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Pokemon Black & White, aka Gen 5. Coming to Japan in Fall 2010.
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i am not complaning at all, he is great in the way he is, i am just saying there is some stuff wrong here and there about him but nothing really horrible, i was really talking about small changes like put some special atack into speed and to add fire punch since he get blaze kick anyway. no one will use fire punch either way, i guess its one of those gamefreak retarded moments, just like not giving snorlax slack off i guess. i guess its clear i am a lucario fan and that is why i am just saying they should fix some small useless stuff like that, it just piss me off to see a poke not learning a move he should or the other way around.
i would prefer for lucario to not learn blaze kick in the first place and that he had nasty plot instead (because togekiss learning make complete sense but lucario having the same move is stupid)
i would prefer for lucario to not learn blaze kick in the first place and that he had nasty plot instead (because togekiss learning make complete sense but lucario having the same move is stupid)
Many Pokemon would die to be in Lucario's position. 90 Is a lot higher than several other major OU threats. There aren't too many OU Pokemon above 100.....
Tyranitar feels the same way about his speed.
70/70/70 is better defenses than a lot of regular sweepers have. And his typing gives him resistances the other Pokemon can only dream about. He can survive Close Combats from opposing Lucario and Infernape w/ the right investment.
Tyranitar feels the same way about his speed.
70/70/70 is better defenses than a lot of regular sweepers have. And his typing gives him resistances the other Pokemon can only dream about. He can survive Close Combats from opposing Lucario and Infernape w/ the right investment.
not really, he is taking more then 200% from oposing lucario CC and infernape fire blast, heck then can go and fuck over his typing by making him fighting/dark, i just want those freaks to fix the damn movepool! take away retarded shit like blaze kick if possible. another thing is that lucario just dont work anymore, he is great by all fucking means, but...its just not doing it today. while on that they can give snorlax slack off, flygon SR and some other random crap.
then again i am asking too much, everyone know gamefreak cant do the movepools for pokemons right, so they always add something retarded.
below:i want then to take away retarded stuff, not give! lucario movepool is big but he dont have any use for more then half of all the moves he get.
then again i am asking too much, everyone know gamefreak cant do the movepools for pokemons right, so they always add something retarded.
below:i want then to take away retarded stuff, not give! lucario movepool is big but he dont have any use for more then half of all the moves he get.
His movepool is something other pokemon drool over. There are a lot of things Gamefreak needs to fix, none of which have anything to do with Lucario.
If you give it the right EV investment it can (I failed and gave a Lucario near max defense back in D/P and it was only a 2HKO from Adamant 252 Attack Lucario that was pokesavd).
Blaze Kick is kind of random, probably gave it to him b/c it was cool w/ casual players when Blaziken used it.
But he has a really good move pool and his Sp Attack is nowhere near as desperate for Nasty Plot than several other Pokemon.
Blaze Kick is kind of random, probably gave it to him b/c it was cool w/ casual players when Blaziken used it.
But he has a really good move pool and his Sp Attack is nowhere near as desperate for Nasty Plot than several other Pokemon.
togekiss learn nasty plot and that shit dont look evil at all(125 special atack right?). infernape learn nasty plot too and his special atack is almost the same has lucario.
fact is, i want then to take away stuff he dont need and put stuff that make sense, same for a lot of other different pokemons. i just felt like using lucario has a example, the evo thing was random too, i was just trying to give a reason for they to fix, i am sorry.
edit:Deleted the post, i was trying to ask something in the wrong way.
fact is, i want then to take away stuff he dont need and put stuff that make sense, same for a lot of other different pokemons. i just felt like using lucario has a example, the evo thing was random too, i was just trying to give a reason for they to fix, i am sorry.
edit:Deleted the post, i was trying to ask something in the wrong way.
252 Atk. LO Close Combat vs. 252 HP / 252 Def Impish Lucario: 129.7%-153.5%
However, Lucario is a sweeper and not a tank. His defenses are quite sufficient for setting up on things like ScartTar's Stone Edge/Pursuit/Crunch, Celebi's Grass Knot (with Safeguard up), -2 Draco Meteor, etc.
However, Lucario is a sweeper and not a tank. His defenses are quite sufficient for setting up on things like ScartTar's Stone Edge/Pursuit/Crunch, Celebi's Grass Knot (with Safeguard up), -2 Draco Meteor, etc.
Infernape kind of makes sense, seeing Chimchar is considered a trouble maker, and doesn't have a special attack as high as Lucario's. I guess they gave it to Togekiss b/c they didn't like how Togetic was completely forgotten, and how it has nothing to pass w/ Baton Pass but very rare boosts from Ancientpower and the like. They were probably giving Togetic boosts and thought they might as well give it a new evo.
My mistake, I guess....Friend must have made a mistake on the IVs and it wasn't holding Life Orb.
