You know, I just realized, we got an explanation about why Mijumaru is a samurai, but we weren't told why Tsutarja had limbs, hahaha...
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Hey guys.. One thing that makes me believe that the starters are true is the interview in pokepia (translation at pokebeach) the designers say that mijimaru evolves from a sea otter to sea lion and that tsutajas last stage is a snake and the two first stages dont look the same in personility .. And a sea otter thts a samurai haha (they laughed in the interview lolz) and the fact that pokabu3 looks chinese mijamaru is a japanese samurai and tsutaja being a western refrence so yeah that seemz true but the scans are fake alryt..
Seriously, I thought this was a Bug type when I saw the sprite, but the full size image makes up for it. I just hope it gets more speed than Rampardos, and either Earthquake or Close Combat (preferably Earthquake thanks to Mold Breaker) Rivalry also looks like it could have some niche use, given that hardly anyone changes their pokemon to females.
Also, this has to get a Steel type attack of some description. :D
Oh jesus fucking christ you people are impossible.
Look at the head and compare it to Sceptile. They are the same.
i don't see any resemblance. lol
Doesn't really change much when each pokemon has a 'dominant' reference that its based on.
You can maintain it all you like, but the onus of proof is on you.
Actually, I don't know why you think electric/bug is a bad type combo. Look at the type chart...they compliment each other very well offensively. Defensively, it not great (stealth rock weakness), but bug does give electric help with ground and fighting moves, so it's not bad. It doesn't look like Denchura will be taking too many hits anyways.
Wut. Look at the head. Then look again. It shares the same 'head-valley' with Sceptile, and the stripe with the V on Sceptile's chest. It's just been inverted.
That's hardly a hard-fast rule that they have to adhere to, though. And besides...
"There has only been one generation per handheld so far! Black & White can't be on the DS!"
"The regional dex always begins with the grass starter, and so does each region's part of the national dex! Victini can't be #000/#494!"
"All the regions so far have been based on Japan! Isshu must be based on Japan too!"
"All the games since GSC have had old Pokemon! BW must have old Pokemon too!"
"They've always gone with new routes! They can't be reusing routes/starting over at Route 1 again! Doesn't make sense!"
Yeah... No. Screw precedent--doesn't mean much this gen, as far as I'm seeing. Tsutarja's line having nothing in common with a dinosaur wouldn't bother or surprise me at all as of this point, especially since that's a lot more minor of a point than some of the other stuff they've been changing.
Pokemon designs are based off a number of things. Get over it.
A variety of modern-day reptiles have that though.
You can't claim it as false without proof that shows its false, expecially not something stupid about the page numbers.
Lol, CRASHiC, I love that you use a character from "The Land Before Time" as evidence for your case.
Yeah, obviously different elements from different creatures are brought in, but there's not enough saurian about the Treecko & Turtwig lines to give credence to the idea that all Grass starters are based on dinosaurs or that Tsutaja's evolutions are fakes.
ETA: Re: Mijumaru's 'weird' Stage 2 - in the designers' roundtable interview that was recently published they said explicitly that they wanted to go in a different direction with the otters and make the final stage something 'completely different'. There you go, it's completely different!
Yeah, obviously different elements from different creatures are brought in, but there's not enough saurian about the Treecko & Turtwig lines to give credence to the idea that all Grass starters are based on dinosaurs or that Tsutaja's evolutions are fakes.
ETA: Re: Mijumaru's 'weird' Stage 2 - in the designers' roundtable interview that was recently published they said explicitly that they wanted to go in a different direction with the otters and make the final stage something 'completely different'. There you go, it's completely different!
Evolution-wise, doesn't it make sense though that a snake that has arms legs would eventually evolve to lose the arms and legs, like real snakes? And the design of Tsutarja3 meshes with the aristocratic look they were going for, especially with the "The Rose of Versailles" inspiration with all the curliness and everything.
Yeah, that makes sense.
I'm talking about the Dinosaur thing. That's well reguarded in the pokemon community as true. You have to prove this commonly excepted theory is untrue.
There were giant prehistoric snakes as well. I'm not saying that means that Smuglord is fake, but explaining why the snake in that picture evolved into the dinosaur like creature, which would either be a continuation of gamefreak's pattern, or a faker using gamefreaks pattern to give validation to his troll.
It's a only a fucking bad scan. Scanners aren't perfect.
Oh, noes!!!!!! The 8 at the bottom right isn't perfect!!!! This scan is FAKE!!!!!1111111111!!!!
Use logic, guys. It's a wonderful tool.
Oh no, that isn't what I'm trying to say - all I'm trying to prove is that Sceptile and Torterra have aspects of dinosaurs. I'm not suggesting that Smug3f (rhymes with Smugleaf) has to comply with this trend - GF makes and sets trends seemingly without realising.
I see no grass starters that are mainly-based on dinosaurs so yeah...
Except that in the original scan, you can clearly see carry-over from the part with Tsuj2 next to the white legendary. His nose is in the picture, it's just that you, or whoever cropped that, cut it off because it'd reveal the green bleed-over which proves which way the pages are formatted.
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