Pokemon Black & White, aka Gen 5. Coming to Japan in Fall 2010.

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I don't have a definite type or anything set....I was thinking part poison considering it excretes poison into Slowbro's tail, making it numb, and Slowking's head, making it smart. I was also thinking Psychic and putting the red orb on the back of it's head.

I put Water for obvious reasons.

So far on moves I have Crunch, Clamp, Toxic Spikes, Spikes, Stealth Rock, Rest (obviously)...Maybe Recover.....I want to give it Waterfall, but if Kingler can't I don't see it making any sense for this guy to be able to.....


The 5 base Speed made me laugh. It reminds me of Torkoal. Decent all-around stats but its Speed just makes it eh...
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Considering it comes from one of the slowest evolved Pokemon and has nothing but a face.....It kind of makes sense for it to be slow....lol....I also wanted to give Skarm some advantages...
 
Huge Power Wigglytuff would be awesome. It has room for a second ability. I'd wanna see it with a special version of Huge Power so it can still make use of Hyper Voice and the "YOOM TAH!" and...idk...Vacuum Wave?
 
Huge Power Wigglytuff would be awesome. It has room for a second ability. I'd wanna see it with a special version of Huge Power so it can still make use of Hyper Voice and the "YOOM TAH!" and...idk...Vacuum Wave?
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How about Huge Power + Quick Attack + Return?

But I also think it would be much better to see a Special Huge Power on Wigglytuff. It really helps it's a normal type, and as such, has an enormous special move pool. lol
 
Rein said:
How about Huge Power + Quick Attack + Return?

But I also think it would be much better to see a Special Huge Power on Wigglytuff. It really helps it's a normal type, and as such, has an enormous special move pool. lol
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Yea...Physical attackers are so overrated now. I want 5th generation to be the reign of the special attackers. If Wigglytuff becomes that powerful, it'll become the first special "glass cannon." The downside is that it's incredibly slow, unlike the other powered up guys (Azumarill gets Aqua Jet but he's not as frail).
 
Yea...Physical attackers are so overrated now. I want 5th generation to be the reign of the special attackers.
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Just about all of Generation IVs legends are special attackers, as well as Empoleon, Pory Z, Yanmega, etc......Blissey is just too good at being a special wall.

It's just that most of the popular OU Pokemon are physical (Scizor, Salamence, T-Tar, etc.) and T-Tar got his special defense boost in instant, infinite SS.....
 
Rein said:
Just about all of Generation IVs legends are special attackers, as well as Empoleon, Pory Z, Yanmega, etc......Blissey is just too good at being a special wall.

It's just that most of the popular OU Pokemon are physical (Scizor, Salamence, T-Tar, etc.)
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I'd love to see a Blissey-Wigglytuff fight. Like on the show and everything. That's why I want Wigglytuff to be a special attacker that Blissey fears without a Nasty Plot boost.
 
I'd love to see a Blissey-Wigglytuff fight. Like on the show and everything. That's why I want Wigglytuff to be a special attacker that Blissey fears without a Nasty Plot boost.
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lol. That would be epic! Aura Sphere would probably make it interesting (Focus Blast works too, but w/ such accuracy, Blissey would just heal every time it missed....)

Now that I think about it, How did Azumarill get Huge Power and Wigglytuff missed out? Wigglytuff is infamous for puffing itself up to look large and menacing.....
 
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lol. That would be epic! Aura Sphere would probably make it interesting (Focus Blast works too, but w/ such accuracy, Blissey would just heal every time it missed....)

Now that I think about it, How did Azumarill get Huge Power and Wigglytuff missed out? Wigglytuff is infamous for puffing itself up to look large and menacing.....
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I really have no idea. On personality, Wigglytuff-Jigglypuff-Igglybuff are definitely on top. They're so short-tempered on the show and in the games, they're unbelievably silly and lovable characters.
 
Rein said:
Just about all of Generation IVs legends are special attackers, as well as Empoleon, Pory Z, Yanmega, etc......Blissey is just too good at being a special wall.

It's just that most of the popular OU Pokemon are physical (Scizor, Salamence, T-Tar, etc.)
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That's ubers though, it's always been special. All the pseudo-legendaries are physical, all the offensive gimmick pokemon (medicham, slaking, regigigas, marowak, azumarill) are physical, there's no special variant of dragon dance, or belly drum, there aren't any pokemon with 160 base special attack that aren't deoxys, and there's no real defensive equivalent of Blissey to stop a boosted physical sweep.
 
Wigglytuff really should get SOMETHING to make it stand out. I'd rate it among the most outclassed Pokemon - Clefable has better defenses, offenses, and speed, a much better ability, and a movepool that's virtually everything Wigglytuff gets and a lot more.
All Wigglytuff has is an edge under Trick Room, more HP for Counter-coating, Hyper Voice, Pain Split (but Clefable gets Softboiled), and Perish Song. It's really not enough.
 
