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Back in Advance, when I first heard of Blaze, I thought for a moment it would also activate its effect when being hit by Fire-type moves, just like Flash Fire (yeah I heard first of Flash Fire, go figure).

That's the only way I see them upgrading the Swarm-like abilities without them becoming "too good" to Game Freak.




EDIT -- And Mamanbou being a Luvdisc evo would mean it would, at least, have a BST higher than 330...
 
Obsessed said:
GF had no reason to make such a terrible Pokemon anyway. They clearly like to troll us. Making a potential Luvdisk evo and then revealing it to be a unique Pokemon is just another way to troll us. Remember in the old games where you could trade a Spearow for a Farfetched? Classic GF trolling.

Also they clearly said there would only be Gen V until the national dex. So why exactly would they show us a Pokemon that cannot be obtained until after the Elite Four?
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*looks at Electivire*

You know.
Why did they reveal Electivire, anyway. They never made a note about how it evolves, they never made a note of when you could get it, but it was everywhere. It even had an episode in the anime before DP were even released.
Yet it was a trade evo you could only get after the Elite 4, and what's more you could only get one by Pal Parking an Electabuzz OR using the Dongle method.
Which I think you had to do anyway because you could only steal Electerizers & Magmarizers
 
Obsessed said:
GF had no reason to make such a terrible Pokemon anyway.
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I dunno about you, but I was catching them like crazy to grab their heart scales in RSE.

Besides, Pokemon isn't just about competitive pokemon; only a large part of it is. Another large part of it is marketing. You make both cool, awesome, powerful pokemon to attract some audiences(us); as well as cute little weak Pokemon to attract others. Luvdisc is one of those cute little weak pokemon.
 
Why did they reveal Roserade so early when, at the time, Roselia was a really obscure Pokemon?

Can't really say I know what goes through GF's mind when they do the stuff they do. However, I still think Mamanbou is related to Luvdisc.
 
^Roselia was far from obscure, it was heavily promoted through the anime's contest arc.

It looks to me like Swana might be a cross between Gyarados and Wingull as far as stats go. Brave Bird did a good bit to Munna, who seems to be one of the bulkier first-stage pokemon revealed so far. Then it also gets Windstorm which I assume is a special move...seems interesting.
 
IcyMan28 said:
^Roselia was far from obscure, it was heavily promoted through the anime's contest arc.

It looks to me like Swana might be a cross between Gyarados and Wingull as far as stats go. Brave Bird did a good bit to Munna, who seems to be one of the bulkier first-stage pokemon revealed so far. Then it also gets Windstorm which I assume is a special move...seems interesting.
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Aside from Drew's Roselia, I can't really remember it being significant enough to warrant revealing it's evolution so early.
 
its supposed to be a preety pokemon for contests, thats the whole reason the made roselia. then someone said lets evolve it, and thats the end.
 
Then I'm not really sure what you consider "significant enough," as a pokemon showcased in the anime on multiple occasions is much more than can be said for most other pokemon. Plus, Roselia is a special case in that it is the only pokemon to receive both a pre-evolution and new evolution in the same generation, and both of those were revealed early.
 
Near the beginning of info leaks, everyone and their mother was calling "evo" for every 'Mon to be revealed (lol Mightyena->Zoroark), and now people are doubting Luvdisc->Mamanbo? Let's forget for a moment that they're both pink, heart-shaped fish with the exact same typing. Wait, no. That's all the evidence we really need. I admit that Pachi->Emonga isn't a perfect match, but are there ANY two Pokemon that

- Have the same primary color, and I mean NO deviation at all from each other's palette's, save some adjustments to darkness or shine.
- Are based on the same family of animal
- Can be speculatively associated with a certain species of that group. If you don't believe me, look at some of the pictures where the fins on the dorsum and belly are visible. They look a lot like Mamanbo's.
- Share the same, unique, body shape. Find me another Pokemon, or even an animal, shaped like a heart.
- Share the exact same type. No changing secondaries.

Really, find two Pokemon with 4/5 of those traits.
 
yeah, mamanbou prob is related to luvdic. i mean even its name is love related [Mamanbo > MA-MAN-BOU> MY MAN BOO?(speculative)]
 
blasphemy1 said:
Lol, at least you don't get totally owned by Fire-types. /sarcasm :p
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Max Attack Adamant CB Scizor using X-Scissor with theoretical Swarm variation and 5 other bug-types on the team:

vs 0/0 neutral Heatran: 179.9% - 211.8%
vs 252/252 +Def Heatran: 109.1-128.5%

and for good measure:

vs 252/252 +Def Skarmory: 103.6% - 122.2%

but really, the real beast would be Swarm Heracross, since it's faster and has Megahorn instead of X-Scissor, so it can run a Choice Scarf set and OHKO literally every single pokémon in the game, and outspeed almost all of them, barring faster scarfers or swift swimmers (but really, who's gonna have time to set up rain when the premier physical wall is ohko'd on a 4x resistance?)
 
