first UU team (infact my first team ever)

[vouslavous]

this is the first team i have ever made so its not perfect, please offer what advice you can to help me improve it


1. FROSLASS
nature - timid
ability - snow cloak
item - focus sash
EVs - 252 SpA 252 Spe 4 def 2HP

-spikes
-destiny bond
-ice beam
-taunt

frosslass is my lead, basically i use him to start the game off with taunt to prevent early game spikes/stealths, i also will get down 1 or 2 spike layers with him in the beginning, the focus sash allows me to get an occasional free kill with destiny bond (although this doesn't always work). ice beam i have for the hell of it, makes a nice stab move, although he really doesn't do much attacking.

2. LANTURN
nature - calm
ability - volt absorb
item - leftovers
EVs - 42HP 76 DEF 140 SpA 252 SpD

-ice beam
-surf
-thunderwave
-thunderbolt

a standard lanturn, but has proven me useful quite a few times. the water/elec combo works at very well in many situations, it also covers a wide range of pokemon, as you can tell he is slightly more defense then offence with regards to EVs, if this is a good thing i dont know. ice beam is for the occasional grass type that comes in thinking to get a freebee on him. one last thing about him is volt-absorb ability is quite useful (and comical) because i still get kids who use elec moves on him, only to be feeding him

3. HOUNDOOM
nature - timid
ability - flashfire
item - life orb
EVs - 252 Spe 252 SpA 6HP

- nasty plot
- dark pulse
- fire blast
- HP (flying)

i choose this pokemon originally because i needed fire coverage, i was gonna go with the typical infernape but when i saw the damage this thing was capable of i had to choose it, i always start it off with a nasty plot to add to its all ready ridiculous SpA, dark pulse is a nice stab dark move that does excellent damage to most anything, i could of went with Fthrower of blast but seeing how much damage fireblast does against a blissey i had to choose it. HP flying is for is the switch in a fighter pokemon since that is his weakness

4. BRONZONG
nature - sassy
ability - levitate
item - occa berry
EVs - 252 HP 86 ATK 80 DEF 92 SpD

- stealth rock
- gryo ball
- earthquake
- explosion

bronzong makes a pretty good wall type pokemon, his only 2 weaknesses are ground and fire, grounds dont work on him due to levitate, and the occa berry weakens super effective fire moves so he is pretty strong wall, stealth rock is self explanatory, gyro ball makes a nice stab move and since he has a low speed gyro ball does even more dmg. earthquake is decent for most situations, i mainly have it as a second option if gyro isnt working, explosion is for when they throw a pokemon that i can seem to get rid of (milotic, blissy etc) it normally deals with them.

5. PORYGON Z
nature - modest
ability - adaptability
item - choice specs
EVs - 2 HP 4 DEF 252 Spe 252 SpA

- tri attack
- dark pulse
- ice beam
- HP (ground)

this is one of my best and favorites, his high SpA and Spe allow it to deal incredible damage while most of the time moving first. whats great about him is his moveset covers almost all pokemon, choice specs give him a nice boost in SpA but you have to switch him out if you wanna change moves. he is essentially a speedy special sweeper, he jumps in does a big chunk of dmg. then switches out.

6. CLOYSTER ( might switch for lucario or gallade, think i should?)
nature - relaxed
ability - shell armor
item wancan berry
EVs - 252 HP 6 SpA 252 SpD

-ice beam
-rapid spin
-surf
-toxic spikes

i mainly have him for some toxic spikes and clearing my side of spikes and rocks, nothing to special about him, his spread makes him an average SpD wall, even though he is weak against quite a few things, again im probably switching for gallade or lucario as i need a fighting type on my team.

thanks for reading please leave feedback on my team with advice on how i can improve them. this is my first team ever so i imagine its not perfect. thanks again.

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

A team with a lot of UU Pokémon generally performs better in UU than OU. The only reason I knew this was for UU was that I saw it had been moved to here. With Bronzong, an OU Pokémon, you are not allowed to battle in UU. If one Pokémon on the team is OU, the whole team is considered an OU team.

I would replace Bronzong with Claydol and run the "Utility" set in the analysis, as it does the same job that Bronzong does, while being allowed in UU.

Porygon-Z was also recently voted BL, meaning it is no longer allowed in UU. Since he is meant to be a special sweeper, I recommend Alakazam or Raikou going in that slot. One gives you three dark/ghost weaknesses, and the other gives you three ground weaknesses, so it's not a perfect replacement.

Also, the two choices you are thinking about replacing Cloyster with are OU or BL. Hitmonlee is a solid choice for a sweeping Fighting-type in UU.

 

[Delko]

Hello

A pokemon can have at least 4 EV's so those 2 HP EV's on Froslass wont do anything.

You could go with Discharge on Lanturn so you have a replacement for both Thunderbolt and Thunderwave. Toxic, Confuse Ray or Heal Bell will make nice replacement for one of those two.

