Well, yeah, I don't think they'll give access to all regions. I actually doubt that a DS game pak could hold it all and still run well. Also, Nintendo said there will be a "shocking" announcement on the 15th or something. I would actually really appreciate some of the pathetically weak Pokemon evolving into crazy sweet stuff. Like Dunsparce evolving into something nuts.
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Pokemon Black & White, aka Gen 5. Coming to Japan in Fall 2010.
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I'm hoping for a tournament style championship rather than the Elite Four (like in the anime), where you battle other trainers like you to be crowned the winner. It'd be more interesting and different because you wouldn't know who you would get and it'd be a different experience each time, giving it replayability. Then, they could throw the elite four in there afterwards, like you have to go to a special mountain and climb to the top to battle them or something.
Whatever they do, I hope they provide trainers with full teams, just like the main character, to battle throughout the story. The whole point is that you are rising to the top of a world full of trainers, but most of the trainers you battle seem like hobbyists (they only have like 2 pokemon each) rather than serious trainers. By adding more trainers like this, it would also show the feel of uniqueness of each trainer like in the anime; that everyone has a different team based on their personality. Think a bunch of trainers that have teams like your rival, but differ depending on where they are from and their personality.
Whatever they do, I hope they provide trainers with full teams, just like the main character, to battle throughout the story. The whole point is that you are rising to the top of a world full of trainers, but most of the trainers you battle seem like hobbyists (they only have like 2 pokemon each) rather than serious trainers. By adding more trainers like this, it would also show the feel of uniqueness of each trainer like in the anime; that everyone has a different team based on their personality. Think a bunch of trainers that have teams like your rival, but differ depending on where they are from and their personality.
It seems like the translator for HG/SS even realizes how useless Pachirisu is.
"It's another pokemon with electric sacs in its cheeks..."
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"It's another pokemon with electric sacs in its cheeks..."
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or they make the BST increase at a slower rate so it doesn't add up to something Uber tier.
Something that might do well (dunno if it's been posted yet) is convergent evolution. Let Espeon and Umbreon evolve into, say, Duskeon, a Psychic/Dark type, under the same conditions that Eevee would evolve into the other (oh, a Hitmon evo of both Hitmontop and/or Hitmonlee and/or Hitmonchan, perhaps?). This would single-handedly change the game. Pokemon with more mutually exclusive moves to learn, for example.
Just come up with a cool prediction, that would certainly fit the 'shocking' thing.
In the anime/movie (not exactly sure which episode/movie), there was a brief shot of Mewtwo in a big city.
The preview screenshots of BW have shown a big city.
Could they be the same city. The city Mewtwo roams at night.
Significant and extended plot role for a Pokemon - Mewtwo - , interacting a lot with the player character. That's something we haven't really seen; while there have been Pokemon with plot roles, they've usually seemed secondary to the actions of people. The super-ancient Pokemon's roles in RSE are really related to Teams Aqua and Magma. Similarly with the Dragon Trio and Team Galactic (and specifically Cyrus). We've never yet had a Pokemon "in the driving seat" plotwise. Could that be about to change?
Even a more minor role for Mewtwo would still be a surprise.
In the anime/movie (not exactly sure which episode/movie), there was a brief shot of Mewtwo in a big city.
The preview screenshots of BW have shown a big city.
Could they be the same city. The city Mewtwo roams at night.
Significant and extended plot role for a Pokemon - Mewtwo - , interacting a lot with the player character. That's something we haven't really seen; while there have been Pokemon with plot roles, they've usually seemed secondary to the actions of people. The super-ancient Pokemon's roles in RSE are really related to Teams Aqua and Magma. Similarly with the Dragon Trio and Team Galactic (and specifically Cyrus). We've never yet had a Pokemon "in the driving seat" plotwise. Could that be about to change?
Even a more minor role for Mewtwo would still be a surprise.
