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HGSS Megaspeculation Thread

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While Game Freak has broken 'sig moves', like Leaf Blade tile, Psycho Boost Deoxys..etc, I don't think they'll give Entei Sacred Fire, but Flare Blitz is plausible. If there'll be tutors, and Flare Blitz's one of them, it'd be like Outrage in Platinum; basically every fire-type is gonna be able to learn it, which is cool.
 
Hoenn came before Johto anyways.

I mean look at FR/LG, should they have had the Time Machine?
Time Machine for what? GSC pokémon? Not possible, due to the reason below.

The Time Machine (actually, I think it was called some weird fancy name, they took place at the same time anyways) allowed RSE to trade with FRLG.

Also, these are remakes of G/S not of Crystal, don't expect ES Dragonite. Although, maybe we can hope for an ES move tutor...
 
I think the Tutors will be:

ExtremeSpeed
SwordsDance
FlareBlitz
CloseCombat
Elemental Fangs(Seriously Elemental Punches are really old now..Platinum had them as tutor,and emerald.)
Dive+maybe return of the Dive Feature to get things like Lugia. I really liked this in R/S/E and I was really bummed out when I figured out when they didnt have this in D/P/Pt.
Spore(this'd be awesome on Meganium)


But yea I would really enjoy some tutor moves such as ExtremeSpeed And Close Combat. *Dreams of Close Combat Typloshion*

And thunderfang on mamo'd be cool
 
I think the Tutors will be:

ExtremeSpeed
SwordsDance
FlareBlitz
CloseCombat
Elemental Fangs(Seriously Elemental Punches are really old now..Platinum had them as tutor,and emerald.)
Dive+maybe return of the Dive Feature to get things like Lugia. I really liked this in R/S/E and I was really bummed out when I figured out when they didnt have this in D/P/Pt.
Spore(this'd be awesome on Meganium)


But yea I would really enjoy some tutor moves such as ExtremeSpeed And Close Combat. *Dreams of Close Combat Typloshion*

And thunderfang on mamo'd be cool

Spore on Meganium/Jumpluff alone is fine (added to lv up movepool), but tutor would basically mean every grass type (that could learn it) would abuse it. Things like Scpetile would be far more used.

Also, Thunder Fang is uneeded on Mammo; EQ is more powerful than x2 SE Thunder Fang, and things like Gyarados are hit with Stone Edge anyway, the elemental fangs tutor'd be interesting, but most things who don't have punches, and need fangs either have'em or have better options.
 
I think the Tutors will be:

ExtremeSpeed
SwordsDance
FlareBlitz
CloseCombat
Elemental Fangs(Seriously Elemental Punches are really old now..Platinum had them as tutor,and emerald.)
Dive+maybe return of the Dive Feature to get things like Lugia. I really liked this in R/S/E and I was really bummed out when I figured out when they didnt have this in D/P/Pt.
Spore(this'd be awesome on Meganium)

Swords Dance is a TM. Talk about redundant.
 
Spore on Meganium/Jumpluff alone is fine (added to lv up movepool), but tutor would basically mean every grass type (that could learn it) would abuse it. Things like Scpetile would be far more used.

Spore on Jumpluff would be ridiculous.

Spore on Sceptile would be near broken. Seriously, if you only have one phazer, say Skarmory, what are you supposed to stop something with 120 base speed with when it gets slept? Same thing for Shaymin-S. When I say broken, I mean for UU, since Scizor stops SubSeed easily.

Unfortunately, I don't see Torterra or Abomasnow receiving Spore if there is a tutor. He would be a very fun sweeper since if they send in Skarmory or Bronzong you simply sleep them.

An Extremespeed tutor would be cool, Garchomp would 100% get it, which would further lower the amount of SD Rayquaza users.

Entei and Flareon would actually make it into UU with Flare Blitz.

Close Combat on Typhlosion... While it would be useful in game, competitively it is still outclassed by Blaziken/Charizard in UU, and Infernape in OU.

Nobody wants elemental fangs, or atleast not me(heart scale gets you them on most pokes anyways).
 
ExtremeSpeed: Maybe. COuldn't tell you.
SwordsDance: TM no need
FlareBlitz: Probability is high, and I want it
CloseCombat: Infernape and Lucario already rape things with CC. Do we really want every guy to have CC to rape with? I'd say it's a bit overpowered
Elemental Fangs: Useless. Sorry
Dive: Nah, hated it
Spore: Breaks all Grass types.
 
