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Charizard is also a fire-breathing dragon, so by your theory, why is he rubbish?

Well, notice how he's not actually a Dragon type, so my theory doesn't apply to him. Sure, he looks like he might be at least part Dragon, but so do Pokemon like Gyarados, Tyranitar, and Aerodactyl...not really getting your point here.

Also, Charizard is not "rubbish". He was either BL or OU in Smogon's tiers for the first three generations, and Stealth Rock is the only thing really holding him back in the Fourth. With Rapid Spin support, he can be freakin' deadly. I should know...I'd like to think I'm an OK battler (my CRE right now is about 1250) but I got my ass handed to me the other day by a well-built BellyZard team on Shoddy.

Finally, in my post, I was talking about power as it applied to the cartridge games, where Stealth Rock is almost never a factor in battles. Rent a copy of the original Pokemon Red (where entry hazards don't even exist), play through it with him, and tell me if you've re-evaluated your position.
 
A Narwhal or a Dolphin that's Fire/Water. A dolphin sounds better because most dolphins swim in waters that are around warm climates, so it could be a good Water/Fire.
 
I find this idea less appealing. They did it before, of course. But the change the type chart is to imply that previously it was wrong, at least that's how I see it. Whereas adding a new type is just like it's something new that's been discovered.

Hmm. Fair enough.

These haven't been done yet b/c it is very hard to implement on an animal/creature. Water douses Fire and Fire burns grass, so it really isn't easy to make one....They naturally oppose each other.....I do realize CAP has Fire/Grass.

A snake made of fire and light which lives on the waters could do fine as a Water/Fire pokémon.

yes I know the link doesn't mention the water part but you don't want a link in Portuguese do you
 
What else would I geyser pokemon be based on? Camerupt is also rather like a camel (hence the name). As such, I think a geyser pokemon would be based also on an animal. What animal could look like a geyser if you just changed a few things about it?

Good thing I caught this before posting my Geyser fakemon.

Then again, perhaps I will anyway.

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Older work with minor edits. Yes the art sucks. The gaping black thing is a mouth, it fires attacks from its spout and its mouth.

Hot Spring Pokemon/Geyser Pokemon. Inspiration from dinoflagellates, arguably turtles, and geysers with extremophile bacteria taken.

Admit it, you'd SO love a Geyser Pokemon with Eruption AND Water Spout.
 
Yeah, lol. Though when I think about it, Torkoal arguably is very close to being a "geyser" pokemon.
 
Hmm, a Water/Fire evolution of Torkoal wouldn't be too farfetch'd, now would it? Poor guy, he's one of the only single stage Pokemon which haven't had any support for an evolution that I know of.
 
A geyser Pokemon could work quite well as a whale/dolphin. It can just shoot boiling water out of its blow hole and a dolphin using Flamethrower seems like it could work just fine, besides the fact that it should spend all of its time in water. A turtle could probably work as well. Edit: I just realized that Torkoal is a turtle so an evo of it could work.

A lodgepole pine could work as a Fire/Grass Pokemon:

Wikipedia said:
The 3–7 cm cones often need exposure to high temperatures (such as from forest fires) in order to open and release their seeds, though in subsp. murrayana they open as soon as they are mature. The cones have prickles on the scales.

It could get Flash Fire or some ability like it, which would change its Fire neutrality to an immunity. There's some other type of tree that starts out as a bush, which is basically immune to being burned, and it waits until a forrest fire burns down all of the other trees. Once its competition is out of the way, it grows extremely quickly into an adult tree.

Competetively, both of these Pokemon would have to watch out for SR damage, although, the Fire and Grass Pokemon could easily take Electric and Grass attacks aimed a Vaporeon and get healed by Wish. The Fire/Water Pokemon would be a good counter for Scizor, since it has a dual resistance to Steel and a Bug resistance.
 
Yeah I agree. Though, considering the fact that Torkoal is only a single type, he could get a potential upgrade. Think about it. Another turtle that is Water type...But now it's also FIRE type...yay!
 
You know, as cool as that would be, if Torkoal got an evolution I doubt it would be part Water. Considering Torkoal is based off of a tortoise, and not a turtle, I think that they would want to differentiate the two. I can dream.
 
They bring out fossil Pokemon in every generation but gen2 so we probably have that to look forward to. Some non-rocky animal that ends up a Rock-type because you extract it from a fossil.. T.T Rock-type chicken from the past. Makes so much sense...
James could also go get his Chimecho back when it's no longer sick and find out that it evolved.
 
I'm not sure there are too many fossil Pokemon ideas left though. A stromatolite might be cool, and there were those armoured fish in the Devonian, they would rock as a Pokemon concept. Perhaps break from fossil tradition and give it Steel/Water typing with good bulk, high physical attack, low special attack, and moderate speed (like 70-90).
 