I know this is kind of old but I just wanted to put it to rest: http://bit.ly/dCYA7i
"In commemoration of the release of Generation 5, I decided to make this. They are silhouettes of my own made-up Starter Pokemon. It took less than an hour to make (hence the unprofessionalism). XD"
And the reveal: http://bit.ly/94dzO9
I think that could be a direction they're going; it seems that the Celebi event in HG/SS (in which Celebi takes you through time to prevent Giovanni coming back, unless I've misunderstood it) could have been a warm-up for the idea.
I like the idea, I just think at the moment we can't make much from the screenshots simply because Mewtwo has been shown in a city at one point. It would be cool to have Pokemon interact on a more personal level than simply dogfighting mindslaves....=P
Sorry Monkeydude85, the link isn't working for me.
The Mewtwo thing would be cool, and one of the reasons I like GF so much is that they give us stuff like that. It' perfect because it enlightens the seasoned veteran and yet doesn't interfere with a casual/new player, such as the HGSS Celebi event.
That's also why I love the cameo appearances of gym leaders/elite 4/etc, and should be included in generation 5. For example, Maylene in the Celadon diner, Crasher Wake on the bridge near Safari Zone, Jasmine on the beach in Sunyshore, etc. That stuff is awesome!
The Mewtwo thing would be cool, and one of the reasons I like GF so much is that they give us stuff like that. It' perfect because it enlightens the seasoned veteran and yet doesn't interfere with a casual/new player, such as the HGSS Celebi event.
That's also why I love the cameo appearances of gym leaders/elite 4/etc, and should be included in generation 5. For example, Maylene in the Celadon diner, Crasher Wake on the bridge near Safari Zone, Jasmine on the beach in Sunyshore, etc. That stuff is awesome!
same boring format
same minor adjustments
same hype over a really bordeline shitty/acceptable pokémon
fuck generation hype
i withdraw from Pokémon
every game is a new innovative show of graphical functions that takes a step away from the actual SOUL OF POKÉMON.
same minor adjustments
same hype over a really bordeline shitty/acceptable pokémon
fuck generation hype
i withdraw from Pokémon
every game is a new innovative show of graphical functions that takes a step away from the actual SOUL OF POKÉMON.
These new graphics could be awesome, or they could be a disaster.
Let's hope the former happens.
Let's hope the former happens.
I think it'll be more along the lines of a generic town in a Pokémon game, just like Jubilife in DP. It's a big, generic, town. The end.
4 stage evolutions and fusions... nah.
Yeah I still think it'd be cool if all of the Eeveelutions converged into one super 3rd stage eevee... "Supereon"? idk
There's so much potential for it, but unlikely.
I actually thoght it'd be nice if there was a kinda knockout tournament thing, and the winner of that gets to face the Elite Four. It'd be even better if they put some memorale trainers from previous points in the game as opponents.
The format has been practically the same since Gen 1, and you choose to complain now? you should have withdrawn after Gen 2 if the "boring format" is such a problem for you. and what "minor adjustments" are you referring to? we know nothing about the game play yet, so it's impossible to make that claim. unless you're just referring to graphics, in which case, it's the most significant graphical change in the series yet so it's hardly a "minor adjustment" in that sense.
also, what the fuck is the "Soul of Pokemon"? the only thing it could be is the game play/graphics/everything in Gen 1. it's ridiculous to expect the games to remain unchanged from Gen 1. that would be absolutely horrible if nothing changed. on another note, you're pretty much complaining that this game has good graphics (since thats all we know about the game so far), which is also stupid, just so you know. with all the game play changes that make each gen function differently from the last (hold items, abilities, natures, physical/special split), thinking that graphics are the only thing that changes is just plain fucking ridiculous.
I agree, a tournament would be cool. Looking at it theoretically, the Elite 4 would probably be challenged many times a day, so a qualifier would be cool.
Also, the game makes it seem like you and your rival are pretty much the only people trying to get badges, become Champion, etc. It'd be cool to have a few minor characters that you'd get to do side quests with who also are trying to get their badges. It could be a cause for a lot of optional battles, too, so it's not like you have more than one rival.