Bronzong isn't UU unfortunatly. So if you want a decent UU steel type I can suggest Steelix. He can do the same job as Bronzong.

Steelix @ leftovers/ careful (or sassy if you go with Gyro Ball)/ sturdy
252 HP/80 Def/176 SDef

- Stealth Rock
- Roar
- Earthquake/ Gyro Ball
- Exlosion/ Stone Edge

--> His moveset is also identical but with Roar you have yourself a decent Phazer, which can always comes in handy.

About your idea to trade Cloyster to either Galade or Lucario isn't an option since they are OU, and since you clarified this as a UU team, they will not be allowed.

Hope this helped and good luck with the rest of the team.

 

[Enygma]

Hiya!

This team is definitely weak to DD Mence and Gyara. These 2 can come ine on most of your team and have +1. With +1, they practically outspeed your entire team. To remedy this, I will suggest a Scarf over Specs on Porygon-Z. With a Scarf, it can revenge those mentioned threats. Heck, you can test out Scarf Latias over Scarf Z, too. Or if you want, Ice Shard over Ice Beam will help against Mence.

Good luck in OU!

 

[Abutorn]

Hiya!

This team is definitely weak to DD Mence and Gyara. These 2 can come ine on most of your team and have +1. With +1, they practically outspeed your entire team. To remedy this, I will suggest a Scarf over Specs on Porygon-Z. With a Scarf, it can revenge those mentioned threats. Heck, you can test out Scarf Latias over Scarf Z, too. Or if you want, Ice Shard over Ice Beam will help against Mence.

Good luck in OU!

Misa, this team would definitly be weak to DD Mence and DD Gyara, but the sad part is that this team is UU, and Salamence and Gyarados is OU.

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

Misa, this team would definitly be weak to DD Mence and DD Gyara, but the sad part is that this team is UU, and Salamence and Gyarados is OU.

Actually, this team was only meant to be UU. As long as Bronzong is in there, it's OU.

 

[vouslavous]

alright the truth is i didnt know exactly how the brackets worked until now, i basically want to keep porygon -z, and use bronzong so in that case i would want to stay in OU, so then now my question is what changes do i have to make to make this playable in OU. also if im playing in the OU bracket are you allowed to use BL,UU and unders in it?

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

alright the truth is i didnt know exactly how the brackets worked until now, i basically want to keep porygon -z, and use bronzong so in that case i would want to stay in OU, so then now my question is what changes do i have to make to make this playable in OU. also if im playing in the OU bracket are you allowed to use BL,UU and unders in it?

Here's how the tiers work.

Only NU Pokemon are allowed in NU. NU and UU Pokémon are allowed in UU. NU, UU, BL, and OU Pokémon are allowed in OU. Finally, any Pokémon is allowed in Ubers.

The changes to make this into a viable OU team are too big for me to help with; I'm not that experienced yet.

 

[vouslavous]

thanks, to be quite honest this team doesnt do to bad in OU matches (i play on the shoddybattle program) there are a few reccuring pokemon that give me trouble (heatran and tyranitar)

 

[Adeku]

When making a RMT make sure you add Sprites make it more appealing. Also you should post this in Other Team section. This is a UU team. And this is OU section.

 

[Delko]

Also you should post this in Other Team section. This is a UU team. And this is OU section.

alright the truth is i didnt know exactly how the brackets worked until now, i basically want to keep porygon -z, and use bronzong so in that case i would want to stay in OU, so then now my question is what changes do i have to make to make this playable in OU. also if im playing in the OU bracket are you allowed to use BL,UU and unders in it?

Okay to make this team able to work in OU there needs to be some adjustments. Mostly just UU pokemon that can be replaced by OU pokemon who are better at the given job. I'll try to make my suggestion in a way that the synergy of the team doesn't get compremised.

My first suggestion will be Heatran over Houndoom. Although you could also go with Infernape if you want to keep your Nasty Plot sweeper. But Heatran is prefered for his ability to resist and absorb Fire type moves. And he doesn't need to have a special attack boost to become dangerous as he already has a base special attack of 130. Although Houndoom is faster then Heatran, Heatran is bulkier and could take more hits this way. Since you where using the Life Orb sweeper set on Houndoom I would like to continou this set on Heatran, as he makes a decent Life Orb sweeper himself.

Heatran @ life orb/ Naive/ flash fire
4 Atk / 252 SpA / 252 Spe

- Fire Blast
- Earth Power
- Explosion
- Hidden Power (electric)

--> This is your basic Life Orb sweeping Heatran set. Fire Blast will be your main move. After a Flash Fire boost it is sure to dent things that aren't resisted. If you want more Accuracy and PP then Flamethrower is an option as well. Just keep in mind that the drop in power will matter sometimes. Earth Power is for coverage. Opposing Heatran are likely to switch in on the predicted Fire Blast only to be OHKO'ed by Earth Power. Of course Heatran is walled by pokemon who resist his main moves (special walls like Blissey, Latias). That where Explosion come in handy as it will take them both out. Of course you can also go with Taunt or Toxic in this set to cause some status on your opponent's team. The last move will help you deal with Gyarados, one of the main switch-ins on Heatran. You outspeed Adamant version (which most are) so you can hit him hard with a 4 times effective moves.

