rate . any suggs ?

inumika

Uhm , Not much to say .. but, LETS GET STARTED !



Taunting / Early Sweeper / Lure For T-Bolt
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Gyrados @ Leftovers
Abillity: Intimidate
EVs: HP 123, Atk 55, Def 80, Spd 252
Nature: Jolly(+spd , - spatk)
Moves:
-Dragon Dance
-Taunt
-Waterfall
-Stone Edge.

Basically what this gyarados does , is to stop Stealth rocks . and for gyarados , its simple with taunt . then i start dragon dancing , scaring it away , into it goes into something that will , and i know will , t bolt . then i switch away into Jolteon . if he switches into anything else , they will take a +X waterfall to the face . It also has bulk , so I can take some damage , then return some waterfalls .

EDIT: i'm thinking of switching this guy for azelf , that means i need a new sweeper , and it has to replace one of the pokemon below

The Physical Wall(ish) / rapid spin-entry hazarder

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Forretress @ leftovers
Abillity: Sturdy
EVs: 252 hp , 192 def , 64 spdef
Nature: Impish (+ def, - spatk)
Moves:
-Explosion
-rapid spin
-Spikes/Toxic Spikes ?
-Stealth rocks

Ahh , my physical wall(sort of) . It will soak up SOME physical damage , and it has only 1 weakness : fire . my heatran can absorb that , so it can take ANY physical move that hasn't been boosted by Swords Dance and whatnot . But More Importantly , it will setup my entry hazards and rapid spin their entry hazards away . and , (last resort) if someone tries to setup on me , (eg: latias , gyarados , Salamence ect) i explode , ruining their chances to sweep, or completely obliterating their swepper. EDIT: toxic spikes may be better in situations .

The Special(and part physical) Sponge / Dancer
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Cresselia @ Leftovers
Abillity: Levitate
EVs: 252 HP , 252 Spdef, 6 def
Nature: Calm (+ spdef , -atk)
Moves:
-Charge Beam/Moonlight?
-Thunder Wave/Moonlight
-Lunar Dance
-Psychic

Ahh yes .. Cress, Which , in my point of view, is totally underated everyone seems to choose other special walls, such as Blissey . But Cress has Got a few things over Blissey :
1: Better SpAtk
2: STAB'D Psychic.
3: Has "Levitate" as its move
4: And , It has its all famous move : LUNAR DANCE !

Now , let me explain my moveset . This Cress's Ideal job now , is to wear down the opponent . T-Wave is for my lack of status ailments on this team , and i'm pretty sure it will help my team in the long run . Lunar dance will be my suicide technique, then heal a sweeper that can revenge kill the current pokemon out . Psychic is for obvious STAB , and Charge beam is for SpAtk raises for more powerful psychics. But the thing is , i decide i want to put moonlight somewhere . Someone please help me decide if i need it .

My Revenge-Killing-bastard-who-shows-no-mercy-to-the-Low-Hp'd

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Heatran @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Flash Fire
EVs: 6 HP, 252 Spd, 252 Spatk
Natures:Rash(+spatk -Spdef)
Moves:
-Dragon Pulse
-Earth Power
-Flame thrower
-EXPLOSION !

Basically , your standard heatran , and if i do say so myself , fits into my team perfectly. it covers my fire type weakness from heatran . and my cress/gyrados take the EQs that threaten my heatran . Flamethrower was chosen over fireblast , because fireblast is too inaccurate , and this heatran is supposed to finish pokemon off , not OVERKILL them . Dragon Pulse and Earth Power is for coverage , and explosions is for when my heatran is weak , and to stop obvious sweepers from .. well , sweeping .

My Special Sweeper / Anti Swampert and Dugtrio.
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Jolteon @ Life Orb
Abillity : Volt Absorb
EVs: 252 spatk, 252 spd, 6 hp
Nature: Timid
Moves:
-Thunder Bolt
-Shadow Ball
-Signal Beam
-Hidden Power[GRASS]

And this , really changes why this team stands out from the rest of my other teams. All of my other ones had one weakness . and that was SWAMPERT. Swampert , i swear to god , was one of the most annoyingst things in OU . They think they can KO this Jolteon , then i HP GRASS them . and to boot , It will kill dugtrio , if it is banded . Other than that , it's pretty standard . t-bolt for stab , shadow ball for ghost/psychic , signal beam for dark/psychic .

The *STAR* of this team / Physical sweep.
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Weavile @ CHOICE BAND
Abillity: Pressure
EVs:252 Atk , 252 Spd
Nature: Adamant
Moves:
-Low kick
-Pursuit
-Night Slash
-ICE SHARD

Now , THIS , is what ties this team together . You guys may think *choice band* is a gay item for weavile , and I should use life orb . Sure, Life orb may be better , and you guys might agree . depends on the people who RMT and what they think so, and not to mention CB PWNS . So , The reason I chose my Weavile to be adamant instead of jolly was because weavile's Main attack , would be , You guessed it , STABBED Priority ice shard . it RIPS through any type of dragon , OHKOING them . Then , Pursuit to switch-into a ghost thinking they can escape , Nightslash for second STAB'D move for more bulkier things , and low kick for normals , rocks, steels / heavy things . EDIT : The reason ive chosen Low kick over brick break was I had a fear of not killing blissey . Blissey is one of my weaknesses , and apparently both will 2HKO either way , so ive chosen Low kick . ( not to mention it OHKO'S Snorlax)

And.. that is my team . It flows smoothly , and has won me countless games , but it has lost , that's why i want YOU . to RMT . and help me fix it up to make it even better .
 
