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Rng hgss help
Hi everybody,
someone knows how to increase frames by 100 or more on hgss?
Hi everybody,
someone knows how to increase frames by 100 or more on hgss?
I need some help with ID/SID abuse. I've ID/SID abused several times before, and haven't ran into any problems until thus far:
I set my first timer to 40.00 seconds
I set my second timer to 80.50 seconds
I set the timer and the time on my DS at the exact same time, then hit the game icon when the first timer reaches 20.00 seconds. I then rush through the game sequence until I reach the "teachy TV" screen and wait for the second timer to count down to 0.00. I enter the game at 0.00 seconds. The date and time on my DS is 01/01/2010 and 1:02, respectively. I plugged these numbers into Wild Eep's ID Finder, along with my Trainer ID obtained so I can try and find out my delay and seconds.
According to past experience with the same timer values, my delay should be around 5400 and my seconds should be 1. However, I keep getting obscure delays and seconds (ex: delay:6577, seconds:37). Does anybody know what could be the problem? I have checked and double checked that I am putting in the correct date/time/ID, and have tested this at least 5 times, each time with widely varying delays/seconds. I am using pikatimer if that helps you answer my question.
I set my first timer to 40.00 seconds
I set my second timer to 80.50 seconds
I set the timer and the time on my DS at the exact same time, then hit the game icon when the first timer reaches 20.00 seconds. I then rush through the game sequence until I reach the "teachy TV" screen and wait for the second timer to count down to 0.00. I enter the game at 0.00 seconds. The date and time on my DS is 01/01/2010 and 1:02, respectively. I plugged these numbers into Wild Eep's ID Finder, along with my Trainer ID obtained so I can try and find out my delay and seconds.
According to past experience with the same timer values, my delay should be around 5400 and my seconds should be 1. However, I keep getting obscure delays and seconds (ex: delay:6577, seconds:37). Does anybody know what could be the problem? I have checked and double checked that I am putting in the correct date/time/ID, and have tested this at least 5 times, each time with widely varying delays/seconds. I am using pikatimer if that helps you answer my question.
You can ask someone to check your SID here :
http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=72493
Reposting because no one answered, and I'd really need help on that one.
http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=72493
Reposting because no one answered, and I'd really need help on that one.
There are a few people on this forum who can find your SID for you via pokésav or alternate methods. Just ask in the "Simple Requests" forum and someone will probably help you free of charge.
If you have the correct SID and if something is going wrong, I suggest watching these videos, they help a lot:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-rTD22GHAI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T40oaiVrR5g&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npyP1UUlIpg&feature=related
Hope that helped ;)
I need a answer. I cannot RNG at all with this happening!
For you to be finding 524 you have at least +/- 75 on the delay. That is WAY too much. Same with the seconds.
+/- 10 on the delay
+/- 1 on the seconds
I get swinging delays on HG all the time. I either change the date/hour of the catch and see if this one is more stable, or I try a different seed with the same target IVs/ability, or I just decide which Pikatimer setting is most likely to land me on the target delay despite the swings and I don't adjust Pikatimer any further.
For delays that aren't swinging too far either direction, I use the last option, and I also do the following: if your target delay is even, like 632, then try to make Pikatimer land you on the odd delay one up or one lower than 632, like 631 or 633. I find that doing this often defeats whatever problem is keeping you one or two even delays higher or lower than the target. You do this by inputting an odd other delay in the other delay box.
For delays that aren't swinging too far either direction, I use the last option, and I also do the following: if your target delay is even, like 632, then try to make Pikatimer land you on the odd delay one up or one lower than 632, like 631 or 633. I find that doing this often defeats whatever problem is keeping you one or two even delays higher or lower than the target. You do this by inputting an odd other delay in the other delay box.
Hmmmm, I have a question.
I was trying to catch a Zapdos with a 867 frame (all three birds were intact, Zapdos is my first method 1 rng). With no roamers out I figured I needed a total of 428 flips and 128 steps with 5 pokemon to reach 861 and adding the 6 from Zapdos it would give me my magical number.
Well, I went onwards with that for 10 times never hitting the correct frame. In three clear cases I messed up my math for one reason or another, leaving six where I hit another frame and the one where I finally caught the pesky bird. Strange thing was that going through my notes, all those other six times I was always hitting frame 874. So I figured: 874-6 is 868 so if I don't take the 128 steps and one journal flip less, I would totally hit my frame. And so I did.
What really leaves me clueless here is that this also happened to me while going for Palkia (the RNG was also advanced already by seven frames) and the fact that nowhere in this thread or in the guide says something about those strange 7 frames my game was always adding up. I would really appreciate if someone could help me shed some light on these strange frames I have been getting in my last legendary RNG'ing (Because when going for Dialga and heatran it didn't happen to me)
I was trying to catch a Zapdos with a 867 frame (all three birds were intact, Zapdos is my first method 1 rng). With no roamers out I figured I needed a total of 428 flips and 128 steps with 5 pokemon to reach 861 and adding the 6 from Zapdos it would give me my magical number.
