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there's nothing that determines it. it's a value that the game grabs from somewhere in memory when it boots. it does fluctuate and there's some speculation it might be influenced by keypress, but that doesn;t happen for everyone and might just be hardware-related.

e: it's not glitchy, the game is grabbing from a fast timer.
 
Shinryu said:
IIRC when I asked this before, it's basically that the keypress itself is glitchy or something along those lines, which could lead to hitting adjacent Timer 0 stuff. So just use whatever you hit the most, if you hit the wrong one you pretty much just sigh and redo it again lol.
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yeah, I've been only using what I hit most. But I was thinking of including the other one too to find more seeds. But it doesn't appear to be consistent. So I'll just stick to one for now.
 
Exploits said:
yeah, I've been only using what I hit most. But I was thinking of including the other one too to find more seeds. But it doesn't appear to be consistent. So I'll just stick to one for now.
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I don't know if this will help or not, but with me it depends on when I hit my second. For example, my two timer0s are C7E and C7F. When I hit my second in it's first half, I get C7E. If i hit the latter half, I get C7F. When I read about how holding a button increases it by 1 somewhere in the thread, I noticed that if I hit the first half of the second while holding the button, I get C7F instead of C7E and vice versa. Although sometimes I still don't hit it, but I think there might be some timing to hitting your second even if there are no delays.
 
JRT said:
Hey OmegaDonut, I know you said a guide would be written later, but would it be possible for you to atleast write out the calibration steps for Standard Abuse in the OP maybe this weekend? I do want to start that, but I can't follow video guides very well.
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New page.
 
Seraphidark said:
I don't know if this will help or not, but with me it depends on when I hit my second. For example, my two timer0s are C7E and C7F. When I hit my second in it's first half, I get C7E. If i hit the latter half, I get C7F. When I read about how holding a button increases it by 1 somewhere in the thread, I noticed that if I hit the first half of the second while holding the button, I get C7F instead of C7E and vice versa. Although sometimes I still don't hit it, but I think there might be some timing to hitting your second even if there are no delays.
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I also tried that. I still get C7C a good 80% of the time. Although I hold the button AFTER I boot the game. I'd have to try loading while holding at the same time.

Thanks for the response.
 
Bond697 said:
there's nothing that determines it. it's a value that the game grabs from somewhere in memory when it boots. it does fluctuate and there's some speculation it might be influenced by keypress, but that doesn;t happen for everyone and might just be hardware-related.

e: it's not glitchy, the game is grabbing from a fast timer.
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Yeah...glitchy wasn't the right word in my explanation, though it was about the only answer I could think of that described it lol.
 
JRT said:
New page.

Hey OmegaDonut, I know you said a guide would be written later, but would it be possible for you to atleast write out the calibration steps for Standard Abuse in the OP maybe this weekend? I do want to start that, but I can't follow video guides very well.
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Bearsfan did a video.

It's not like nobody else is doing standard abuse already... there's no impassable barrier for which you need a step by step held hand experience :)

We don't get paid for this, so guides will come when they come.
 
Kaphotics said:
Bearsfan did a video.

It's not like nobody else is doing standard abuse already... there's no impassable barrier for which you need a step by step held hand experience :)

We don't get paid for this, so guides will come when they come.
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Ok calm down because I did mention that I was aware of the videos. I asked the man a simple question and if he won't right now then he won't right now. And what everyone else can do and what I can do may be very different things. So I will wait patiently, as it's not holding my hand, but something I can better grasp. I seem to remember Diabolico saying he needed a visual guide in contrast to text guide, so vice versa for me
 
Lowen said:
I'm trying now to capture a wild Exadrill with C-Gear method and I have a few questions after my first few failures :p (My seed is A64C8D4B, Frame 9 (so target frame = 6), Delay 3951)

First, can I do this like I would for a stationary pokemon? After starting my game with the updated EonTimer, I take my 250 Max Repel, and walk 256 steppes with 3 pokes in the team. During that time, I always hope that a shaking spot shows up. If it shows up during that time, I walk into it, after the Repel finishes, and capture it. If not, than I take a Small Repel (100 steps) and try to prolongue my chance to get a shaking spot, while still being under 384 steppes.