Cubic said:
I have the sudden urge to use Luvdisc in a playthrough of Emerald now..
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After a bunch of Gen 3 talk,I want to play Emerald so bad. I miss the secret bases and the puzzles,and Juan,the best gym leader ever.

And for those who are questioning if Mamanbo is a Luvdisc evo, come on, Its a pink heartshaped fish. Its definatley a Luvdisc evo.
 
Chateau said:
Near the beginning of info leaks, everyone and their mother was calling "evo" for every 'Mon to be revealed (lol Mightyena->Zoroark), and now people are doubting Luvdisc->Mamanbo? Let's forget for a moment that they're both pink, heart-shaped fish with the exact same typing. Wait, no. That's all the evidence we really need. I admit that Pachi->Emonga isn't a perfect match, but are there ANY two Pokemon that

- Have the same primary color, and I mean NO deviation at all from each other's palette's, save some adjustments to darkness or shine.
- Are based on the same family of animal
- Can be speculatively associated with a certain species of that group. If you don't believe me, look at some of the pictures where the fins on the dorsum and belly are visible. They look a lot like Mamanbo's.
- Share the same, unique, body shape. Find me another Pokemon, or even an animal, shaped like a heart.
- Share the exact same type. No changing secondaries.

Really, find two Pokemon with 4/5 of those traits.
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Do you want us to find two Pokemon that aren't related or are related? Your post seems like it starts saying two different Pokemon but then winds up saying by evoltuion

cause if related
Aipom & Ambipom, Roselia & Roserade, Finneon & Lumineon, Cranidos & Rampardos, Zubat & Golbat, hmmm do Bulbasaur & Ivysaur have the same coloring? I know they get darker at one point along the chain, I'm sure there are more these were just off the top of my head.
 
R_N said:
Do you want us to find two Pokemon that aren't related or are related? Your post seems like it starts saying two different Pokemon but then winds up saying by evoltuion

cause if related
Aipom & Ambipom, Roselia & Roserade, Finneon & Lumineon, Cranidos & Rampardos, Zubat & Golbat, hmmm do Bulbasaur & Ivysaur have the same coloring? I know they get darker at one point along the chain, I'm sure there are more these were just off the top of my head.
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He wants pokémon that share at least 4 of those characteristics and yet are not related.


I cannot think of any right now.
 
R_N said:
Do you want us to find two Pokemon that aren't related or are related? Your post seems like it starts saying two different Pokemon but then winds up saying by evoltuion

cause if related
Aipom & Ambipom, Roselia & Roserade, Finneon & Lumineon, Cranidos & Rampardos, Zubat & Golbat, hmmm do Bulbasaur & Ivysaur have the same coloring? I know they get darker at one point along the chain, I'm sure there are more these were just off the top of my head.
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No, I'm saying you can't find Pokemon that are so similar, but they're unrelated, proving with little doubt that Luvdisc is related to Mamanbo.

Edit: Mario With Lasers got it right.
 
A "mambo" is another name for sunfish, notable for their extremely shitty body plan... not really, but it is really awful. But they are cool fish. They just add an "u" sound at the end for some reason and either made it a portmanteau with "mama" or replicated the first syllable for the hell of it.

Mamambou has got to be a Luvdisc evo. There's just no way it isn't. I can accept Emonga, but not Mamambou.

@Chateau: While I agree in general, you failed to mention theme. Though I suppose in the case of Luvdisc that would be the heart shape, so I guess you did albeit not in a way that covered all other Pokemon. Theme is really the only way to explain evolutions like Remoraid -> Octillery.
 
I just thought of Venonat->Butterfree, but I've heard that that was supposed to be the evo line anyway. And they really only have the colors.
 
PKMN Trainer Manson said:
A "mambo" is another name for sunfish, notable for their extremely shitty body plan... not really, but it is really awful. But they are cool fish. They just add an "u" sound at the end for some reason and either made it a portmanteau with "mama" or replicated the first syllable for the hell of it.
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then if im wrong, the american romanization will some how relate it to love. or my name isnt satchmo
 
Chateau said:
I just thought of Venonat->Butterfree, but I've heard that that was supposed to be the evo line anyway. And they really only have the colors.
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That's just a conspiracy theory, like the one where people think Cubone is a baby Kangaskhan. It was almost surely never "supposed to be the evo line" just like Cubone isn't a baby Kangaskhan. It's just a similarity between Gen I Pokemon which is more common then you might think considering how much people rail against later Gens for "unoriginality".
 
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