Pokemon Black & White, aka Gen 5. Coming to Japan in Fall 2010.

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Mario With Lasers said:
???-type Arceus's Judgment ~__~


Yeah, I don't think they'll create such a move. From the looks of it, the ???-type is meant to be merely a gimmick.
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Would be awesome if Tri Attack would like that >.<, but that would make Porygon-Z insanely powerful lol.

Speaking of Porygon, I want to see a bulky alternative defense orientated version, Porygon-Y? Hehe, with some ability called Upload which would raise up defense based on the opponents highest attacking stat 8D! Not sure how useful it would be me, but I would love to see it.
 
Oh forgot some other things

I wish they would nerf Stealth Rock somehow. I know there's already been a conversation about this so I'll just offer my suggestion. I think the point of Stealth Rock was to hit flying types (my guess, could be wrong.) You could either have it just do 25% to all flyers and levitators OR just cut all the damage in half. Hopefully that should solve the problem and get guys like Moltres up in usage.

Also, I want to see that Sandstorm Sp Def GONE! Really this mainly affects Tyranitar but yeah that's bogus in my opinion. I understand weather is supposed to have effects like Sunny Day and increased fire power, but this sandstorm thing makes a lot of pokemon set up bait for Tar.
 
General Tso said:
Also, I want to see that Sandstorm Sp Def GONE! Really this mainly affects Tyranitar but yeah that's bogus in my opinion. I understand weather is supposed to have effects like Sunny Day and increased fire power, but this sandstorm thing makes a lot of pokemon set up bait for Tar.
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Not really, Tyranitar needs to invest stats take make the most use of Sandstorm buff, pluss its gonna need HP to back that as well so its making itself slower which is already can't really afford and physically weaker to be bulky. Unless your team is focused primarily on special attacks Tyranitar in the sand shouldn't be a big issues, well placed fighting moves like CC still rape it or force it to run.

Whats honestly dangerous are some of the Pokemon that get buff in the sand, lol, Curse Regirock is a beast in the sand, Shuckle as well only fearing being tricked.
 
TsengHyena said:
I don't know. Unless they do some really unique type combinations this time (Some decent Poison pokemon please? Poison/Steel would be good.) then frankly, I wouldn't mind a new type. It really won't kill the game, unless the Type is super effective against everything. The game needs something new battle-wise and not just new modes.

If we do get Light, make it Super Effective against Dark (Villainous people are put to the sword), Ghost (The undead are exorcised) Poison (Purity cures Pollution) and Psychic (Witches are smited by Good), but weak to Poison (But Purity can be corrupted by Pollution) and Fighting (War destroys Peace). Maybe one more weakness, but I can't think of any other 'Good' themed ones.
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Yeah, that's exactly what Psychic, Dark and Ghost need- more weaknesses despite limited attacking power. Oh, and fighting needs more things it can be super effective against! It only has 5.

Also, I don't see why everyone needs evolutions. We need some filler in games- not every Pokemon needs to be epic. Tangela was not meant to be a badass, he was meant to be a quiet little grass type.

As far as the conflict between legendaries/factions, I think from the legendaries we can see a urbanization/technology vs. purity/nature. I would add pollution to the first one, but I think it would ruin the neutrality.
 
General Tso said:
Also, I want to see that Sandstorm Sp Def GONE! Really this mainly affects Tyranitar but yeah that's bogus in my opinion. I understand weather is supposed to have effects like Sunny Day and increased fire power, but this sandstorm thing makes a lot of pokemon set up bait for Tar.
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that's just silly. Tyranitar getting a bogus boost is no reason to remove it. Other rock types benefit from it, without it being bogus; that's a good thing. we don't want interesting features removed just because one Pokemon gives you trouble because of it.
 
omg toxic spork avatar is epic win.

has much i enjoy unique typing combos, i just want more simple stuff like flying/fighting, dark/fighting. eletric/fighting and other combos, why? cause i like the fighting type, it combo well with almost all types.
 
