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To the first part, uh, what? The higher the chance of a random beneficial effect happening, the more "unfair" it is considered to be. You have it backwards.

No, you do. "Hax" is random chance. If Flamethrower burns you and it costs you the match, that's hax. If Will-O-Wisp burns you and it costs you the match, that's not hax. The fact that Will-O-Wisp has a much higher probability of burning (75% vs. 10%) does not make Will-O-Wisp "more unfair." The person with Will-O-Wisp dedicated a moveslot to picking up useful burns. The person with Flamethrower wanted an accurate, powerful, Fire-type, Special attack, and the burn is gravy.

The reason people dislike "hax items" like Quick Claw is exactly because they only occasionally do what they are supposed to do. If Quick Claw was like a perpetual Custap Berry, where you always go first within your priority bracket, it would be different. We would decide whether that power was acceptable or not and either ban the item or allow it. But when you are sweeping with Agiligross and your opponent has a Magcargo, and oops, looks like his Quick Claw went off and you died to his Lava Plume, it feels like you got robbed. This is precisely because there is no way you could plan for this. Magcargo goes first just 3/16 of the time, so the "correct" play is to assume that it will not. The fact that it randomly did, in the eyes of people who ban Quick Claw as a "hax item," makes your loss somehow less legitimate or skill-testing. The smaller the chance, the greater the "I got robbed" feeling.
 
I want to use Skuntank in OU--I like its Attack so I'm using an Adamant Nature on it, but can anyone think of a good spread/set for it?
If you want to use Skuntank in OU, your best bet is to not use an Adamant Nature. Skunktank has no physical moves to hit the vast amount of steels in the OU metagame. Therefore your best bet would be a Mix Skunktank, as it gets access to Flamethrower and Fire Blast:



Skuntank (M) @ Life Orb
Ability: Aftermath
EVs: 154 Atk/208 Spd/148 SAtk
Naive nature (+Spd, -SDef)
- Sucker Punch
- Explosion
- Fire Blast
- Crunch

Given EVs allow it to 2HKO Skarmony, OHKO Scizor, as well as dent all other Steels in OU.

6 HP Latias is OHKOed after SR damage by Sucker Punch or Crunch.

Also Blissey is OHKOed by Explosion.

Speed EVs allow it to outspeed Adamant Lucario and it can take a boosted Extremespeed. It lands at 281, as to outspeed those trying to outspeed Adamant Lucario.

Best of Luck!
 
To the first part, uh, what? The higher the chance of a random beneficial effect happening, the more "unfair" it is considered to be. You have it backwards.

You're saying the devlopers just took the ROM for Diamond or Pearl and made changes to it to create HeartGold and SoulSilver? That's most certainly not what the they did; the game itself was created from scratch.

let me explain, lets take jirachi iron head for example, it got a 60% chance of flinching and a 40% chance of not flinching, this means that it will be hax when it DONT flinch, something like quick claw got 20% chance of happening so its hax when it happens because the chance of not happening is bigger then the chance of happening, hax is luck so when something with less chance of happening happens it can be considered bad luck/hax, also maybe gamefreak simply added the name of DP just for trading porpuses.
 
If you want to use Skunktank in OU, your best bet is to not use an Adamant Nature. Skunktank has no physical moves to hit the vast amount of steels in the OU metagame. Therefore your best bet would be a Mix Skunktank, as it gets access to Flamethrower and Fire Blast:



Skuntank (M) @ Life Orb
Ability: Aftermath
EVs: 154 Atk/208 Spd/148 SAtk
Naive nature (+Spd, -SDef)
- Sucker Punch
- Explosion
- Fire Blast
- Crunch

Given EVs allow it to 2HKO Skarmony, OHKO Scizor, as well as dent all other Steels in OU.

6 HP Latias is OHKOed after SR damage by Sucker Punch or Crunch.

Also Blissey is OHKOed by Explosion.

Wow. thank you... that's awesome! Truly, that's an innovative set--the only problem is the only shiny flawless one I have is Adamant...
 
You're saying the devlopers just took the ROM for Diamond or Pearl and made changes to it to create HeartGold and SoulSilver? That's most certainly not what the they did; the game itself was created from scratch.
The game was most certainly NOT created from scratch. That's an extremely rare thing to do. HGSS were made using the code for the Platinum. Game-engine wise, most of the changes are the menu systems, the Pokethlon, and a little bit of work for the following Pokemon. The majority of work will have been new graphics, dialogue, a few movepool changes.
Even Diamond and Pearl weren't created from scratch - they were based on Emerald. Which was based on FRLG, which was based on RS. I believe Ruby and Sapphire was the last, and indeed only code rewrite in the Pokemon series.

Obviously they don't ROM hack, they have the source code. But definitely most games are based on their predecessors, to a varying degree. From what we've seen, it's almost certain Black and White are based on HGSS.
 
My question is: Does having a Pokemon with the ability synchronize yield a corresponding nature from a legendary Pokemon like Ho-oh in the version Heart Gold and Soul Silver? I know it didn't in Emerald through DPP, but I have someone telling me first hand accounts of Synchronize working on their Ho-oh in Heart Gold, and I would like to dispel the confusion clouding my head.

Thank you in advanced.
 
My question is: Does having a Pokemon with the ability synchronize yield a corresponding nature from a legendary Pokemon like Ho-oh in the version Heart Gold and Soul Silver? I know it didn't in Emerald through DPP, but I have someone telling me first hand accounts of Synchronize working on their Ho-oh in Heart Gold, and I would like to dispel the confusion clouding my head.