About Froslass, she is okay is OU but I wouldn't use it as a lead as there are a lot of weather leads there so you Focus Sash will not be very effective. I suggest you take her out and replace her with an ideal revenge killer under the name of Latias. Latias can be your counter to DD-mence and Infernape as well as being a secondary counter against Gyarados. I'll suggest a different lead later.

Latias @ choice scarf/ timid/ levitate
6 HP, 252 Spe, 252 SAtk

- Thunderbolt
- Draco Meteor
- Surf
- Trick

--> With a Choice Scarf and a Timid nature Latias can outspeed both +1 Salamence and +1 Gyarados and OHKO with Draco Meteor and Thunderbolt respectively. Surf Deals with Infernape, a pokemon you might experience some difficulties as well and it also your best shot at Tyranitar who might come in and trap you. With Trick you can screw over special walls like Blissey so they will not be a problem much more. And without the Scarf you get the freedom of swapping your moves throughout the battle without switching out after every move.

Okay, next up is Lanturn. Seeing you are using him as a defensive pokemon (which you should) and consider an OU pokemon with almost the same typing that could do the same job. Of course I'm talking about Rotom-a. If I were you I'll go with the heater version as he provides a decent counter to the likes of Lucario and Scizor, 2 pokemon that could pose a rather big threat in OU. So my suggest here is Rotom-h.

Rotom-h @ leftovers/ bold/ levitate
252 HP, 68 Def, 188 Spe

- Will-o-wisp
- Overheat
- Shadow Ball
- Thunderbolt

--> As I said before Rotom-h provides your team with a decent counter to both Scizor and Lucario (and of course Metagross as well). Will-o-wisp is a nice move to have and it will cripple Rotom-h's numer one switch-in: Tyranitar. It's always nice to burn Physical sweepers as it leaves them rather useless the rest of the match. Overheat will be your hit-and-run move against Lucario and the likes. With 188 Spe EV's you will outspeed Lucario so you could take him out before being hit by a +2 Crunch. Shadow Ball is your STAB move against the likes of Latias and opposing Rotom-a. While Thunderbolt hits opposing Water types hard.

Cloyster is up next. Every decent team carries a Bulky Water pokemon in it so yours should be no different. Seeing Cloyster is UU you are better of by replacing him with an OU pokemon. You have two options here. You can either go with Suicune or Vaporeon. Both are 2 of the best Bulky Waters in OU. But each can apply a different strategy. I suggest Vaporeon however as he can give your team not only Wish Support but also a status healing move under the name of Heal Bell.

Vaporeon @ leftover/ bold/ water absorb
188 HP / 252 Def / 68 Spe

- Surf
- Wish
- Protect
- Heal Bell

--> Vaporeon makes a great member of your team as he provides it with Wish support and Heal Bell. Of course this way you will only have one attack move called Surf so if you feel you don't need Heal Bell that often you coul trade it to Ice Beam/ Hidden Power (electric) or Toxic.

Last but not least we have Bronzong. I suggest switching him to Metagross and use him in the lead possition. Basicly because your team lacks a good pokemon to lead with now that Froslass has been taken out and Metagross outclasses Bronzong when used as a lead. Metagross in the lead position will give your team a bulky pokemon that could set up Stealth Rock most of the time and that could hit opposing leads fairly hard as well.

Metagross @ occa berry/ adamant/ clear body
252 HP, 236 Atk, 12 Def, 8 Spe

- Stealth Rock
- Meteor Mash
- Bullet Punch
- Earthquake

--> Your standard lead Metagross. Stealth Rock is set up most of the time. After that a combination of Meteor Mash/ Earthquake + Bullet Punch will take out frailer leads (Azelf, Earodactyl, ...). Of course Metagross can come in later during the match against to hit things that could be throublesome. Occa Berry is the prefered item so you wont get raped by Heatran and Infernape although you could also use Lum Berry to protect you against Sleep Inducing leads like Roserade. You don't need to worry about the Ground weakness as two of the previous suggestions are both blessed with Levitate (Rotom-h and Latias).

Hope these suggestions help and good luck with the team.

 

[vouslavous]

thank you very much for the advice Delko i like how you used the roles of my previous team and kept its tactic so to say but just updated the pokemon. i might play around with other options as well (like you said infernape vs heatran) to see which works best for me. i do like that you found me a decent lead because like you said froslass wasent the best leader. thanks again i greatly appreciate it