Okay, so I stupidly had 4 Pokemon in my team rather than 4 while doing my taps and flips... and although it's a fairly easy delay for me to hit, I'm just wondering for future reference, does one happiness tap advance the iRNG by 8, since 6 pokemon advances it by 12? Or is it completely different?
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Most Generation PRNG Help / Information
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Was wondering since this is where alot of RNG stuff goes on and all sorts of delving into game code happens here, whether anyone knows if the odds for shiny starters have increased in HG/SS.
I ask as we have a member of the shiny club at serebii, who believes the odds might be 1/2730, providing you look at all 3 of them.
Hoping someone here might be able to find out, or even confirm. Thx.
I ask as we have a member of the shiny club at serebii, who believes the odds might be 1/2730, providing you look at all 3 of them.
Hoping someone here might be able to find out, or even confirm. Thx.
Hold on, getting flawless shinies is then based purely on luck too? I'm attempting to find seeds for flawless shinies, but would you recommend that I not waste my time then because it's impossible, that it probably does not exist with my ID/SID combination?
Also, I noticed that there are IV spreads posted on the first page. I reason that this means that ANY file, with any ID/SID combination can obtain such IV combinations?
Why hex flawless? If it's going to use the Attack Stat, then screw the SAtk Stat. You're not going to use it anyway. At least that's what I do to get easier spreads. Also, set the HP,Def, SDef to greater than or equal to 30. I'ts just one point.
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got my mespirit, so I guess that was the way to figure it!
One other question, how does changing the year adjust the delay value? From what I've exprienced, it seems going back a year increases delay by 1, and going forwards one year reduces it by 1. Is this happening to everyone else? Also, is there a way to increase it more, past going back to year 1999?
Also, for my case, I want a spread that has its delay at 590, but my delay range is in between 620 and 660. The year is 2009, meaning I can only increase delay by 10 points. Does this mean I'm screwed? (The dealy could ideally reach 600 if i set the year back to 1999 on RNG reporter, whereas my lowest delay value is 620.)
Also, for my case, I want a spread that has its delay at 590, but my delay range is in between 620 and 660. The year is 2009, meaning I can only increase delay by 10 points. Does this mean I'm screwed? (The dealy could ideally reach 600 if i set the year back to 1999 on RNG reporter, whereas my lowest delay value is 620.)
Mash your buttons just a hair slower or use emloop. Yes that is normal. I'd just abandon the spread for a better one myself cuz I'm lazy though. XD
Ok. I have a target frame of 37. I have no wandering pokemon and i need to fish the pokemon. So 37-4=33 then -5 from 128 steps. 33-5=28. Then i do 14 journal flips. I keep on getting a wishcash at eterna city. Is it random because I want to get a gyardos, but i got wishcash two times already. Plz help me?
I'm finally going to try D/P/Pt Egg IV abuse and have a few questions:
1. Where exactly does the IRNG abuse come into play for IV abuse (not for shinies)? I don't see it anywhere under the "How to Hatch Perfect Pokémon" section, but I know I saw Bearsfan092 use it in his YouTube video. Is this how you can get the desired nature/gender/ability without having to totally fluke it?
2. The frame calibration phase is something that needs to be done for EVERY egg project, not just for the first one like the initial calibration phase, right?
3. At what points during this process do I need to hit my correct seconds/delay? Is it only when I know my target frame (after the frame calibration phase) and am SRing to advance the frame and collect the egg ASAP?
4. About how often do the NPCs screw up your results after frame calibrating, finding my target frame, and hitting my correct seconds/delay?
Thanks so much to anyone who can help!
1. Where exactly does the IRNG abuse come into play for IV abuse (not for shinies)? I don't see it anywhere under the "How to Hatch Perfect Pokémon" section, but I know I saw Bearsfan092 use it in his YouTube video. Is this how you can get the desired nature/gender/ability without having to totally fluke it?
2. The frame calibration phase is something that needs to be done for EVERY egg project, not just for the first one like the initial calibration phase, right?
3. At what points during this process do I need to hit my correct seconds/delay? Is it only when I know my target frame (after the frame calibration phase) and am SRing to advance the frame and collect the egg ASAP?
4. About how often do the NPCs screw up your results after frame calibrating, finding my target frame, and hitting my correct seconds/delay?
Thanks so much to anyone who can help!
It isn't random, right click the spread you're trying to hit on the frame you're going for and click "encounter codes". Then click the link to the encounter codes of the game your on and go to the fishing section of the route/town you are at. After that, check the fishing(with the rod you're using) and see what encounter code it has there, it probably is a whiscash one, if so, go for a different frame.
Ok, trying to get a hang of this RNG thing...
I read through the OP like a hundred times before I decided to give it a shot, but I have 2 questions about the calibration phase ...
1- After I found out my delay range (618-628), and the time ( 14 seconds), I attempted to hit the target time and I used the 'simple seed generator' to generate a seed in order to verify. It requires 2 fields, the target time, which was no problem, and one delay, which is my problem, I can only hit a range of delays but getting an exact value is a bit difficult, and you have to input a single value. So should I just leave the delay space empty or will it affect my results?
2- After trying to hit the target time many times and verifying it each time using the coin flip trick, I could only get up to 7 correct coin tosses, and when I catch a pokemon to obtain the seed, it almost matches the generated seed but differing only in the last 1 or 2 digits. So is getting around 7 matching coin tosses enough to proceed or do I have to get a perfect match?