Spike Razzor said:
Not really, Tyranitar needs to invest stats take make the most use of Sandstorm buff, pluss its gonna need HP to back that as well so its making itself slower which is already can't really afford and physically weaker to be bulky. Unless your team is focused primarily on special attacks Tyranitar in the sand shouldn't be a big issues, well placed fighting moves like CC still rape it or force it to run.

Whats honestly dangerous are some of the Pokemon that get buff in the sand, lol, Curse Regirock is a beast in the sand, Shuckle as well only fearing being tricked.
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Without investment Tyranitar's base Special Defense is roughly base 159... Of course, as you said it is still easy to defeat, but nearly no special move can OHKO (similar to Hippowdon + physical attacks).

EDIT: As for the whole nature vs. technology thing... I just realized how similar it could be to Avatar's plot. That could be good, or it could be bad, depends.
 
Uberiffic said:
Damn't! I come back from vacation, and there are 40+ more pages?
Any news?
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depend, did you saw the new digimons that came inside our pokemon universe? one look like satan and the other is jesus. main legends from the new games, the black one appears on white version and vice versa.

edit:the white one is palkia brother, it also got a male sexual organ format body part(the fur between the legs)
 
Lucalibur said:
depend, did you saw the new digimons that came inside our pokemon universe? one look like satan and the other is jesus.
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lmfao...

In what religion does satan look cool (aka not have cheesy horns)? xD

Anyways, here they are:

reshiram-zekrom.jpg
 
Hey no one has talked about the possibility of a light type on this page so I'm going to :D

I'm not against a light type, I just don't think it will happen, until I thought this: If psychic is suppose to be the "light" type, then why is dark super effective against it? That's the one problem with the theory that psychic is the light type, because I think light > dark.
I mean it, I don't want to think it, but everytime I see reshiram, I think it' going to be a light type.
 
Obsessed said:
The hands on the white legend are so out of place. They look like vestigial parts of the wing.
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I'm thinking the opposite: the wings are just there for some reason or another. I'm guessing it can glide (like Gliscor or Scizor) but the hands are the primary function of the arms. Zekrom also looks like it could glide, but its wings don't look like they are primarily for flying. The plates on his arms look like armor and maybe he can fold his wings inwards to protect himself. This is why I don't believe Reshiram is part flying.
 
blasphemy1 said:
Without investment Tyranitar's base Special Defense is roughly base 159... Of course, as you said it is still easy to defeat, but nearly no special move can OHKO (similar to Hippowdon + physical attacks).

EDIT: As for the whole nature vs. technology thing... I just realized how similar it could be to Avatar's plot. That could be good, or it could be bad, depends.
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Yeah, Tyranitars 600 BST are very well placed so its versatile.

Whats with the this nature vs techology stuff I hear a few random people talking about? I just don't see how that's even viable. Zek being black doesn't mean it has anything to do with steel, much less technology and when I think nature the first type that comes to mind is Grass and there is no way you could convince me Res is one.
 
When you look at Zek and Res you can clearly see that the detail lines on Zek are all straight and angular and he's very sleek. These are all things commonly used to signify technology and man-made things. Res has details that are less symmetrical and more chaotic. Less smooth and angular and more rough. These signify more natural concepts. It's pretty obvious.
 
Scuba Stevee said:
If psychic is suppose to be the "light" type,
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Who said Psychic had anything to do with Light? Every time I hear that, that miffs me. Psychic in Japan is literally "Esper", which has nothing to do with light or any good concepts, just psychic abilities and powers (You know, like a Psychic normally does.)

If anything, Fighting is the "Light", or "good" type, solely because, while Dark, or "Aku", deals with dirty tactics and overall cheating, Fighting, or "Kakutou" deals with the honorable way of fighting.

Seriously, I want to find this site/guide/text document that says Psychic in Japan = Light. It's unnerving.
 
Spike Razzor said:
Yeah, Tyranitars 600 BST are very well placed so its versatile.

