
So, I'm going to write a guide and make a video guide for catching Wild Pokemon in Dppt (Using the same method as you do for legends) but I need to know what differs. Like, what does sweet scenting do to offset and such. Same with positioning, moving, facing different ways, and NPCs on the screen.

Can anyone help me out?

Sounds like a good idea. I do plan to update with information about the methods for TV Rotom, Fossils, Grass pokemon at some point, too.

So I just finished reading the guide and I'm still a bit confused. I planning to capture Cressy. So should I still do method 1, capture a pokemon to determine the ivs and plug it into the calc? Do I still have to use RNG reporter? Thanks!

Yes, follow the directions in the guide.

O.K., so I used RNG Reporter to caclulate my SID (I also used the by-hand method), and got diferent SID's, one with 4 digits and one with 5. Am I correct in assuming that I have to try both to find the correct one?

You might try actually giving ALL of the relavent information about your shiny (everything the guide that has you do by hand) and then showing your results and RNG Reporters results. Only one of them is correct and it's going to come down to whether you made a mistake calculating it by hand or you made a mistake entering it into RNG Reporter.

I am using the RNG Reporter and I have my values correct and everything but when I put what ivs I want on the pokemon it doesn't find anything. How do I fix that?

Need more information. What are you trying to do? Where exactly are you putting the IVs? There are at least 4 places in the current version to enter IVs so try to be clear about what you are doing.

So this Excel file I have with a ton of Seeds and Offsets listed, all I have to do is match the seed and offset in order to get the listed IV's? What about making it shiny?

If you want shiny you need to use the timefinder and click the shiny only button. I believe there is a section of the guide called "selecting your spread" that covers this.

I haven't tested walking and turning but I have the feeling that scenting advances the frame by a different number depending on where it is you scent. It could even differ from person to person/ game to game because when I scent in a cave I get +5

Do you mean frame? Offset is the number in the initial seed finder (which is going away in the next version) and the frame is the number of the ... frame when you generate.

If you mean frame, what you are saying is that you soft reset in a cave with no wandering NPCs and the monster you catch is consistantly on frame 5?

Hi!
I forgot bout an egg move now I wanted a help
Situation:
I got the right nature, the shiny, forgot the egg move
I wanna get the shiny again, but with the egg move, what happens is that I dont wanna go on luck after the nature again
(if theres no way, ill have to do it)
But what if I give the female a everstone, wont it make ANY effect?

Yes, it will fuck you up. How could I make the instructions clearer than they are currently?

From the OP:

6. Two compatible parents you would like to breed. An everstone will NOT be helpful of necessary. Do not equip an everstone.

 
Yes, it will fuck you up. How could I make the instructions clearer than they are currently?

From the OP:

6. Two compatible parents you would like to breed. An everstone will NOT be helpful of necessary. Do not equip an everstone.


yup, i know
but dunno, maybe it meant that i could use, but it was not helpful
meaning that id have chances of get this nature, not the ones like the program says
 
O.K., here is my calc for PID #2 (the first one started with zero and I couldn't get it into the calculator).
F564
CDCA into
1111010101100100 and
1100110111001010.
Trainer ID 12978 to
0011001010110010.
Did the column thing and ended up with
0000101000011, which apparently converts to
2584. I used a Brave Gallade (shiny) @ 16/8/20/4/10/19
 
O.K., here is my calc for PID #2 (the first one started with zero and I couldn't get it into the calc).
F564CDCA into
1111010101100100 and
1100110111001010.
Trainer ID 12978 to
0011001010110010.
Did the column thing and ended up with
0000101000011, which apparently converts to
2584. I used a Brave Gallade (shiny) @ 16/8/20/4/10/19

I don't know how to do this SID crap, but I think the error was on your part most likely. The only way I can help is make sure this is a random caught pokemon.

Now that I think of it, I can check your SID and see check the program works fine.
 
I don't know how to do this SID crap, but I think the error was on your part most likely. The only way I can help is make sure this is a random caught pokemon.

