Wow i didn't think there would be so much Phione discussion...
just to edit what i said before i found out it had HP Electric (the stupid calculator said it was HP Bug or something) so I'm probably putting that in.
Leafeon rules. It can be a good phys waller or a phys attacker. Only problems are it's bad SpD and HP and it's pretty limited movepool. Still, STAB Leaf Blade and me go way back so I love giving that to my Leafeon. Aerial Ace, Iron Tail, Seed Bomb and Take Down are all meh, even though it can learn X-Scissor and Return for some more physical power, despite the pretty bad type coverage. If I was using it I'd probably either do standard SD set or do something funny like give it Choice Scarf/Band (probably Scarf) with AA, Leaf Blade, X-Scissor and Return.
Luxray is actually decent. He's just sorta outclassed by Manectric. Sure Lux is a lot bulkier but Manectric's got the Speed, the thing sweepers need. Also Manectric has a decent special movepool, while Lux hasn't even got a decent STAB in his best stat (that's not too much of a setback though, it's Special Attack is close to Manectric's). Luxray should probably be Scarfed with a Naive/Hasty nature and something like Thunderbolt, Superpower, Crunch and Ice/Fire Fang. Signal Beam is a possible choice, as is HP Grass/Fire, that's just up to you.
One thing that annoyed me was that Entei sorta rolled over and died. I mean, it's got great attack, just the movepool's let it down. A bit like the physical Luxray it's best physical STAB is it's elemental Fang, which isn't that great. It's only offensive moves are Giga Impact, Stone Edge, Return, Frustration, Iron Tail, Dig and Iron Head (ruled out the crappy HM ones and all that). Giga Impact, Iron Tail (unless you're willing to put up with the terrible accuracy) and Dig are ruled out, leaving only 5 moves to work with. Of course you're not gonna run Frustration and Return together unless you're mentally insane so that gives you 4 moves to work with. That worth sticking a Choice Band on? Will-O-Wisp is a probably invaluable move that can save your butt loads of times and Toxic works the same way. Or you can go in the polar opposite direction to what I've been talking about and give it a Special set, even though it has just as an inadequate Special movepool as it's physical. Just give it Calm Mind, Eruption/Lava Plume/Fire Blast/Flamethrower/Overheat/Heat Wave (personal choice), Shadow Ball and HP Ground or scratch Calm Mind and give it Choiced with SolarBeam (may stir up some problems, obviously the one turn charge is a downfall. Swift is a more conservative choice).
Finally, the Seviper. I personally think Seviper has a movepool better suited for a physical sweeper. Maybe STAB Sludge Bomb over Giga Drain? I know Poison hasn't exactly got much coverage but it might prove worth it when you do over double the damage a regular Giga Drain would do. A phys Seviper has a lot more to work with, like Night Slash, Aqua Tail, Body Slam, Sucker Punch, Poison Jab, X-Scissor, Return, Earthquake and Frustration. Of course it has access to Toxic and Substitute, as does everyone scratch the 4 retards, so maybe that is an option?
That make up for what I missed out on over the past couple of days?
just to edit what i said before i found out it had HP Electric (the stupid calculator said it was HP Bug or something) so I'm probably putting that in.
Leafeon rules. It can be a good phys waller or a phys attacker. Only problems are it's bad SpD and HP and it's pretty limited movepool. Still, STAB Leaf Blade and me go way back so I love giving that to my Leafeon. Aerial Ace, Iron Tail, Seed Bomb and Take Down are all meh, even though it can learn X-Scissor and Return for some more physical power, despite the pretty bad type coverage. If I was using it I'd probably either do standard SD set or do something funny like give it Choice Scarf/Band (probably Scarf) with AA, Leaf Blade, X-Scissor and Return.
Luxray is actually decent. He's just sorta outclassed by Manectric. Sure Lux is a lot bulkier but Manectric's got the Speed, the thing sweepers need. Also Manectric has a decent special movepool, while Lux hasn't even got a decent STAB in his best stat (that's not too much of a setback though, it's Special Attack is close to Manectric's). Luxray should probably be Scarfed with a Naive/Hasty nature and something like Thunderbolt, Superpower, Crunch and Ice/Fire Fang. Signal Beam is a possible choice, as is HP Grass/Fire, that's just up to you.
One thing that annoyed me was that Entei sorta rolled over and died. I mean, it's got great attack, just the movepool's let it down. A bit like the physical Luxray it's best physical STAB is it's elemental Fang, which isn't that great. It's only offensive moves are Giga Impact, Stone Edge, Return, Frustration, Iron Tail, Dig and Iron Head (ruled out the crappy HM ones and all that). Giga Impact, Iron Tail (unless you're willing to put up with the terrible accuracy) and Dig are ruled out, leaving only 5 moves to work with. Of course you're not gonna run Frustration and Return together unless you're mentally insane so that gives you 4 moves to work with. That worth sticking a Choice Band on? Will-O-Wisp is a probably invaluable move that can save your butt loads of times and Toxic works the same way. Or you can go in the polar opposite direction to what I've been talking about and give it a Special set, even though it has just as an inadequate Special movepool as it's physical. Just give it Calm Mind, Eruption/Lava Plume/Fire Blast/Flamethrower/Overheat/Heat Wave (personal choice), Shadow Ball and HP Ground or scratch Calm Mind and give it Choiced with SolarBeam (may stir up some problems, obviously the one turn charge is a downfall. Swift is a more conservative choice).
Finally, the Seviper. I personally think Seviper has a movepool better suited for a physical sweeper. Maybe STAB Sludge Bomb over Giga Drain? I know Poison hasn't exactly got much coverage but it might prove worth it when you do over double the damage a regular Giga Drain would do. A phys Seviper has a lot more to work with, like Night Slash, Aqua Tail, Body Slam, Sucker Punch, Poison Jab, X-Scissor, Return, Earthquake and Frustration. Of course it has access to Toxic and Substitute, as does everyone scratch the 4 retards, so maybe that is an option?
That make up for what I missed out on over the past couple of days?