Farfetch'd (or any other Pokemon, for that matter) doesn't really need an evolution.
This won't make Farfetch'd OU (or probably UU for that matter) but if you made it so its signature item, Stick, makes all attacks coming from Farfetch'd criticals and then gave it Sucker Punch, decent Flying STAB and maybe one more type-coverage move (maybe Fire or Fighting or Water?), it could be used as a decent gimmick. It could even go special to throw off your opponents. And it would be usable in-game since things like Harden or Growl won't affect it.
In the same vein, you could give underpowered Pokemon signature items or moves or abilities that will let them keep up (I think this was part of the "Rhypherior is pointless" argument--if you gave Rhydon Rock Solid and maybe a signature Rock type attack, such as a stronger Rock Blast, it would work better than Rhypherior). Pikachu got a boost with Light Ball, and although it's not even close to OU, it's still usable as a gimmick, and certainly powerful in-game. Marowak also has an item and Azumarill got Pure Power in 3rd gen.
 
you dont know what a evolution is capable of doing, with the right stats he would be moving up tiers really fast, at the moment even if all his hits were critical they would still be pathetic and weak.
 
asdfrozen said:
Farfetch'd (or any other Pokemon, for that matter) doesn't really need an evolution. This won't make Farfetch'd OU (or probably UU for that matter) but if you made it so its signature item, Stick, makes all attacks coming from Farfetch'd criticals and then gave it Sucker Punch, decent Flying STAB and maybe one more type-coverage move (maybe Fire or Fighting or Water?), it could be used as a decent gimmick. It could even go special to throw off your opponents. And it would be usable in-game since things like Harden or Growl won't affect it.
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I don't follow how you know for sure it won't make the Farfetch'd line OU or UU. It all depends. A good fighting flying type with stats comparable with a starter would be OU viable given a half decent movepool. The same idea applies to any evolution line. It depends if it makes things usable.
 
I'd be most interested in a WiFi Battle Frontier. What I mean is that you enter a Battle Frontier facility like in Platinum, but you battle some random opponent on WiFi. This would essentially be like a WiFi PBR battle, but with more gameplay options (another benefit is that Legendaries will be omitted from these battles).
 
Wow, I missed a lot in the past couple of days :P

How funny would it be if everyone did their versions of the starters as Water/Fire/Grass, and it turns out they're not the standard Water/Fire/Grass combo?

Anyways, I can't wait for the leaks (Serebii says tomorrow perhaps).
 
asdfrozen said:
Pikachu got a boost with Light Ball, and ... certainly powerful in-game.
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The Pikachu solo run that I completed in my Diamond for YouTube (my channel in sig) is a proof of that. The Light Ball boost is enough to OHKO certain ubers (other part of my sig). If, in next-gen, Light Ball also doubled Pikachu's speed, or both defenses, it would boost itself up the tierlist, at least to UU, and get some more use in OU and ubers (for example, in the case of speed, it would outspeed a scarf Jolly Garchomp; 306x2=612, even 279x2=558 while 333x1.5=499)

Edit: Come to think of it:
The Pokemon Pimp said:
How funny would it be if everyone did their versions of the starters as Water/Fire/Grass, and it turns out they're not the standard Water/Fire/Grass combo?
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The silhouettes do look like Water/Fire/Grass to me (in particular I see the one that looks a bit like a Turtwig as Grass).
 
yay, new silhouettes.

i think the skinny one is grass typed (look at its tail), the bipedal and fat is water typed (it looks like a big bubble) and the quadrupede is the fire one.

just speculating....
 
Pikachu with light ball boost -> Every possible stat: Maxes

274 HP (=Base 35), 458 Atk(=Base 158), 348 Def (=Base 108), 436 SpA (=Base 149), 392 (=Base 129), 612 Spe (=Base 229)
This makes Light Ball Pikachu that boosts all non-hp stats equivalent to an Electric-type Pokemon with
35/158/108/149/129/229 Base stats, with a total of 808, Ubers material.
Just speed makes it = to 35/158/30/149/40/229 with a total of 641. Certainly rather good, being the naturally fastest Pokemon in the game, but ruined by priority. Goes over 600 BST.
Defenses makes it 35/158/108/149/129/90 with a total of 669, almost bulky, not really fast, but strong. Goes over 600 BST.

I'm not seeing Pikachu getting Light Ball buffs soon because if they DO give him buffs, then it would mean that he crosses into the Psedolegend territory with >600 BST.
 
I'd be most interested in a WiFi Battle Frontier. What I mean is that you enter a Battle Frontier facility like in Platinum, but you battle some random opponent on WiFi. This would essentially be like a WiFi PBR battle, but with more gameplay options (another benefit is that Legendaries will be omitted from these battles).
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I want to see an entire city where anyone on the wi-fi in your area can just run around. The people don't just stand around like the union room, but are actually shown moving.
 
On the Pikachu subject, one thing they could do is make two more light ball-type items, that boost speed and attack/sp atk depending on the item, as well as the current one that boosts both offenses without speed.
 
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