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Ugh, now people are voting for masterful and rickheg?

We should have lynched one of them yesterday, but whatever. As I've said in the past, they've been consistently on my suspicion list so now seems like a good time to vote.

unvote (if I had anyone???)
vote masterful.

Revenge for yesterday, and I find you suspicious. Convince me you're townie and I'll change to rickheg.
 
Well, I guess I may as well put my defense up. See there's something called "interest". There's also something called "obligations". And then there are things you just can't control.

First things first: My moving my stuff from VA to MN. That was something I could not control. Sorry that it had to be that way, but it did.

Second: My current situations in ASB are actually an obligation of you ask me. I am set up in two tag battles, and I don't want to ruin the fun for the other players. If I had the chance, I would quit them, but once again, I don't want to ruin it for the other players.

Third: My interest in this game was quite high during the beginning as you can tell. I've been losing interest to this game due to the fact that everything that has been going on so far has been finger pointing and saying "oh, uh you are active a lot, but you don't say much" or "well, you took part in the vote without explaining yourself". When there isn't high enough of an interest (like in my case), why should I force myself to post at least once a page?

As for my little side comments and vote tallies, well I guess you could say I like to be helpful in small quantities... lately, I don't get to go on Smogon for long amounts of time, unless I'm given the opportunity. The tallies in the beginning were partly due to my high interest in this game. The latest tally was because DetroitLolcat asked for a tally, and I had the time to put it together. I don't have much to contribute when it comes to the conversation in this Mafia game, which is also why I don't talk much. This is generally why I've stayed in agreement with those who had the most convincing arguments in my head.

And, I would like to toss my last ace in the hole: I have other priorities. Primarily life if you ask me. I'm sorry I have to be blunt like that, but quite a bit of stuff has been going on lately for me. This is the kind of stuff you can't control.


tl;dr, Fate has a cool avatar. I'll ask you what anime its from later...

Oh, and before I forget...since it is sort of useless to vote J-man right now (I'm getting villie vibes from the dude, honest)
Unvote
 
Votecount
polelover44 (1): masterful
masterful (3): polelover44, billymills, DetroitLolcat
Ditto (1): Spiffy
J-man (3): Yeti, Isaac 2.0, HSA
rickheg (2): Da Letter El, Uncle Sam
Fangren (1): Quagsires
billymills (1): J-man
Acklow (1): Fatecrashers

With 17 alive, it is 9 to lynch.

EDIT: I missed a page while counting the votes. Standby for recount.
It is worth noting, however, that at the time of the request for a votecount J-man had 8 votes, and hasn't gone above that number.
UPDATE: Votecount now fixed.


In response to the question of suiciding: If I see that players start using the rules in order to lynch multiple people per day, I will start ending the day on each modkill. The purpose of the rules is to have people not take these actions.

As for J-man's edit. I can't see an editing timestamp; I'll contact a moderator of this section to see if it can be confirmed that he edited. Otherwise, he's probably staying alive.
 
unvote
forgive me bm, i was just frustrated and probably impatient... *rolls eyes* I didn't even do it this time.... whatever.

I can't really say anything on who is scum because just like me a lot of peoples' defenses seem to be "life". I wanted to point this out earlier but couldn't, but in the last NOC, it was a mafia *cough* Acklow *cough* who was posting his opinions on who was scum and who wasn't. Obviously i'm not banking on this as evidence, but it just was an interesting historic fact to me that i wanted to share with y'all.
 
DetroitLolcat said:
Ugh, now people are voting for masterful and rickheg?

We should have lynched one of them yesterday, but whatever. As I've said in the past, they've been consistently on my suspicion list so now seems like a good time to vote.

unvote (if I had anyone???)
vote masterful.

