Pokemon Black & White, aka Gen 5. Coming to Japan in Fall 2010.

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I have mixed opinions about breeding for IVs. On one hand its really time consuming, mind numbing, and based on total luck. On the other hand, when you are done and have the Pokemon you want, you feel like you accomplished something, and the Pokemon you bred is special and has value. I spent hours breeding for a Feebas in Emerald that was Bold, and had a 31 in HP, Defense, and Special Defense. I finally got one and still have it today, its on my Diamond Cartridge.
IT took me A LOT more than a few hours to get a Pokemon with 31 in one stat! After a week and a half and 7 boxes of Seedot eggs, I got my first max 31 Sp Attack Seedot. After all the trouble I couldn't take it and almost cried when I had one w/ 29/31/29 Attack and Speed IVs, I just couldn't take any more Seedot and was so happy when I finally got a Seedot that was actually usable.

I agree that it's really full filling getting a great Pokemon....But 50% of the time that great Pokemon never shows up. After a week of getting Groudon over and over and over again, I was forced to live w/ 28 attack and 26 speed.

It's just really bad that IVs are almost pure luck (something I don't have). I see that they are trying to fix it w/ things like the power items....but.....

I also am not the only one w/ IV difficulties. Using that Seedot (After evolved into Shiftry) on Wi-Fi, I realize it takes hits like a champ besides bad defensive stats, 90 HP, and defensive IVs that don't exceed 21. It's focus sash is rarely used, probably because everyone else has IV difficulties as well.

Well I think they wanted to give all of the Deoxys forms the same ability. But really, Pressure is way too common on legendaries and they really need to do something about it. I really hope the cover legendaries for BW have signature abilities that are worth using. Heck, I'd probably be happy with anything that's not Run Away/Illuminat/etc. or Pressure.
I'm not saying it's a good thing (It's gotten from interesting to completely pesky how everything get's it), but I don't completely hate ubers having Pressure. Can you imagine Mewtwo/Palkia w/ something better like Adaptability/Tinted Lens? Because most other abilities would makes ubers even more uber.......

I hate the idea of Noobs firing Roar of Time from 150 Sp Attack, even when it's un-EVd, let alone if Dialga had an ability that actually did something usefull (Pressure isn't completely useless....It just doesn't work on anything that gets it. Not too many Pokemon live long w/ Dialga/Palkia/Weavile on the field. Someone will be KOd before running out of PP. Spiritomb is the only Pokemon who really utalizes it. Being bulky enough to PP stall...Or at least the only Bulky one besides Dialga/Deo-D....But something will be KOd w/ those 2 before Pressure proves it's worth).





I just saw Serebii, and looked into some new Japanese Pokemon episode (2 of my favorite things: Gimmick Pokemon and the color blue, so I couldn't help but look) and 2 Ditto appear in it (Shiny and normal). Apparently...Ditto can remember past battles and transform into Pokemon from those memories. Then I remembered how Ditto could do that in the original comics as well. I think it would be awesome if a mechanic like that was created for Transform: A Pokemon can transform based on memory, as well as what it's facing. Make it so whenever you choose Transform, you have the option of transforming into the enemy, or transforming into a Pokemon the transformer remembers.....Ditto can transform into the enemy T-Tar, or transform into a Gliscor it remembers.

Then maybe make it so that after a while, Ditto will begin to forget, and you can't change the memory until after the ditto forgets 2 of the memories attacks.

It would be handy as Ditto could see light in something like UU, becoming very unpredictable.
 
Moltres/Zapdos/Aero have SubRoost sets to abuse Pressure... but other than that, yeah Pressure's useless. The only reason Gamefreak gave it to all those legendaries was to prevent them from being broken, I guess.
 
Moltres/Zapdos/Aero have SubRoost sets to abuse Pressure... but other than that, yeah Pressure's useless. The only reason Gamefreak gave it to all those legendaries was to prevent them from being broken, I guess.
Forgot Zapdos, but SubRoost areo looses Subs too quickly (I tried it once) and Arcticuno has trouble w/ defensive sets b/c SR. By the time sub is up, Articuno has 1/4 HP left....

Exactly. As I said: Mewtwo is, and always has been, bad enough.....We don't need abilities that would boost 150 Sp Attack any higher.....

Although.....Weavile really doesn't need Pressure.....
 
I wonder if they put Pressure all over the place in gen 3 as a response to GSC being stall wars? (A probably misguided response it's true).
 
lol. Maybe Ditto was supposed to get it until they realized how menacing that face really is and how Pressure would need to do more than double PP to stop Transform....

The thing is, then why didn't they just put it on bulky Pokemon instead of such frail sweepers(Deo, Absol, etc)?