1. With a Rapid Spinner present, I would recommend that you swap Gyarados to a faster pokemon, prefferably to set up SR and use Taunt (other order of course), yet still be able to attack.
---http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/azelf (1st one)
---http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/swampert (1st one)
------Yeah, not a Taunter, but with a Rapid Spinner, is it necessary?
2. This will allow you to run Rapid Spin, Spikes, and Toxic Spikes all together on Forretress. Forretress should not usually run SR.
3. Your grammar is off. Could you please correct it? It's hard to read like it is as of this post.

EDIT: Oh, and welcome to Smogon.
 
Your format is kind of hard to read. EVs should be listed horizontally and Moves should be listed vertically. I suggest you make those changes if you want more people to rate your team. Look at other people's RMTs to see how they are done.

Anyways, it's pointless to use a Dual Screen Cresselia if you don't have a set-up sweeper. Things like Swords Dance Lucario and Dragon Dance Salamence want dual screens to decrease the damage they take while they boost their stats.
You don't have any stat boosters on your team except for Gyarados, but Gyarados is your lead.

If you want to take full advantage of Dual Screens, make Weavile a Swords Dancer (with Swords Dance over X-Scissor because X-Scissor is useless).
 
Aura: The reason I Dont use azelf is because I:
1: Won't Be able to lure t bolts.
2: I won't be able to setup a sweep . ( my Gyarados DDs)
3: Although .. i do like swampert on my team..

Aragorn: My Gyarados sweeps. It doesnt usually get OHKO'D. I Lure the thunderbolt into my Jolteon. But now that I relook it , I may not like the screens . i may remove them . (cresselia .)

Sheshi:My heatran's focus is to revenge kill , Not Obliterate leads.
 
If you use Toxic Spikes on Forretress, numerous pokemon (Porygon2, a threat to your Gyardos lead sweep; Blissey, to be forced to switch if it doesn't have aromatherapy), will be severely weakened.
You may wish to consider Fire Blast on Heatran for more OOMPH to the attack. It's risk vs reward, there.

EDIT: Also, Gyarados, in normal play, can find many setup oppoertunities if you play it well enough.
 
Hmm . that could be an assist , i just hate the fact that steels dont get affected . and I have a problem with my team . I think i need a Pokemon to do a Status Ailment . any suggesstions prior to this ?
 
X-scissor on weavile offers redundant coverage because ice and dark already hit the same types bug does. Pursuit is always good for catching fleeing ghost and psychics. Low Kick may be better than brick break as it hits heavier steels harder unless blissey is an issue for you then you should stick with brick break
 
inumika said:
JarardoMartino: great suggestion . but which one's better ? low kick or pursuit ?
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Well you absolutely need low kick or brick break but certainly don't have both. the set would be something like this
Weavile @ CHOICE BAND
Abillity: Pressure
EVs:252 Atk , 252 Spd
Nature: Adamant
Moves:
-Brick Break/low kick
-Pursuit
-Night Slash
-ICE SHARD
 
like fink's post above, i was thinking pursuit over x-scissor and lowkick over bricke break. Srry if i didn't word it clearer the first time
 
Fink said:
Well you absolutely need low kick or brick break but certainly don't have both. the set would be something like this
Weavile @ CHOICE BAND
Abillity: Pressure
EVs:252 Atk , 252 Spd
Nature: Adamant
Moves:
-Brick Break/low kick
-Pursuit
-Night Slash
-ICE SHARD
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JarardoMartino said:
like fink's post above, i was thinking pursuit over x-scissor and lowkick over bricke break. Srry if i didn't word it clearer the first time
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I , have a Huge Weakness to blissey with low kick then . the only chance i'm going to beat one is to:
1: either explode with scarf heatran , or explode with forretress
2: Setup at least 2 DDs with Gyarados . (and if i get twaved , the sweep fails)
 
I , have a Huge Weakness to blissey with low kick then . the only chance i'm going to beat one is to:
1: either explode with scarf heatran , or explode with forretress
2: Setup at least 2 DDs with Gyarados . (and if i get twaved , the sweep fails)
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That's not true - CB Low Kick still easily 2HKO's 0/252 Calm Blissey dealing an average of 61%. Brick Break only does 76% on average so you're really not losing out on all that especially when you consider the obvious superiority of Low Kick almost everywhere else. Check out this post for a handful of calculations -

http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2201494//lpost2201494
 
Lee said:
That's not true - CB Low Kick still easily 2HKO's 0/252 Calm Blissey dealing an average of 61%. Brick Break only does 76% on average so you're really not losing out on all that especially when you consider the obvious superiority of Low Kick almost everywhere else. Check out this post for a handful of calculations -

http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2201494//lpost2201494
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O: . thanks man . alright . permanently getting rid of brick break for low kick.
 
Mosst of your pokemon are either fast or stat-uppers or don't care about being fast. I reccomend you drop Thunder Wave on your Cresselia if you want Moonlight, but Tyranitar, Hippowdon, Abomasnow, and any Rain Dancer will destroy Moonlight. I would say that you may wish to consider a Sunny Day user, but that would be counterproductive with Gyarados, Forretress, and Weavile, though it would help your Heatran.
 
Aura Guardian said:
Mosst of your pokemon are either fast or stat-uppers or don't care about being fast. I reccomend you drop Thunder Wave on your Cresselia if you want Moonlight, but Tyranitar, Hippowdon, Abomasnow, and any Rain Dancer will destroy Moonlight. I would say that you may wish to consider a Sunny Day user, but that would be counterproductive with Gyarados, Forretress, and Weavile, though it would help your Heatran.
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yeah , i was thinking about that too , but i need to find a sunny day'er , and i'll have to switch toxic spikes with regular spikes.
 
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