Revenge for yesterday, and I find you suspicious. Convince me you're townie and I'll change to rickheg.
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I'm assuming the reason for said suspicion is my trend of bandwagoning My reasons for bandwagoning are as numerous as they are innocent, and I'll gladly explain them to you. First off, in the case of Gallade, as I will explain further in response to billy, there was little reason to oppose the majority, as my dissent would do nothing to prevent the lynch and I was getting pretty bored of the constant hysteria arising out of every word anybody spoke, as there was so little evidence and only a couple posts from which to draw our conclusions. secondly, there was little evidence to the contrary in either the case of polelover or Gallade, and not a great deal higher likelihood that an alternative lynch would provokemore desirable results. Thus, I bandwagoned. Thirdly, as I have made clear earlier, I am the epitome of a mafia noob. Thus, I am not as adept at discerning the meaning behind the posts of all these people as are US and even Fate, both who seem far mopre knowledgeable than I know myself to be in regards to the game we are playing, so I am forced to somewhat rely on them to provide convincing arguments for the lynch of a person, while if I see them making a groundless claim I will surely not support it. My fourth and final reason I will be explaining in this post also is derived from my new-ness to this game as a whole. As this is literally my first game, I have been trying to avoid being lynched early on, for I really want to be able to experience a full game. In that same vein, I usually tend to respond quickly when my name is spoken, as well as avoid invoking on large campaigns against a suspect of my own, especially when I essentially have no real suspects and have to rely on the deep analysis of simple posts to find my evidence. I would hate to have two straight villy lynches in a row, and I hope my absolute lack of mafia skill will not further doom the village in this game by creating yet another useless lynch.

billymills said:
Unvote
Vote: Masterful

Again. Anyone who wants the day to conclude sooner than it has to is mafia in my books. That and you jumped out of nowhere to counter rickheg's minor comment when you saw your name was mentioned.
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It seems my frustration with the length of Day One has been misconstrued as a scum move. Honestly, it's kind of irritating having to constantly grepeaat this, but if I believed there was a chance Gallad was living through that day I would have been far more reluctant to vote him on such little evidence. That fact, combined with the absurdly small amount of real reason for any vote to the contrary, left me at a loss, as I saw no reason to further drag out the day for very little reason, especially when only Gallade and Spiffy had somewhat convincing arguments against them.
 
J-man said:
I wanted to point this out earlier but couldn't, but in the last NOC, it was a mafia *cough* Acklow *cough* who was posting his opinions on who was scum and who wasn't.
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Don't you mean FinnRagetti? I was one of the Twin Inspectors who pointed out that Finn was scum...get your facts straight my good man.
 
Acklow said:
Don't you mean FinnRagetti? I was one of the Twin Inspectors who pointed out that Finn was scum...get your facts straight my good man.
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Yeah, letting us kill the cardflip was a great move.

Unvote. I'm going to read through this, but I am starting to wonder: what twist is in this game? It may be too early to tell, but the only one I possibly see is nerfed roles.
 
Unvote

Yeah I've been bandwagoning. My bandwagon on gall was mostly because I wanted them to stop arguing. As for my BW on J-man, it was mostly because of how I feel about NOC as of now:

(A) State your opinion

(B) Don't and get called out

As I said earlier in one of my posts, I really didn't have the knowledge of the people in this game outside this thread and so I really didn't have an opinion.
 
Can we lynch some of these players that are unwilling to present their opinion, lest they get called out? see: masterful, HSA's last posts.

Or alternatively, people who still have not presented anything whatsoever. I can't imagine they'd be a loss at all.
 
What I said in my last post directly related to my Bw on J-man

The reason I said that is my only real opinion on J-man was that he was being inactive. I had no idea if he was supposed to be or usually was more talkative until BM pointed it out, so I voted for him because, otherwise; the only thing we had done today is forced Issac to claim BG. Anyways I sort of feel in the boat of mafia retard even though I was going to try to not put myself in that category
 
Hey, Yeti, he just talked.

Also, unvote, vote rickheg

Ehh, it seems that masterful might just be a noob like Galladiator. We don't want to make the same mistake, so I'll go with my backup hunch for now.
 