Well, I went onwards with that for 10 times never hitting the correct frame. In three clear cases I messed up my math for one reason or another, leaving six where I hit another frame and the one where I finally caught the pesky bird. Strange thing was that going through my notes, all those other six times I was always hitting frame 874. So I figured: 874-6 is 868 so if I don't take the 128 steps and one journal flip less, I would totally hit my frame. And so I did.
What really leaves me clueless here is that this also happened to me while going for Palkia (the RNG was also advanced already by seven frames) and the fact that nowhere in this thread or in the guide says something about those strange 7 frames my game was always adding up. I would really appreciate if someone could help me shed some light on these strange frames I have been getting in my last legendary RNG'ing (Because when going for Dialga and heatran it didn't happen to me)
I hate to repost...but this never got answered:
I need some help with ID/SID abuse. I've ID/SID abused several times before, and haven't ran into any problems until thus far:
I set my first timer to 40.00 seconds
I set my second timer to 80.50 seconds
I set the timer and the time on my DS at the exact same time, then hit the game icon when the first timer reaches 20.00 seconds. I then rush through the game sequence until I reach the "teachy TV" screen and wait for the second timer to count down to 0.00. I enter the game at 0.00 seconds. The date and time on my DS is 01/01/2010 and 1:02, respectively. I plugged these numbers into Wild Eep's ID Finder, along with my Trainer ID obtained so I can try and find out my delay and seconds.
According to past experience with the same timer values, my delay should be around 5400 and my seconds should be 1. However, I keep getting obscure delays and seconds (ex: delay:6577, seconds:37). Does anybody know what could be the problem? I have checked and double checked that I am putting in the correct date/time/ID, and have tested this at least 5 times, each time with widely varying delays/seconds. I am using pikatimer if that helps you answer my question.
I need some help with ID/SID abuse. I've ID/SID abused several times before, and haven't ran into any problems until thus far:
I set my first timer to 40.00 seconds
I set my second timer to 80.50 seconds
I set the timer and the time on my DS at the exact same time, then hit the game icon when the first timer reaches 20.00 seconds. I then rush through the game sequence until I reach the "teachy TV" screen and wait for the second timer to count down to 0.00. I enter the game at 0.00 seconds. The date and time on my DS is 01/01/2010 and 1:02, respectively. I plugged these numbers into Wild Eep's ID Finder, along with my Trainer ID obtained so I can try and find out my delay and seconds.
According to past experience with the same timer values, my delay should be around 5400 and my seconds should be 1. However, I keep getting obscure delays and seconds (ex: delay:6577, seconds:37). Does anybody know what could be the problem? I have checked and double checked that I am putting in the correct date/time/ID, and have tested this at least 5 times, each time with widely varying delays/seconds. I am using pikatimer if that helps you answer my question.
I'm trying to RNG Riley's Riolu and I'm slightly confused as to how steps affect the RNG. Here's my understanding, and if anyone could confirm or explain, that would be great:
In an area with Wild Pokemon (Caves, Grass, Water, w/e) 1 Step = +1 Frame?
In an area with no Wild Pokemon 128 Steps = +(# of PkMn in Party) Frame(s)?
I hit my seed on one attempt for the Riolu but it ended up being 14 frames over my target, so I'm assuming it's because I took a few steps before the final battle in that cave.
In an area with Wild Pokemon (Caves, Grass, Water, w/e) 1 Step = +1 Frame?
In an area with no Wild Pokemon 128 Steps = +(# of PkMn in Party) Frame(s)?
I hit my seed on one attempt for the Riolu but it ended up being 14 frames over my target, so I'm assuming it's because I took a few steps before the final battle in that cave.
the part in bold applies everywhere, even in areas with wild pokemon; like caves, grass, etc.
Use their location right before you save. Where they should be if you hit your seed is what Seed to Time gives you, not what you put in.
Sounds like you're using a target time near midnight and letting the DS clock roll over to the next day. That's known to add to the frame.
If this is DPPt, then it's possible it took you part of a second longer to hit A, where one of the NPCs moved. If HG/SS, it's still possible but alot less likely since the only NPC there doesn't move too often. Ass for the spread, I'd keep it so long as it doesn't need the attack stat. 1 off in HP isn't too big a deal most times unless it's weak to SR.
Thanks a lot, I'll try that out!
I'm trying to abuse for IV/SID on my real HG cart (no save states) and I don't know how to find my delay. I've used both the Trainer ID and Seed Finder sections of pandora's box to find the delay but I cannot even find a compatable seed.
Also, to find your seconds you count from when you soft reset to when you start to turn little right?
Also, to find your seconds you count from when you soft reset to when you start to turn little right?
only update if you keep hitting your delay wrong and hit delays that are close to each other
Ex: when I tried to use the pikatimer for the first time I was trying to hit a delay of 944 but I kept on hitting around 924, so I imputed 924 and I hit my delay in the next few trys
If you're breeding, no. If you're catching a pokemon, yes. I'm not sure about what natures can't be hex flawless, though.