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Oh no you didn't
Yeah, but they can't use it if they're locked into Water Spout or Thunder via a Choice Item. Quagsire even sees some use in Ubers as a Kyogre counter. Here's a quote from the Smogon strategy dex:
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Although Quagsire has rather average stats, it works well in Ubers thanks to Water Absorb and an immunity to Electric-type moves. Quagsire has one main purpose in Ubers: to be one of the best Kyogre checks in the game. It doesn't do much else, but Kyogre is such a force in Ubers that Quagsire can be useful if you can find nothing else to check Kyogre. An immunity to Thunder Wave sets Quagsire apart from Latias as Kyogre may carry it, which could be devastating for Latias. Without its STAB Water moves, Kyogre is forced to use Ice Beam, which from a standard Choice Scarf Kyogre is only a 4HKO. Encore, Toxic, and Yawn give Quagsire an effective support movepool, which can be used to cause switches and inflict status on opponents. This can be extremely helpful when used in conjunction with entry hazards, such as Stealth Rock and Spikes. Quagsire's main downfall is its low offensive power. This makes it an easy Pokémon to set up against, and it's especially vulnerable to Pokémon with Taunt.
I predict the left one will be a grass type duck pokemon. Judging from the last two gen.s they have used bird-like pokemon, Torchic and Prinplup, so it's not too far-fetched to think they might continue. They have used a reptile/dinosaur esque beginer in every gen. aswell.
If I could choose one thing to be changed, it would be total removal of SR. I hate it. Some of my favorite pokemon are Moltres, Ho-oh, Articuno, Arcanine, Charizard, Houndoom, Blazekin, Flareon..... I mean, really? SR just about destroys any use in Fire/Flying pokemon (which is the coolest type combo).
Oh, and an Absol evolution.
Oh, and an Absol evolution.
Agreed. Stealth Rock is so crazy as it is now...I mean, it's the big reason why suicide leads exist. They will do anything just to get those damn rocks up.
Also, at first I was asking myself, "Why does Absol need to evolve? He's already got a colossal base Attack score! What would GameFreak even do with him?" And then I remembered Dusclops.
agreed, while i enjoy the damage it cause to my enemy, SR need to go away, i always wanted to use charizard in UU or even OU knowing that i wont die after the second switch, but NOOOOOOO! gamefreak goes and put some magic 50% damage rocks!
dusclops:great excuse for my lucario evolution idea.
dusclops:great excuse for my lucario evolution idea.
Sadly, as much as I agree, they can't just completely remove an attack (removing the TM....sadly, they can't do that either w/o cutting connection between Gen 4 and 5).
They can make Rapid Spin appear on a few more Pokemon though, instead of being heavily restricted.
lol. This reminds me of when Delibird was the best Rapid Spinner in the game b/c immunity to all entry hazards.
Dusclops was OU in Gen III though, Absol is UU. Not saying tiers matter, but there are a lot of ways to improve Absol. Giving him 20-30 base speed would help, along with some additional bulk. Most pokemon need dual typing to compete in the OU metagame, but I just don't know what an Absol evo would possibly have.
+10 to each defense, +5 atack, +20 special atack, +15 speed(sucker punch is ENOUGH) and +10 hp, give him a bonus psychic type for some random reason(psychic cut? i dont know) or just let him pure dark:absol evo. now we need a name for him too, i would call him abyss but it dont sound cool enough.
Maybe another Psychic typing, seeing he can predict natural disasters.....It's probably the most suiting seeing not too many other types really fit him. Maybe Ghost, but that doesn't make too much sense either....
Maybe Sagony for a name? Slash + Agony?.....Or not.....
Keep in mind all the in-game stuff you have to dig through, like PokeDex entries and such, so the ability should probably be relevant to it's customs. Maybe Forewarn b/c I don't understand why he doesn't get it.....Anticipation for the same reason......lol, Intimidate would work, seeing people are Intimidated knowing a natural disaster is about to strike when they see him.
I'm kind of leaning toward "many more Pokemon need an evo more than he does".
Maybe Sagony for a name? Slash + Agony?.....Or not.....
Keep in mind all the in-game stuff you have to dig through, like PokeDex entries and such, so the ability should probably be relevant to it's customs. Maybe Forewarn b/c I don't understand why he doesn't get it.....Anticipation for the same reason......lol, Intimidate would work, seeing people are Intimidated knowing a natural disaster is about to strike when they see him.
I'm kind of leaning toward "many more Pokemon need an evo more than he does".
Yeah I was thinking Psychic would be the most reasonable, but then I was thinking how it would literally have 1 resistance (Psychic), but only 1 weakness (Bug 4x). Offensively, dark/psychic is resisted by dark and steel, which are hit super effectively by Superpower. It certainly would be interesting having a reliable STAB attack that grabs additional coverage in Psycho Cut to go alongside Sucker Punch, and then Superpower for coverage (though you are sadly left walled by Spiritomb... and Sableye).
Nah. I see an Absol evo being Dark/Bug (mostly for Megahorn... hey, Game Freak does weird things, so it's totally possible).
At least give it a nice boost on it's defenses, because Absol has NUMEROUS options for using it (Will-o-Wisp, Wish, Thunder Wave, Baton Pass Curse, Swords Dance or Calm Mind, Perish Song... damn).
At least give it a nice boost on it's defenses, because Absol has NUMEROUS options for using it (Will-o-Wisp, Wish, Thunder Wave, Baton Pass Curse, Swords Dance or Calm Mind, Perish Song... damn).
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