I read through the OP like a hundred times before I decided to give it a shot, but I have 2 questions about the calibration phase ...
1- After I found out my delay range (618-628), and the time ( 14 seconds), I attempted to hit the target time and I used the 'simple seed generator' to generate a seed in order to verify. It requires 2 fields, the target time, which was no problem, and one delay, which is my problem, I can only hit a range of delays but getting an exact value is a bit difficult, and you have to input a single value. So should I just leave the delay space empty or will it affect my results?
2- After trying to hit the target time many times and verifying it each time using the coin flip trick, I could only get up to 7 correct coin tosses, and when I catch a pokemon to obtain the seed, it almost matches the generated seed but differing only in the last 1 or 2 digits. So is getting around 7 matching coin tosses enough to proceed or do I have to get a perfect match?
1. Not sure why are you using the simple seed generator. It's really not necessary for any aspect of RNG abuse.
2. You need a perfect match.
I used the 'simple seed generator' because it wasn't specified which method to use in the OP:
I assumed you meant the 'simple seed generator because you said both the target time and delay are used to generate the initial seed, 'Find initial seed by stat' and 'Find initial seed by IV' both don't involve you inputting the delay, that's why i chose the simple seed...
Anyways which is the best method for obtaining my initial seed?
Thanks for the help...
I'm trying to hit this spread: 52140289, Frame 116: 31/31/31/31/31/31 (Mixed) but when I input the data into the RNG reporter, it only gives me a delay of 640, while my usual delays are around 630. Is there a way to adjust my delay to match the one reported in the RNG reporter? Thanks in advance.
Go to seed to time. Change the year up 10 to lower the delay by 10. This forces you to have pokemon of weird dates or you can wait longer and try to hit the delay.
Ah, I will see if I can clear this up in the OP, but the thought is that if you have gone through calibration (in the common information section) phases you will know what to do when subsequent parts of the document say to "find your initial seed". Additionally the text on that screen says "If you are looking for your initial seed you may ignore this tab completely".
To answer the question, though, go catch a Pokemon and enter it's stats into the "DPPt Seed Finder" on the "Find Initial Seed by Stats" tab.
EDIT: I see you were actually in the calibration phase, so I will see what I can do to clarify that.
I've already done that, let me clarify exactly where I'm at atm...
What I've done:
1- Synched the DS clock with an outside clock...
2- Attempted to obtain my 'seconds' and delay range by catching a high lvl pokemon and entering its stats in the "Find Initial Seed by Stats" tab.
3-After obtaining those 2 variables, I moved on to the 'hitting the target time' and 'verifying your target time' sections in your OPWhere I got confused:
- So from what I understand this is where I check that my 'seconds' and delays are accurate enough to hit a target time.
First of all where do I get the target time from, just choose any random time?
Where do I get the initial seed to use to generate the coin toss results?
Should I input the target time somewhere in the RNG reporter to get that initial seed?
I couldn't find the answer to those questions anywhere in those sections...
No one responded to this, and I still have yet to figure it out....?
It is a common error that occurs from a human error or something else. For the frames, type in 0 for both, which I think you said you already do, and for the delay, manually type both, don't use either default.
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Does anyone know why we can't change the date past 2000? Why does it have to be greater than 1999?
I found the particular spread in year 2009, btw;
I NEED to increase the delay from what I currently have assigned, which is like 590, to my delay range, 620-640, but the most it can be increased is up to 600 (because the combination was for 2009). For anyone interested, it's a shiny modest spread, IVs 27/29/28/31/31/31 (for method J). I REALLY want this, but for the life of me can't get a delay of 600.
Also, if I keep doing searches on higher delay values through time finder, would it be possible to find this spread on a higer delay? I've noticed some IV/nature and hidden power combinations keep repeating exactly the same, just with different seeds on different delay ranges. But I have yet to find that awesome combination mentioned earlier on a higher delay. T.T
I found the particular spread in year 2009, btw;
I NEED to increase the delay from what I currently have assigned, which is like 590, to my delay range, 620-640, but the most it can be increased is up to 600 (because the combination was for 2009). For anyone interested, it's a shiny modest spread, IVs 27/29/28/31/31/31 (for method J). I REALLY want this, but for the life of me can't get a delay of 600.
Also, if I keep doing searches on higher delay values through time finder, would it be possible to find this spread on a higer delay? I've noticed some IV/nature and hidden power combinations keep repeating exactly the same, just with different seeds on different delay ranges. But I have yet to find that awesome combination mentioned earlier on a higher delay. T.T
DS clock time is restricted to the years 2000 to 2099, so you're out of luck for the seed you've found.
There should be other seeds with your target spread with different (mostly higher) delays/frames that you might be able to hit (use open search in the seed finder), even if it means learning to use high delays.
This guide (and the one in the post below it) should help if you need help figuring out how to time high delays correctly: http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1907765#post1907765
So if I use open search in seed finder and find a seed for that target spread, can't I still adjust delay to match my range (by increasing year), like how it's possible through time finder?
Also, how do I use open search to find the spread as shiny? The spread I was targeting was a shiny spread, but there's no option anywhere, atleast where I can see, to find shiny seeds...
You can, but you may be stuck with something that has something like 800 delay in 2099 (the highest year the DS clock can reach). That's when the high delay guide would come in handy.