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Pokemon Black & White, aka Gen 5. Coming to Japan in Fall 2010.
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Great now I'm stuck on the idea of making an elephant design for our next CAP! Not that that's a bad thing i just hope the typing is conducive.
I didn't quite mean it in that sense...assuming that it transforms into a pokemon on the opponent's team, it could provide added synergy for your own.
For example, say it transformed into a Lucario Illusion when it first switched in. It could help to lure in a fire attack from heatran or something, giving your water a free switch. It's probably situational at best, though, if it relies on the opponent's team.
I'll pick these apart one at a time: Phanpy has pretty big ears, and Donphan's are pretty big too, they just don't hang down like real elephants and Phanpy. Pokemon don't have to be accurate with size (how is Raticate rat size? See, I can do that too) and PLEASE tell me you're not serious about the whole flight thing.
This sounds kind of cool, but what would the messages say for things like HP or Special Defense? It's hard to reference those without being completely obvious as to what you're talking about. Also, after a while it would get insanely annoying, especially if that dialogue came up after every single Pokemon you defeated.
Everyone seems to think that Illusion will either transform Zoroark into a random Pokemon (competitively worthless, as odds are he'll appear as some NFE) or that you'll be able to set his ability to transform into whatever you want. I don't think it will end up being this complicated. My prediction is that Illusion will make Zoroark transform into the Pokemon he's facing before he enters the battle, and the form will wear off once he is attacked. This would allow some potential for trickery, particularly if it was placed as a lead ("Oh, we both happen to have Azelf leads, so I'll just use Flamethrower predicting the Scizor switch-in...what? Sucker Punch?") However, it would also be completely useless and obvious at some times (Oh, you switched in your Blissey to counter...my Blissey.") It would also fit with the trailer for the movie, where the last Illusion Zoroark uses before revealing his true form to Ash and the gang is that of Ash himself.
OK, the photos show Zoroark transforming into both Entei and Raikou. But there are two things to keep in mind. First, these pics might not be from the same battle. Second, plenty of weird sprite changes already take place in Fourth gen battles. Gym leaders, Rocket executives, and rivals slide into battle all the time to give little quips. According to Serebii.net, Zoroark keeps his dark type, and according to previous posters on this thread, he keeps his HP (and presumably his other stats). So all that's really changing is his sprite...I fail to see how this would be different than an in-game trainer switching Pokemon. What do y'all think?
I don't see your point Dumbo is clearly based off the real physical capabilities of elephants.
Well ofcourse you would get the option to turn it off ;P
I think that the ability to modify a Pokemon's EVs/IVs should be available to purchase, likely with BP from the 5th-gen Battle Frontier. Of course, it would cost an extravagant amount...I mean, what, the most expensive thing in there now are some TMs at 80 BP? Let's say two or three times that.
Other than that, the specifics of EVs aren't really necessary to put onscreen, especially after each battle; I mean, EVs don't matter in-game unless you want to win at the Battle Frontier (which goes back to making EV/IV adjustment a prize there).
EDIT: Remember the clowns that quizzed you about gameplay mechanics before giving you the vouchers needed for the Poketch? I think one of their questions alluded to STAB; if you really want to spell out the EV thing right onscreen, do something like that again. Have some NPC spout, "Wow! My MACHOKE is stronger than my friend's! But his is faster...maybe it's because we fought different Pokemon?"
For HP, you could say its endurance has increased and for SpDef, you could say that its mind became stronger. HP is often made similar to endurance in other games and since intelegence is often used for magical attacks in other games and wisdom is often used as a resistance to magical/mind altering attacks, you can make SpDef comparable to wisdom.
I really don't think it was OHKO'd by Aura Sphere. If you look at all of Serebii's images, it seems like it was at around 75% when it got hit with Aura Sphere. Also, keep in mind that it's 5 levels lower than Raikou and Raikou has a Base SpAtk of 115. That said, I've never thought that Zoroark will have over 90 Base SpDef.