Whats with the this nature vs techology stuff I hear a few random people talking about? I just don't see how that's even viable. Zek being black doesn't mean it has anything to do with steel, much less technology and when I think nature the first type that comes to mind is Grass and there is no way you could convince me Res is one.
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It is just a theory:

- the new region Isshu appears to be rather industrious and there are huge cities with skyscrapers
- Zekrom's tail is like a drill and he has less organic contour lines than Reshiram. This could symbolize the mechanization and features of Isshu, while Reshiram symbolizes the natural essence of the region.

That's all I have really speculated, and also that black and white are opposites. They can symbolize any opposites, like night and day, wind and earth, technology and nature, etc.

EDIT: Wikey beat me. xD
 
Ming-Ming said:
Who said Psychic had anything to do with Light? Every time I hear that, that miffs me. Psychic in Japan is literally "Esper", which has nothing to do with light or any good concepts, just psychic abilities and powers (You know, like a Psychic normally does.)

If anything, Fighting is the "Light", or "good" type, solely because, while Dark, or "Aku", deals with dirty tactics and overall cheating, Fighting, or "Kakutou" deals with the honorable way of fighting.

Seriously, I want to find this site/guide/text document that says Psychic in Japan = Light. It's unnerving.
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Well that was what I was getting at, but you did it better xD
 
T-major said:
that's just silly. Tyranitar getting a bogus boost is no reason to remove it. Other rock types benefit from it, without it being bogus; that's a good thing. we don't want interesting features removed just because one Pokemon gives you trouble because of it.
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Don't get me wrong, I love Ttar and using him. I don't have really a logical explanation for wanting this. Maybe I just want to make him counter less pokes :p

Psychic is not really the "opposite" of the Dark type. Dark was brought in to make Psychic less effective so I guess a Light type wouldn't out of the question, but think about it. "Good" pokemon? "Angelic" pokemon? I guess it makes about as much sense as Dark pokemon, but I think it's easier to explain dark types than light types.
 
I really don't like the idea of good and evil in Pokemon because it is really just subjective (other than Cyrus who harmed people and Pokemon in order to make a universe entirely for himself). I hope a possible Light type would just represent what it is-light. Light vs. Dark is a lot less controversial than Good vs. Evil.
 
Spike Razzor said:
Would be awesome if Tri Attack would like that >.<, but that would make Porygon-Z insanely powerful lol.

Speaking of Porygon, I want to see a bulky alternative defense orientated version, Porygon-Y? Hehe, with some ability called Upload which would raise up defense based on the opponents highest attacking stat 8D! Not sure how useful it would be me, but I would love to see it.
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Huh, this sounds like a really interesting idea, and actually has a chance to become reality. However, assuming Porygon-Y would evolve from P2, I would always choose the incredibly useful Trace over the Upload ability you suggest. Still, good thoughts!

Also, about the much-debated Light type: I've been wanting it for a long time, but the main reason I want it is to bring balance to the type chart. Ex, something like this:
(Offense): SE against Steel, Dark, Bug; NVE against Grass, Fire, Psychic
(Defense): Resists Fire, Fighting, Water, Dragon(?); Weak to Dark, Poison, Psychic

That's the best I can think of, anyone have suggestions as to what they think would be appropriate?
 
blasphemy1 said:
It is just a theory:

- the new region Isshu appears to be rather industrious and there are huge cities with skyscrapers
- Zekrom's tail is like a drill and he has less organic contour lines than Reshiram. This could symbolize the mechanization and features of Isshu, while Reshiram symbolizes the natural essence of the region.

That's all I have really speculated, and also that black and white are opposites. They can symbolize any opposites, like night and day, wind and earth, technology and nature, etc.

EDIT: Wikey beat me. xD
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Holy $hit, that was a divine comment.
 
Well instead of light and dark being SE against each other, what about they do normal damage to each other? Reason I think this is that light can not exist with out darkness and vice-versa.
 
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