Even in entei and flareon gets flare blitz there both outclassed by blazkien and charizard in uu and heatran/infernape in Ou. Still those two would do far better with a solid attack like earthquake than a double edge like recoil.
 
Even in entei and flareon gets flare blitz there both outclassed by blazkien and charizard in uu and heatran/infernape in Ou. Still those two would do far better with a solid attack like earthquake than a double edge like recoil.

Entei and Flareon would differ from Blaziken(Charizard is ultimately outclassed with Focus Punch as its fighting move, less attack, 4x SR weak, etc.) since both of them are bulkier(with the exception of Flareon's defense). While Blaziken has Blaze, Flareon has Flash Fire. Blaziken excels at mixed attacking in UU, meanwhile these two would be purely physical, since their movepools support it. Obviously, these two can run filler fourth moves, like Overheat, but your main concern would be Flare Blitz. Not that it matters anyways, usage statistics don't lie, and if the time arises, we will eventually see the outcome.
 
EDIT: Just saw the video from pokemon sunday where the egg from aceus "hatched". From the way you people were talking about it, I expected it to stop right when it flashed open. It stops just after a single crack. (Then the guy next to pichu starts screaming like a little girl -_-) Doesn't seem like they're "preventing" you from seeing it. You guys are overreacting and looking for clues that aren't there. We all need to slow down and move on to a different subject.

What do you mean? They ARE preventing you from seeing it by not letting you see what hatches out of the egg. A bit suspicious, if they have nothing to hide then why wouldn't they just let the egg completely hatch?
 
I think the Tutors will be:

ExtremeSpeed
SwordsDance
FlareBlitz
CloseCombat
Elemental Fangs(Seriously Elemental Punches are really old now..Platinum had them as tutor,and emerald.)
Dive+maybe return of the Dive Feature to get things like Lugia. I really liked this in R/S/E and I was really bummed out when I figured out when they didnt have this in D/P/Pt.
Spore(this'd be awesome on Meganium)


But yea I would really enjoy some tutor moves such as ExtremeSpeed And Close Combat. *Dreams of Close Combat Typloshion*

And thunderfang on mamo'd be cool
When I first saw this I thought it was some Extremespeed Infernape moveset.

Spore is just wishful thinking. But I guess no more so then my wishes for Toxic Spikes tutor and Tail Glow.
 
I think the Tutors will be:

ExtremeSpeed
SwordsDance
FlareBlitz
CloseCombat
Elemental Fangs(Seriously Elemental Punches are really old now..Platinum had them as tutor,and emerald.)
Dive+maybe return of the Dive Feature to get things like Lugia. I really liked this in R/S/E and I was really bummed out when I figured out when they didnt have this in D/P/Pt.
Spore(this'd be awesome on Meganium)


But yea I would really enjoy some tutor moves such as ExtremeSpeed And Close Combat. *Dreams of Close Combat Typloshion*

And thunderfang on mamo'd be cool



If Spore became a move tutor I think I would stop playing pokemon.
 
Ok Revamp!

ExtremeSpeed
FlareBlitz
CloseCombat
ElementalFangs(for things that can bite, but can't punch)Sharpedo :]
Dive

I think these seem reasonable. I think we're going to get the Dive feature back though.
 
... Your point is? I didn't mean they will be new TMs, I meant what moves should the Tutors teach, if any. I just think it's silly how they won't have any Tutors for the old TM moves in 2nd gen.


Lol I don't decide the tutor moves, I was just stating what I think they will be. Anything is possible.
 
Which is why I think the old TM moves won't be forgotten so easily. ;P

Also, has it been discussed already whether or not Contests will be in Hg/Ss? I still doubt how those Accessories = Obvious point of Contest use. There's still that little chance their only use would be for dressing up your pokémon for picture taking in whatever the Global Terminal area would be..
 
These guesses at tutors are getting a bit ridiculous, Dive and Fangs are plausible, but having all of CloseCombat, Extreme Speed, and Fire Blitz is going a bit too far (Hell even 1 of them is unlikely.).

Also, since GSC initially had a Rest Park and a Safari Zone that was permanently closed, what's to say those can't actually get some utility this time. I just don't buy these arguments against Pal Park when you have two parks that are available for use already.
 
... Your point is? I didn't mean they will be new TMs, I meant what moves should the Tutors teach, if any. I just think it's silly how they won't have any Tutors for the old TM moves in 2nd gen.

They did that with emerald it doesnt have to be redone. And if you really want curse use the tm for bulk up. If they get rid of national park for pal park. I would be very pissed off. Who thinks the randomly running pokes like tangela and frimer will be back?
 
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