Fossil pokemon ideas:

Stegosaurus
Tricerotops
Velicoraptor
Leoplyuradon (<-or however you spell the name of that thing)
and no doubt a ton more of different species ancient dinosaurs.

If anything they could use ancient empires as ideas (A Jackal pokemon anyone or an Egyptian god...oh god now I'm making Pokemon sound like Yugioh...*Exodia attacks has no legs to kick with! Exodia used Low Arm! Super Effective!*)
 
It's hard for them to run out of fossil ideas. They made Anorith which they said is an ancient shrimp so I have no idea why it's a Bug-type. I have never heard of an ancient shrimp so who knows what animals they make fossils out of. They also made Cradily which is a plant. They could go crazy with fossil plants.
 
It's hard for them to run out of fossil ideas. They made Anorith which they said is an ancient shrimp so I have no idea why it's a Bug-type. I have never heard of an ancient shrimp so who knows what animals they make fossils out of. They also made Cradily which is a plant. They could go crazy with fossil plants.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anomalocaris

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trilobite

also where kabuto comes from...
unless he is supposed to be a horse shoe crab.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horse_shoe_crab
 
Some awesome DOUBLE type combinations I want to see:
Fly/Fight
Normal/Ghost
Fire/Water
Fire/Grass
Electric/Ground
Ghost/Steel
Bug/Ground (Nincada and Wormadam don't count)
Ground/Fight
Fight/Ghost

Fire/Electric is awesome, but is completely wrecked by ground types and SR.

Also, triple types suck, btw.


Yes to this. I've been wanting a giant Bug/Ground worm ever since I read Dune in Sixth Grade. Copyright issues be damned!

All those type combinations you thought up sound pretty cool (did you know that Fighting is the only type that hasn't yet been combined with Flying?), but I think the type that really needs the most lovin' when it comes to dual combinations is Electric. In four generations of games, Electric has only been paired with four different types (Steel, Water, Flying, and Ghost) and each of those pairings has only gone to one evolutionary line. That's just cheap.

Also, here's an interesting bit of trivia I found while digging around on Bulbapedia: "Each generation of Pokemon has introduced Electric Pokemon with names beginning in E, M, and P.*" So for those out there wondering why Pachirisu ever saw the light of day, you have an explanation...not an excuse, but an explanation.

Given this tradition, what do you think the new Electric types in Black and White will be? I'm predicting an Electrode evo for the E, a Manectric evo for the M (dare to dream!), and a Pachirusu evo for the P. Hopefully, Isshu will introduce a lot more Electric Pokemon, which seems likely given the pictures of industrialized cities and floating electric rocks we've already seen.

*EMP is an acronym for "electromagnetic pulse".

Man...so many paleontologists on this forum or a bunch of dorky kids...you guys tell me.

Or just a bunch of people who know how to use Wikipedia and Google.
 
Sorry, but I'm no scientist. I just think most of us are just really observant. Anyways, @McLuvdisc: I really never noticed that!! That's pretty cool. EMP, hmm...and that's been under my nose for quite some time. No doubt had to do with tradition as well (Electrode, Magneton, Pikachu started it all...).
 
Kabuto is based off of the horseshoe crab, which I believe hasn't changed much through thousands of years of evolution.

The EMP thing is pretty amazing, but just because there are going to be new Electric Pokemon in the next generation doesn't mean that the pokemon starting with those letters will gain evolutions. It just means we'll be getting new Electric pokemon starting with those names (In theory).
 
Don't forget Megalodon! A gigantic prehistoric shark. Evolves from Sharpedo when it levels up using Brine, massive gains in HP, DEF and SDEF at the cost of SPE and SATK. Water/Steel. Or it could be its own standalone line; can never have too many shark pokemon...
 
That Megalodon looks too much like the great white for people to really notice. Sharpedo looks like its missing the last half of its body so they could make a shark submarine (Agua/Acero) that shoots Sharpedos like Vespiquen shoots Combees.
 
Well yes, it's not guaranteed that they will all be evolutions. Two out of the last three, however, were evolutions (Electivire and Magnezone) so it's not out of the question. All three of the Pokemon I mentioned could really use an evo, especially the uselessness that is Pachirisu.

Just for the record, here's the list:

Gen 1: Electrode, Magnemite, Pikachu
Gen 2: Elekid, Mareep, Pichu
Gen 3: Electrike, Minun, Plusle
Gen 4: Electivire, Magnezone, Pachirisu
 
Don't forget Megalodon! A gigantic prehistoric shark. Evolves from Sharpedo when it levels up using Brine, massive gains in HP, DEF and SDEF at the cost of SPE and SATK. Water/Steel. Or it could be its own standalone line; can never have too many shark pokemon...
No, just no... We don't need another Wailord with Empoleon typing...
 
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