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So I'm guessing I'm the only person still agreeing with CRASHiC? lol. I'm just in denial until solid confirmed evidence comes out.

Wasn't it said the page with all the starter evolutions on from a different booklet? Not to mention, the pig, the one we didn't know about in the first place, was confirmed. And a few of Melkor's Pokemon were confirmed. The only strange thing was that he had originally said there was no Shikijika evolution, which turned out to be false. It just seems like the holdouts after this Corocoro are just clinging to false hope.
 
The different booklet is still fake. Japanese do not read from left to right, printing a book in that direction is incredibly improbable.

Tseng, they are dinosaurs. Look all of them up on Bulbapedia if you don't believe me. Fosils aren't dinosaurs either. So far, only Aerodactyl and Rampardose has been a dinosaur.
 
Poopy/Puppy is not cute! It looks like a zoophiliac has ejaculated onto its face, and the puppy was so retarded all it could do was blink it out of its eyes, and then it congealed and became a permanent facial feature. Kind of like a full-face beard. Shinx, Gengar and Nidoran are cute.

And people arguing with Crashic, 'dinosaur-based' isn't the same as 'a Dinosaur'. Meganium has the physiology of a Sauropod (I think), but it isn't a Sauropod. Its just based off one, and that's what Crashic is trying to say. Meganium is waaay too cute to be a dinosaur.
 
Dont get me wrong, im still hopeing the starters are fake....they are the only pokemons that failed to impress me so far, but the fact is: there is nothing to prove 100% that they are fake.
 
And people arguing with Crashic, 'dinosaur-based' isn't the same as 'a Dinosaur'. Meganium has the physiology of a Sauropod (I think), but it isn't a Sauropod. Its just based off one, and that's what Crashic is trying to say. Meganium is waaay too cute to be a dinosaur.

Well that should be given since its Pokemon. TTar is a TRex based, but no pokemon is litterally an animal.
 
pux, you are clearly a troll if you don't believe they are dinosaur based.

Gabur, Again, I'm not agreeing with anything. With rumors as gigantic as this, I'm willing to withold judgment until confirmed, and am willing to address any possible rumors/speculation/evidence.

Torterra's line is obviously based on the World Turtle mythology of China, India and certain Native American tribes.

There's nothing really backing up that Sceptile is based on any kind of crested carnivorous dinosaur. Both of its prevos are geckos and lizards and so is it.

If it is on Bulbapedia, so what? If something is written on a free-to-edit wiki that doesn't make it concrete, it is not like we are getting this from the mouths of the character designers themselves.

If you are still unprepared to listen to reason (and with every news item about Obama being Muslim or the prayer centre in Manhattan being a mosque right on top of Ground Zero it becomes more apparent that most people will defend their misinformed beliefs even when overwhelming evidence proves contrary), just bear in mind that with every generation Gamefreak breaks at least one trend that we thought would stick.
 
*cough* Dialga is Steel/Dragon *cough*

Isnt Afro Break kind of a racist move? What about Aloe, black woman dressed like a cook looking like an 18th century slave woman.

Call me a Negative Nancy if you'd like but didnt Gamefreak/Nintendo/Pokemon/whatever got sued back years ago just becouse Jinx had black skin?

cuz only dem negras can grow dem kotun like fros


Guys, the new cat isn't normal ya know. It can still evolve into something, and the typing alone sets it apart.

Apparently it evolves into a sleek, elegant Panther. Hopefully the Panther looks as cool as it sounds, because that black cat is pretty lame (Glameow is a dark coat!). Also, LOL @ N using it... hurr durr N lookin' tough with his pussy cat. All the more reason the evo must look really badass.

Melkor (aka Pokexperto) updates again:

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568: Garbage Bag Pokémon. A green garbage bag with eyes. Its arms are formed of grey dirt coming out from the bag. Pure Poison Type.

...err.

o_________O well then...

This board will trust 2chan but not 4chan lol.

doesn't mean you should trust blatant trolls on 4Chan that come with "exclusive" info. Like that screenshot you posted of the "real" evos, which is absolute bullshit and you're a fool for even having a bit of faith in that.
 
Tseng, they are dinosaurs. Look all of them up on Bulbapedia if you don't believe me. Fosils aren't dinosaurs either. So far, only Aerodactyl and Rampardose has been a dinosaur.

Oh, and by the way, pterodactyls were not dinosaurs. Of the fossils, both Rampardos and Bastiodon were dinosaurs but that's it.
 