But I think more Pokemon get it in Gen 4 than 3....
 
Dialga and Giratina (and potentially Spiritomb) can also use Pressure to wittle away Arceus's Extremespeed's 8 PP. Other than that and using SubRoost to PP stall Stone Edge, it really isn't that useful.
 
Dialga and Giratina (and potentially Spiritomb) can also use Pressure to wittle away Arceus's Extremespeed's 8 PP. Other than that and using SubRoost to PP stall Stone Edge, it really isn't that useful.

I doubt that as well, as who would E-Speed Dialga, or even Giratina?.....
But I see your point.
 
I suppose you predict the E-speed and switch in, preferable forcing Arceus out. Do that 4 times and Arceus is out of Extremespeeds.
 
Exactly. As I said: Mewtwo is, and always has been, bad enough.....We don't need abilities that would boost 150 Sp Attack any higher.....

Although.....Weavile really doesn't need Pressure.....
Let's give Mewtwo Tinted Lens! Just kidding, but I really do wish the legendaries did get something other than Pressure. If legendaries are given Pressure to balance them out, then giving legendaries equally good abilities will balance out the pool of legendaries IMO. Seriously, I was so disappointed when I learned that the legendary birds and dogs got a mere Pressure when I first got them in 3rd gen...

Also, I hope Weavile gets Technician (techni-ice priority ftw) or even Adaptability and get no more STAB moves.
 
I suppose you predict the E-speed and switch in, preferable forcing Arceus out. Do that 4 times and Arceus is out of Extremespeeds.
Ya, but that's not stalling, that's making Arceus furious (lol). Using Giratina/Dialga to stall w/ Pressure can work, but there is rarely any reason because they can usually KO a Pokemon an save themselves the HP/Chesto Berry. I'm not saying it's a bad idea, but you will usually find better things to do, anyway.

lol. I want to see someone fall for that 4 times! Epic!

Let's give Mewtwo Tinted Lens! Just kidding, but I really do wish the legendaries did get something other than Pressure. If legendaries are given Pressure to balance them out, then giving legendaries equally good abilities will balance out the pool of legendaries IMO. Seriously, I was so disappointed when I learned that the legendary birds and dogs got a mere Pressure when I first got them in 3rd gen...

Also, I hope Weavile gets Technician (techni-ice priority ftw) or even Adaptability and get no more STAB moves.

lol! Give the legends Keen Eye instead! It's almost equally as useless! (but if fog becomes a weather condition, and some really good Pokemon get Sand Attack.....And evasion clause isn't on.....I'll be ready)!

The dogs didn't really need Pressure, I agree.....And Weavile got Pressure probably because it was late, they were low on ideas, and they knew Keen Eye would make players furious.
But, outside of Pursuit, Fake Out and Ice Shard.....Well, Ice Shard and Pursuit are good. Weavile doesn't have the move pool to support Technician as well as Scizor.
 
A Dragon-type with Tinted Lens would be amazing. They should give it to a Dragon Eevee or go with Intimidate. All Eevees can Roar so one should be intimidating, especially that Glaceon...but that's more creepy than frightening. Donphan should get a 2nd ability...I don't know...SteamRoller? Att+Speed up every turn? Like free Dragon Dances.
 
A Dragon-type with Tinted Lens would be amazing. They should give it to a Dragon Eevee or go with Intimidate. All Eevees can Roar so one should be intimidating, especially that Glaceon...but that's more creepy than frightening. Donphan should get a 2nd ability...I don't know...SteamRoller? Att+Speed up every turn? Like free Dragon Dances.
That would be awesome. Make 130 Attack, 110 Speed, Tinted lens, Outrage.......ouch...

Outrage + Own Tempo. lol


lol! 120 Attack, 120 Defense, OK HP, Ice Shard and you want free DDs! STAB EQ and no double weaknesses + SteamRoller and great attack, reasonably Bulky (I use him, and w/ 0 SP Defense investment and 230 or so HP, survives Vaporeon's Surf) and priority w/ good coverage!

As awesome and broken that would be, it really isn't needed. Donphan is already a good Pokemon. Maybe Solid Rock for Bulk or something like that would be nice, but it's not really needed. I would know, my present team relies heavily on him, and he always delivers (BTW, It's an OU team). If Suicune and Vapor weren't around so much, he would be much more common. My investment is a 2hko from Vapor and a 3hko from Suicune w/o max sp attack and no CMs.

He would be a monster if he learned Dragon Dance, let alone if he got attack and speed boosts by existing!
 
I would go for a Dragon-type with 130 HP like Vaporeon. That would be SWEET! 110 on Speed and 95 on SpcAtt (I want more special attacking Dragons. They're all going physical). Outrage+OwnTempo would be super awesome. They should do that but would OwnTempo really prevent Outrage's confusion. If not, TangledFeet would be kinda nice.
 