Now that I think of it, I can check your SID and see check the program works fine.
I think so too, as I just tried again and got like 369 or someting... could someone check my work?
 
O.K., here is my calc for PID #2 (the first one started with zero and I couldn't get it into the calculator).
F564
CDCA into
1111010101100100 and
1100110111001010.
Trainer ID 12978 to
0011001010110010.
Did the column thing and ended up with
0000101000011, which apparently converts to
2584. I used a Brave Gallade (shiny) @ 16/8/20/4/10/19

Ok, after re-reading your post and plugging this in ...

It sounded like you said that you did it by hand and with RNG Reporter and those results did not match, when in fact you just ended up with two results.

You are in a somewhat bad situation in that you actually will need to try them both and see which one is correct, sorry :/

And just to verify this was a non-chained shiny correct?

Also, if you happen to KNOW that you caught it very shortly after turning on your game there is an outside chance we could figure out which of these two is correct. If you got it after some hours of playing the game you will just have to test it out. If testing, suggest you track down a Japanese ditto and resetting for a very low tap shiny of any nature and trying on one and then doing the same thing for the other if it does not work.
 
Ok, after re-reading your post and plugging this in ...

It sounded like you said that you did it by hand and with RNG Reporter and those results did not match, when in fact you just ended up with two results.

You are in a somewhat bad situation in that you actually will need to try them both and see which one is correct, sorry :/
Great...that's what I thought. *groans inwardly*

EDIT: Nevermind. LightningFusion checked it for me. Thanks for the help, everyone!
 
ok, I did an SID check for robalo and it was 40819. That means RNG reporter was probably right since there are like 8 different similar SIDs that would get you the same shinys I believe.
 
Do you mean frame? Offset is the number in the initial seed finder (which is going away in the next version) and the frame is the number of the ... frame when you generate.

If you mean frame, what you are saying is that you soft reset in a cave with no wandering NPCs and the monster you catch is consistantly on frame 5?
Sorry if I used the wrong term. Offset and frame still confuse me, but what I meant was that when I sweet scent in a cave (outside Heatran's cave) and then go and catch Heatran, Heatran's frame is +6 of the sweet scented pokemon. Taking into account the offset(?) of Heatran is 1 that means that the sweet scenting is advancing the frame by 5 (again sorry if I'm using offset and frame wrongly.)
 
Sorry if I used the wrong term. Offset and frame still confuse me, but what I meant was that when I sweet scent in a cave (outside Heatran's cave) and then go and catch Heatran, Heatran's frame is +6 of the sweet scented pokemon. Taking into account the offset(?) of Heatran is 1 that means that the sweet scenting is advancing the frame by 5 (again sorry if I'm using offset and frame wrongly.)

Uhm, that is sorta correct I guess. Do you account for turning around outside heatran's lair? I'll assume you don't turn around, but actually saved facing the enterance. Also, SS is +1 in caves, so it is actually add 4 to normal things, but I also thought if you SS when you start you get frame 2. So that may be some problems.
 
Uhm, that is sorta correct I guess. Do you account for turning around outside heatran's lair? I'll assume you don't turn around, but actually saved facing the enterance. Also, SS is +1 in caves, so it is actually add 4 to normal things, but I also thought if you SS when you start you get frame 2. So that may be some problems.
I sweet scent facing the door so I'm assuming that won't make a difference.

Hmm very interesting. Definitely needs more testing, which I'll get to eventually as I've only tested in caves not in normal grass.
 
I have a question related to ID/SID generation. I assume it uses the startup seed to generate your ID/SID when creating a new game. If there is no way to advance the RNG during this screen, wouldn't that limit the amount of possible ID/SID combinations to something always on offset 1?
 
hey , i have a question. or two


1. do i have to catch a pokemon and check its IVs every time i want to hatch a shiny or is once enough.

2. i keep running out of rare candies before metal kids IV checker can give an accurate result, i've been told to iv battle, so will that advance the seed and stuff etc
 
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