Also, the game makes it seem like you and your rival are pretty much the only people trying to get badges, become Champion, etc. It'd be cool to have a few minor characters that you'd get to do side quests with who also are trying to get their badges. It could be a cause for a lot of optional battles, too, so it's not like you have more than one rival.
I think everyone got the idea wrong. When I mentioned about fusions, I didn't mean it along the lines of another form of evolution, I ment it as another cool battle mechanic. It can work the same way transform works, ie; it isn't permanent, and the effect wares off when its switches out.
The general idea is this; in order for a pokemon to fuse, it must know the move "fusion". This solves the problem of "oh, their going to have to make all the possible fusions for every pokemon" or "what determines one pokemon being able to fuse over another?" They can make only a small pool of pokemon able to learn the move, in fact, they can make useless and outclassed pokemon, like Ledian or Pidgeot, learn it in order to make them more usable and have a niche.
Heres how it could work in battle (I'll use the Empoleon + Gallede fusion as an example):
-FUCK- switched in Empoleon
Tyranitar used Crunch
its not very effective!
Opponet switched in Vaporeon
Empoleon used Fusion!
Empoleon is glowing!
-FUCK- switched in Gallade
Gallade is fusing with Empoleon!
Galladeon was formed! (after the fusing animation finnishes, we see the Galladeon sprite standing)
In order to make fusions worthwile, their obviously going to be stronger then standard pokemon. The Empoleon and Gallade fusion could have base stats like this:
HP: 110
Atk: 165
Def: 120
Spa: 90
SpD: 145
Spe: 120
Type: Water/Fighting
Ability: *Special Ability exclusive to it*
Potential Moveset:
~ Waterfall
~ Aqua Jet
~ Earthquake
~ Close Combat
~ Stone Edge
~ Thunder punch
The blue moves represent the moves from Empoleon that passed down, and the green ones represent the moves from Gallade. The move fusion doesn't pass down. Now I know what your probably thinking; a 6 slot moveset is ridiculous, and combined with those stats, completely broken, but let me explain. The stats, naturally, are very good, even better then ubers. This bloated increase is nessesary in order to make it worthwhile for using a fusion pokemon. The reason for a 6 slot moveset is because its the only route that makes sense for how to determine what moves the fusion would know. Since both pokemon must know the move Fusion in order to fuse, their are 6 leftover moves when you combine their movesets, thus those 6 pass down.
Now, what determines the IVs, EVs, Item, and Nature the fusion will have?
Simple, they can be passed down from the fusion user. In my above example, the IVs, EVs, Item, and Nature my Empoleon had, will be the ones my Galladeon have.
Incase you guys think this would be too broken, there are costs towards executing it. The obvious one is that it takes two turns to it set it up, and 2 turns is costly in today's metagame. The opponet can switch to a counter when I use fusion with Empoleon, then attack the fusion when I switch Gallade in to complete the set up. The opponet can also bring a phazor in and phaze the fusion out on the 2nd set up turn (switching out the Galladeon will unfuse it, just incase your thinking I can just switch it back in). Also, their ARE hard counters to the fusion example I proposed. The first that comes to mind is Gyarados. If he switches in when empoleon uses fusion, the intimidate drop will stay even when the Gallade is switch in to complete the set up. He Resists both stabes, and can Dragon Dance during the second set up turn, outrun the Galladeon, and use Bounce to KO/force the Galladeon out. Salamence can do the same thing, except use Outrage instead of bounce. And if the opponet KO's your fusion, both Empoleon and Gallade will be fainted, so they essentially killed 2 birds with one stone.
There you have it, I will conclude my presentation by stating that Fusions can be a cool new element to add in pokemon, and it isn't broken or impossible to use in the metagame. I hope you guys will consider implimenting this in the next generation.
Sincerely,
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God fucking damn I got way too carried away when typing this post out, I'll probably go ahead and email it to gamefreak if their arn't fusions in the 5th gen, so I wouldn't have wasted the whole time I took to type this out for nothing.
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