It prevents confusion. Back in Gale of Darkness there was a simulator where you skill swap Own Tempo onto a Sharpedo w/ nothing but Thrash. I didn't get confused.
 
Ya, but that's not stalling, that's making Arceus furious (lol). Using Giratina/Dialga to stall w/ Pressure can work, but there is rarely any reason because they can usually KO a Pokemon an save themselves the HP/Chesto Berry. I'm not saying it's a bad idea, but you will usually find better things to do, anyway.

lol. I want to see someone fall for that 4 times! Epic!



lol! Give the legends Keen Eye instead! It's almost equally as useless! (but if fog becomes a weather condition, and some really good Pokemon get Sand Attack.....And evasion clause isn't on.....I'll be ready)!

The dogs didn't really need Pressure, I agree.....And Weavile got Pressure probably because it was late, they were low on ideas, and they knew Keen Eye would make players furious.
But, outside of Pursuit, Fake Out and Ice Shard.....Well, Ice Shard and Pursuit are good. Weavile doesn't have the move pool to support Technician as well as Scizor.
Another useless thing to do is giving Spiritomb Solid Rock/Filter unless if you really fear Scrappy. About Weavile not being able to use Technician properly, Ice Shard, Fake Out, Pursuit, and a <=60 base power Low Kick says hi.
 
I approve of the Dragon eevee-lution idea. The stats would probably be best like so

HP: 95
Attack: 130
Defence: 65
Sp.Attack: 60
Sp.Defence: 60
Speed: 110

That with Own Tempo and Outrage? I smell auto OU material. Maybe it could learn Dragon Dance, too. Would Quick Attack be a viable priority move after a DD or two?
 
oooh...they gotta nake a Dragon-type with Outrage and OwnTempo!!!

@above: Eevees follow a 130/110/95/65/65/60 pattern so SpcDef should be 65, unless you want it to have a crappy moveset where it carries special attacks.
 
I approve of the Dragon eevee-lution idea. The stats would probably be best like so

HP: 95
Attack: 130
Defence: 65
Sp.Attack: 60
Sp.Defence: 60
Speed: 110

That with Own Tempo and Outrage? I smell auto OU material. Maybe it could learn Dragon Dance, too. Would Quick Attack be a viable priority move after a DD or two?
I doubt that Quick Attack would be viable due to the lack of STAB and low base power. Also, maybe you could swap the defence and special attack base stat to maker the hypothetical Dragon Eevee more sweeper-oriented, not that it matters much.
 
It probably would make sense more. 65 base Special Attack is still nothing to brag about, though. I thought that if it was going to be more physically oriented, then the little extra should go towards that route as well.

I could easily see a specially superior one as well. At least with that it would set itself a little more apart from Salamence, who's already the main physical force when it comes to Outrage and Dragon Dance.

Edit: Could have sworn it was two 60s, not 65. Ah well. Better to round off those defences anyways than put into a stat that won't be used at all.
 
E-Speed would make it very different than Mence, but most priority is outdone because of Dragonite. I was thinking:

Eon (or something else w/ an epic sound)
Own Tempo/Tinted Lens
65 HP
110 Attack
60 Defense
95 Sp Attack
65 Sp Defense
130 Speed

Mixed Sweeper. Higher attack to abuse Outrage w/o Confusion, Sp Attack to abuse Draco Meteor. Tinted Lens and Own Tempo make it very unique. I had to move the stats around because a lot of combos are overshadowed by either Dragonite, Salamence, or Latios. 130 Speed b/c it needs something besides a good ability to beat Mence, Latias, Latios, Dragonite, and in some case, T-Tar as a DDer.

Keep in mind: It's an eevee evo. Meaning poor Move pool diversity. Tinted Lens is almost a requirement seeing no fire attacks. Bronzong won't care about HP Fire, either.
 
As I said, tinted lens will be needed to make up for no move pool diversity. He is lucky there are good dragon attacks and that steel is the only resist.

Flareon and Glacion weren't so lucky (well....ice does have good coverage....)

I don't see why Flygon doesn't have tinted lens....Do you think Game Freak knew it would become too uber?
 
I guess Flygon's Ground immunity is too important. Stantler and Ninetales should be able to breed EnergyBall onto Eevee. That would help out a special Flareon.
 
As I said, they probably knew it would be almost impossible to beat.

I guess Flygon's Ground immunity is too important. Stantler and Ninetales should be able to breed EnergyBall onto Eevee. That would help out a special Flareon.

But then Leafeon would be forgotten, and Jolteon, Vaporeon, Espeon would completely outclass poor little Leafeon.....
 
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