Is this correct until now? I know I can't determine its nature and Ability, so I'm using a Synchro-Pokemon at my lead Spot and hope for the 50^2% chance.

My second question is more general.. When I correctly hit my delay and frame for a 31/31/31/31/31/31 spread, does this mean EVERY wild pokemon that I can catch during this frame has perfect IVs? If yes can I capture it and continue catching more of them right afterwards?

Thanks in advance!
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Bumping this
 
Elranoc said:
Ok so I'm having trouble breeding with a standard seed. My setup is as follows:
Seed: 80CFAEB4A61768BE
Target IV Frame: 40
Target Spread: 31/1/31/31/31/31
Parent 1: Ditto IVs: 31/31/31/31/31/31 Item: Power Bracer
Parent 2: Zoroark (male) Nature: Timid IVs: 31/31/31/31/31/31 Item: Everstone
ID: 24171 SID: 29797

Now, just to get a feel of the sequence of natures I was getting, I hit my seed, advanced to the correct frame, took the egg, hatched it, made sure the IVs were correct, noted the nature. Then I repeated the procedure, advanced the PIDRNG frame once with chatot, hatched the egg again. Again, only advancing twice with chatot. The nature sequence was Gentle, Gentle, Rash. Now, upon generating the list of natures on RNG reporter's main window, nowhere in that list of 10,000 frames does that sequence appear or anything anywhere close to it, which is proving to be very trying because according to RNG reporter, frames 1191 and 1193 yield shinies, with ditto parent checked, and the everstone nature selected. Can anyone tell me what's going wrong?
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Reposting for great justice. Also because I'm still looking for an answer.
 
JRT said:
Ok calm down because I did mention that I was aware of the videos. I asked the man a simple question and if he won't right now then he won't right now. And what everyone else can do and what I can do may be very different things. So I will wait patiently, as it's not holding my hand, but something I can better grasp. I seem to remember Diabolico saying he needed a visual guide in contrast to text guide, so vice versa for me
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I don't know if I'm missing anything, but here goes.
- Have no more than 5 Pokemon along with a Sweet Scenter. Save in an area with high level Pokemon(Ex. Victory Road before Elite Four, Giant Chasm(Cave) Post Elite Four)
-Turn off your game. Turn the DS on and when you're in the menu, note down the Date/Time. Start your game and make sure you know the second you started on.
-Don't press any buttons from the moment you start your game from the DS menu until you see the Gamefreak logo( I think it's okay once you see the copyright info though.)
-Start your game from the continue screen WITHOUT turning on C-Gear.
-As soon as you have control, use Sweet Scent and capture the first Pokemon you encounter.
-Check it's IVs and if possible, get the exact values. Otherwise, make sure that the ranges of each IV is small.(Ex. 1-2 or 24-26)
-Open RNG Reporter and click on DS Parameters(Or Time Finder>Capture Tab>5th Gen DS Parameters>Find Parameters)
-Fill out what you know.(Version, FULL Mac Adress, IVs, Date/Time) and click search.
-Note the actual second you hit because later on you might need to start a second or more before the target.(I think usually it's 1 second before the actual time.) Also, note the Timer0 you got from your search.
-Repeat this process a couple of times to find out what other Timer0 you might have. You'll want to use the Timer0 that you hit most often when you search for spreads.
I was typing when you first asked so don't be surprised I got it fast.
 
I'm trying to use Pandora's Box to ID/SID abuse for a shiny starter. I'm kinda stumped.