Yeti said:
unvote
Vote: masterful

let's get this guy talking
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For real? I explained the reasoning behind my actions EXPLICITLY and quite thoroughly in a post like 4 posts before yours. Read it, please. Same goes for Billy. My relative lack of posting my opinion comes from the fact that there is really very little discussion going on. The way this game has been going, it's a lot like "Hey, this guy has bandwagoned/not posted a lot, let's vote him". And while that's fine for hunting, it's hardly a strategy where a great deal of discussion goes on. As of now the votes are being based on very flimsy logic and there really isn't much to say about who I think is a suspect. The only people we can somewhat suspect are bandwagoners and those who have claimed power roles, and when I defend my self, only to have people like you coming out of nowhere and voting for me because apparently I'm not fucking talking is completely stupid and there isn't much I can do about that now, is there? Come up with a valid argument rather than just jumping on the "vote me" train with a 5-word reasoning.
 
masterful said:
My relative lack of posting my opinion comes from the fact that there is really very little discussion going on.
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then make some discussion
bring something up on your own

or do you not want your opinion out?? secretive?? mr mafiaful I feel, trying to avoid the limelight by dissing the bandwagoning but keeping his thoughts secret

I simply want you to post more. do you not feel comfortable posting with more frequency? will you slip up and drop some scummy hints if you talk too much? perhaps your mafia friends told you to keep it on the down low so nobody could read too much into your words?

also your first paragraph was tl;dr if you could space it out better I might be more inclined to read it in detail, fix pl0x??
 
Yeti said:
then make some discussion
bring something up on your own

or do you not want your opinion out?? secretive?? mr mafiaful I feel, trying to avoid the limelight by dissing the bandwagoning but keeping his thoughts secret

I simply want you to post more. do you not feel comfortable posting with more frequency? will you slip up and drop some scummy hints if you talk too much? perhaps your mafia friends told you to keep it on the down low so nobody could read too much into your words?

also your first paragraph was tl;dr if you could space it out better I might be more inclined to read it in detail, fix pl0x??
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JUST READ IT. I'm sorry if your eyes disagree with my lack of spacing but to be honest, it takes so little time to read I would prefer not to have to go change it. It's your responsibility to read what people say especially if you're trying to lynch them. the fact is I don't have an opinion. If you read my post you would know that. There is too little evidence at this point, and as I'm a mafia moron I don't understand how to glen vital information from short posts such as these.

Also, you're not really bringing up discussion yourself. You're really only calling me out for not speaking (after I spoke HEAVILY like two post before you), clearly not paying attention to what I'm saying, and not contributing at all to the goal of a good lynch. Not to be petty, but I feel like I have to
Unvtoe
Vote: Yeti
and if you ask me why I would suggest you read my post and not just blindly make unfounded and useless arguments.
 
Alpha Werewolf said:
Votecount
polelover44 (2): masterful, Spiffy
Isaac 2.0 (1): J-man
masterful (3): polelover44, billymills, DetroitLolcat
Ditto (2): Spiffy, HSA
J-man (3): Yeti, Isaac 2.0, HSA
rickheg (2): Da Letter El, Uncle Sam
Fangren (1): Quagsires
billymills (1): J-man
Acklow (1): Fatecrashers
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I am confused. Some people are showing up twice on this. J-man (for Isaac and billy), Spiffy (for polelover and me), and HSA (for J-man and me).
 
hey genius
making one tl;dr doesn't qualify as regular contributions

you stand out to me as not really doing much or anything significant except voting and wanting things to end

don't have an opinion eh?? now why is that? because your mafia buds determine your opinion? perhaps they aren't on right now to tell you what your opinion should be. EVERY villager in this game should be formulating their own opinions and reading peoples' posts. the fact you're so disinclined to state or hold one (note how that was a bone of contention with isaac who claimed he had no choice but to bandwagon) lends you no credibility as a (useful) villager.

voting me as well eh? a rather defensive move on your end. rather than unvote or leave your vote, a scummy move was certainly to vote the person attempting to get you to speak up or vote someone else under heavy suspicion.

note how at no point did I say you were actually mafia or that I felt very strongly you were scum, rather, I pointed out how your actions could easily be construed as scummy. and here you go voting me because you, like isaac, apparently have no choice in the matter? you feel like you have to?? maybe one of your mafia mates is on and told you it was the best idea???

if you had bothered to read the thread you'd know that voting and insinuating you have little to no control over your own vote is likely not a wise decision. which leads me to believe you are indeed a scum following other villagers' examples, unfortunately, isaac acted quite poorly to avoid suspicion.

child please. if you have no opinion on who is scum you should not be voting if you're not going to try to scumhunt someone out (like I am doing with you). rather you just look suspect now.
 
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