Has anyone else looked at the last 3 images on that page? They show the starters battling each other and shows one of each of their attacks. It looks like Tsutaja is using Razor Leaf, Pokabu is using Ember, and Mijumaru is using Water Pulse.
Also, Serebii says that Corocoro will reveal another new Pokemon next month and I'm hoping it will be one of the cover legendaries.
Zoroark has base 60HP... yuck.
Also its ability is worthless if you switch it in on an attack, you have to basically send it in on a support move or when one of your Pokemon die. Kind of limits your ability to bluff. Also the amount of damage you take from entry hazards is going to be a BIG giveaway. If Gyarados comes in and takes 12.5% damage from SR, you know it's Zoroark. This ability is starting to look pretty worthless to me. Then again Lucario gets by fine with a crappy ability so who knows.
Also its ability is worthless if you switch it in on an attack, you have to basically send it in on a support move or when one of your Pokemon die. Kind of limits your ability to bluff. Also the amount of damage you take from entry hazards is going to be a BIG giveaway. If Gyarados comes in and takes 12.5% damage from SR, you know it's Zoroark. This ability is starting to look pretty worthless to me. Then again Lucario gets by fine with a crappy ability so who knows.
I think that the illusion ability would be great on luring attacks that it resists, which would normally be super effective against the type chosen (Like transforming into Gengar or Rotom to take a NVE Shadow Ball while striking back with a Dark type move)
I'm curious to see how this will all pan out competitively.
I'm curious to see how this will all pan out competitively.
Actually, that's only if it has 31 as its HP IV and no HP EVs in the one picture with it fighting Zorua (which it probably does, but it might not). If it has 0 as its HP IV and no HP EVs, its Base HP is 75, so there's some margin of error.
I agree that its ability will most likely be worthless, one way or another, but I still think it should work just fine considering things like Lucario and Weavile do alright, despite their nearly useless abilities.
Nah, they're gonna pulla Gyarados/Milotic here. Zoroark's stats will be the same numbers as Lucarios but rearranged. I'd bet on same Defenses but the offenses and speed are swapped so that Spec attack is 90, Attack is 115 Speed is 110. It'd be pretty good, but lack lucario's amazing switch forcing ability.
Well, he'll get Claw Sharpen and Trickery. Maybe he'll have access to many powerful yet inaccurate physical moves to compliment that, as well as a very impressive Speed stat.
A Dark version of Megahorn perhaps? I still think Swords dance would be prefered since a +1 120 Base Power Dark move is only 12.5% stronger than a +2 Crunch and Swords Dance will power up its Brick Break/Close Combat more.
Edit: @ Lucalibur: A +1 Dark Stone Edge is weaker than a +2 Crunch.
@ hectord25: What are you talking about? Who mentioned using Dark Pulse? And if you're suggesting using Swords Dance + Dark Pulse, you should know that Swords Dance won't power it up because it's a Special move.
As I've said before, it'd make the most sense for Illusion to copy the appearance of another Pokémon on your team. This is what I suspect will actually happen.
For those who say the ability is worthless, that's only because it's worthless in the Singles OU metagame that you've created for yourselves. In Doubles, it could be extremely useful. Zoroark could lure attacks away from its partner that don't end up being super-effective against it. It could also make itself look bulkier and/or less threatening in order to deter attacks, giving it time to set up or deliver a killing blow.
For those who say the ability is worthless, that's only because it's worthless in the Singles OU metagame that you've created for yourselves. In Doubles, it could be extremely useful. Zoroark could lure attacks away from its partner that don't end up being super-effective against it. It could also make itself look bulkier and/or less threatening in order to deter attacks, giving it time to set up or deliver a killing blow.
Thing is, we don't know how many moves he will get that go with Claw Sharpen. Half of his entire movepool could be fill with powerful, inaccurate attacks for all we know. That's a good point, though.
Just watch him not get Swords Dance. Har.
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