Torterra's line is obviously based on the World Turtle mythology of China, India and certain Native American tribes.

There's nothing really backing up that Sceptile is based on any kind of crested carnivorous dinosaur. Both of its prevos are geckos and lizards and so is it.

If it is on Bulbapedia, so what? If something is written on a free-to-edit wiki that doesn't make it concrete, it is not like we are getting this from the mouths of the character designers themselves.

If you are still unprepared to listen to reason (and with every news item about Obama being Muslim or the prayer centre in Manhattan being a mosque right on top of Ground Zero it becomes more apparent that most people will defend their misinformed beliefs even when overwhelming evidence proves contrary), just bear in mind that with every generation Gamefreak breaks at least one trend that we thought would stick.

I don't need to say any more, as this answers the debate.
 
Has anyone hypothesized about Denchura getting Spider Web and Baton Pass (kinda like Ariados) and also being somewhat speedy (being an electric type).

Trap on the switch, then pass to a counter before they can hit you. This is all based on Denchura not having shit stats and getting BP, but it looks like it could be pretty good.

I know Umbreon can do this, but it can't really do much offensively either and is usually stopped by taunters/phasing.
 
Also pointing out that GF tends to put more thought into their starter pokemon than "Let's make the grass one a gecko this time" or "Hey, World turtles are cool". They're obviously going to have aspects of different creatures and, in the Grasses' case, plants. Grovyle certainly has some dino aspects, but it also has strong roots (hehe) in the gecko and lizard family. Torterra obviously has that concept of a World Turtle, but it also resembles snapping turtles and ankylosauri. Bottom line, the reason you'll never agree on what animal the starters are based on is that they aren't based on just one, or even two for the most part.
 
Has anyone hypothesized about Denchura getting Spider Web and Baton Pass (kinda like Ariados) and also being somewhat speedy (being an electric type).

Trap on the switch, then pass to a counter before they can hit you. This is all based on Denchura not having shit stats and getting BP, but it looks like it could be pretty good.


Possibly but bug is a pretty bad typing and goes pretty poorly with electric.
I can't see it going past UU but who knows, anythings possible.
 
Oh jesus fucking christ you people are impossible.
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Look at the head and compare it to Sceptile. They are the same.

Torrterra is based on the mythology of the world turtle, yes, but it is not uncommon at all for pokemon to be based on multiple things at one time. The body shape, size, and the spike like protective barriers, as well as the shell not covering its entire body is clearly indicative of its origin. Furthermore, its 1st form is ALSO A FUCKING DINOSAUR.
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Turtles have shells incasing their upper and lower body. The torterra line does not.
 
Yeah, in general most Pokemon are like that. They are not just based on 1 myth, or 1 species. It's a melting pot of a bunch of ideas and influences to form something standalone.
 
Also pointing out that GF tends to put more thought into their starter pokemon than "Let's make the grass one a gecko this time" or "Hey, World turtles are cool".

It's kinda funny you mention that because that's exactly what one of the designers said they said about Mijumaru. "Hey, wouldn't a sea otter make a good starter?" But they probably meant it jokingly, and the description of its evolution is a good show of how it really is hard to say what specific animals starters (and a lot of other Pokemon) are based on.
 
Possibly but bug is a pretty bad typing and goes pretty poorly with electric.
I can't see it going past UU but who knows, anythings possible.

Denchura definitely has a spot on my team, if only for looks. however, i'd bet its fast considering electric type, but if it doesn't evolve, or have fantastic non-evolving stats, i agree with the UU statement.

However the baton/spiderweb trap combo could be useful in a plethora of games. assuming fast speed

oh and on a side note: bug/electric typing. This thing should be made to take starmie down.
 
Yes, Torterra is basically a world turtle (you can tell that from the name - tortoise + terra - Earth), but how could it get its jaws? It's not like in the 'Worldturtlemon' meeting, some designer just piped up and said "Why don't we draw zigzags on its jaws?' That isn't how the design process works, especially not in pokemon. As you can tell from the numerous interviews with designers, everything in pokemon is based on something. And every grass starter has at least aspects of a dinosaur/something alive in the Triassic-Cretaceous era.

And Sargento, we're talking professional magazine editors here. Reshiram's nose is cut off. That kind of thing doesn't happen in this industry, so I maintain that that scan in particular is fake.
 
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