Here's all the basic info:
Game: Black (US)
MAC Address: D86BF7BBE917
Timer0: C7B
VCount: 60
GXStat: 6
VFrame: 6
Standard Seed: 5650976B5E1040F2
Date/Time: 3/3/2011 5:04:48
Hold Button: X
Shiny PID: 28309

And here are the steps I took:
  1. I searched for a standard seed for wild pokemon and found one on Frame 1 for 3/3/2011 (5650976B5E1040F2)
  2. I plugged it in to Method 5 PIDRNG and picked out a Naive nature on frame 28309
  3. Went to Pandora's Box, Gen V tab plugged in all of the above and left the default frames as they were and clicked 'Find ID Seeds'
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And now I'm lost.
I want to go for the seed I highlighted (if I did everything right) but I don't know what comes afterwards. I tried to hit that seed by starting my game at that time but my ID came out as 02131. How do I know what frame I'm starting at in-game? Also, what is that Frame 40?

edited: with the latest rng reporter
 
I'm trying to catch a Cobalion with 31/31/31/X/31/31 as the IV spread. I must be missing something because I'm up to my 7th try I think, and not once have I gotten anywhere close to my goal.

The 1st and 4th times, I got a Jolly on with the IVs 9/21/17/21/26/29.

The 2nd, 3rd, and 5th times, I got a Jolly one, with the same but much worse IVs that I can't recall anymore.

The 6th time I got a Mild one with 19/23/18/7/24/21 as the IV spread.

I must be doing something wrong. Please help me out.
 
I think beta 6 has a problem... Probably has something to do with "Time Finder displaying incorrect IVs if the max frame was set to a low number" but I'm really not too sure.

Anyway, it looks like due to that fix (or something else), it's not displaying or including correct seeds. I searched for a spread I used with a Victini - I know I hit this 100% - in beta 6 and got no results. It still shows up when searching in beta 4 and 5, however. Beta 6 has completely different results from 4/5, too. It's not just that one seed.

Pictures:
Beta 4 Results
Beta 6 Results

If it's not a problem with 6, why are the results so different? I'm using the same search settings, parameters, etc.
 
hockeyguy605 said:
I'm trying to catch a Cobalion with 31/31/31/X/31/31 as the IV spread. I must be missing something because I'm up to my 7th try I think, and not once have I gotten anywhere close to my goal.

The 1st and 4th times, I got a Jolly on with the IVs 9/21/17/21/26/29.

The 2nd, 3rd, and 5th times, I got a Jolly one, with the same but much worse IVs that I can't recall anymore.

The 6th time I got a Mild one with 19/23/18/7/24/21 as the IV spread.

I must be doing something wrong. Please help me out.
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Helps to know which method you're using, as well as other pertinent info like mac address, which seed/date/time, etc :P

In general, if you're using standard, make you're sure you've calibrated everything right (timer 0, seconds to enter before, etc etc) and you've entered all the appropriate data right (like selecting stationary, right seed info, date/time right, etc etc). From there, I dunno...if you've never even hit the seed at all something's likely wrong with your setup; if you've at least hit those IVs before, your timer 0 really hates you, just make sure you try to do everything the same.

For c-gear, assuming you've calibrated and everything correctly, never hurts to calibrate further if you're not getting close at all with your delays.

Basically, just double check and make sure you've set up everything correctly beforehand as well as using the right search parameters and such; if you're absolutely sure you've done everything right beforehand, you'll need to post some more info to get any real help.
 
Hello, kind of new to RNG-ing. Just a quick question. Does sweet-scenting and using of item (repel) advances the frame? if so, for how many?

Thank you masters! ^_^
 
Shinryu said:
Helps to know which method you're using, as well as other pertinent info like mac address, which seed/date/time, etc :P

In general, if you're using standard, make you're sure you've calibrated everything right (timer 0, seconds to enter before, etc etc) and you've entered all the appropriate data right (like selecting stationary, right seed info, date/time right, etc etc). From there, I dunno...if you've never even hit the seed at all something's likely wrong with your setup; if you've at least hit those IVs before, your timer 0 really hates you, just make sure you try to do everything the same.

For c-gear, assuming you've calibrated and everything correctly, never hurts to calibrate further if you're not getting close at all with your delays.

Basically, just double check and make sure you've set up everything correctly beforehand as well as using the right search parameters and such; if you're absolutely sure you've done everything right beforehand, you'll need to post some more info to get any real help.
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Using standard (non c-gear) method. I've put in everything the way the game says. This is my first time attempting any sort of RNG abuse.

My DS Mac Address is 0023CCD5B8DB
VCount: 60
GxStat: 6
VFrame: 6
Timer0: C79
 
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