Thank you in advanced.

It did work Emerald through DPP, so there is no reason why it wouldn't work in HGSS.
 
Obviously they don't ROM hack, they have the source code.
Well, yeah. That's what I'm saying. I guess "from scratch" is the wrong term, I just mean they aren't simply taking Pearl and swapping some sprites. When all the locations, text, animations, sprites, everything is being overhauled, it makes no sense for location data to have fallen by the wayside...
My question is: Does having a Pokemon with the ability synchronize yield a corresponding nature from a legendary Pokemon like Ho-oh in the version Heart Gold and Soul Silver? I know it didn't in Emerald through DPP, but I have someone telling me first hand accounts of Synchronize working on their Ho-oh in Heart Gold, and I would like to dispel the confusion clouding my head.

Thank you in advanced.
Yes.
 
It did work Emerald through DPP, so there is no reason why it wouldn't work in HGSS.

That's odd. I tried it once and it didn't work. I have also read and been told the same thing numerous times that it didn't work.
I guess I'll give it a shot one more time.
Thank you once again ^^
 
Is Psychic generally considered bad typing? It honestly seems so by Smogon's words (Latias analysis: Psychic has poor coverage, Latias suffered from Bug and Dark weaknesses, ect')...
 
I'm RNGing for a Shiny Cresselia right now and I have to wonder, does that little window that appears when you talk to cresselia show if it's shiny? Just wondering right now.
 
Is Psychic generally considered bad typing? It honestly seems so by Smogon's words (Latias analysis: Psychic has poor coverage, Latias suffered from Bug and Dark weaknesses, ect')...
This turns up surprisingly often. Yes it is mediocre. Offensively it hits only two types SE - the moderately uncommon Fighting (bearing in mind Luke is hit neutrally) and the very uncommon in OU Poison. It's resisted by itself, Steel but so is half the type chart, and totally walled by Dark.
Defensively, the worst thing is the pursuit weakness. But other dark attacks, and ghost attacks, are quite common too. The u-turn weakness isn't helpful either. And it only resists one type other than itself - fighting (at least it is a fairly commonly used attacking type).

Psychic's not awful, but it's distinctly mediocre. Ubers is stuffed with Psychics, but they often forgo their STAB, in part BECAUSE there are so many so Psychic attacks get resisted by other Psychic Pokemon. Outside Ubers, Alakazam really suffered from the elemental punches going physical. The type in general is also a bit one-dimensional - mostly fast, frail, special sweepers which of course get stopped by Blissey. The majority of Psychic types that AREN'T special sweepers are dual types, and there the psychic typing is usually a liability. (Psychic/Fighting is a good offensive duo, though totally stopped by Dark/Ghosts. But even then Gallade and Medicham aren't OU)
 
I'm RNGing for a Shiny Cresselia right now and I have to wonder, does that little window that appears when you talk to cresselia show if it's shiny? Just wondering right now.
I believe so. I'm not positive, but it makes sense since the window is so it will be added to your Pokédex, and if a Pokémon is shiny the first time you encounter any of its species (such as Red Gyrados), it will be that way in your Pokédex.
 
If I want to lead with Azelf,
SR (obviously)
Psychic
Explosion
Fire Blast? Tuant lets me shut down Bronzong and Metagross, but then I'll be forced to Explode on them for miniscule damage, while Fire Blast actually enables me to actively 2HKO, and as I plan a very offensive team I wish to be as "active" as possible...
 
If I want to lead with Azelf,
SR (obviously)
Psychic
Explosion
Fire Blast? Tuant lets me shut down Bronzong and Metagross, but then I'll be forced to Explode on them for miniscule damage, while Fire Blast actually enables me to actively 2HKO, and as I plan a very offensive team I wish to be as "active" as possible...
Stealth Rock, Explosion, Fire Blast, Taunt. But this set is so common that it's very easy to predict
 
But I need Psychic for Infernape and Machamp...
Say...I honestly think the worst thing regarding team bulding for me is to limit myself to six Pokemon...
 
But I need Psychic for Infernape and Machamp...
Say...I honestly think the worst thing regarding team bulding for me is to limit myself to six Pokemon...
Lead Azelf using Fire Blast against AntiLead Machamp is guaranteed 3 hit kill, Psychic is guaranteed 2 hit kill.
Lead Azelf using Fire Blast against Lead Infernape can be a 3 hit kill, Psychic is guaranteed 2 hit kill when counting Focus Sash.
Lead Azelf using Fire Blast against against Lead Aerodactyl can be a 4 hit kill, Psychic is guaranteed 2 hit kill.
Lead Azelf using Fire Blast against Mixed Swampert Lead can be a 5 hit kill, Psychic is guaranteed 3 hit kill.
Lead Azelf using Fire Blast against Lead Metagross can be a 3 hit kill, Psychic is guaranteed 10 hit kill.
Lead Azelf using Fire Blast against Lead Jirachi can be a 2 hit kill, Psychic is guaranteed 10 hit kill.
Lead Azelf using Fire Blast against Lead Roserade can be a 1 hit kill, Psychic is guaranteed 1 hit kill.
Those are some of the most common leads in OU in February and March, and I say Fire Blast "can be" whatever because Fire Blast can miss under normal circumstances, Psychic can't. Except for in Machamp's case with No Guard

Too long, didn't read - I'll let you decide for yourself and see which one works out better
 
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