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Most Generation PRNG Help / Information

Winters Zombie said:
I have no idea about the first part. Probably keep track in your head, or you can memorize what frame the spread is on, and switch the method to K and keep track using that.

After saying yes you want the Pokemon, after walking to the desired square.

No, it shouldn't. It's not like 5th gen xD! It just prevents you from Sweet Scenting.
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Yep, I got it. Just like you said, I just switched to Method K and kept track using that.

Ok, thanks!

Lol, I know, I just wanted to be sure xD
 
I'm trying to RNG my ID/SID combo on platinum.
My target time is 5:29:00 so I reset the game at 5:27:00 and press A on the Gyrados report when it becomes 5:29:00.
Is this correct?
 
So, for the Arceus event, do I save one step before I step on the desired pokemon's pattern, hit my seed, and pick the pokemon I want?
 
Princess of Johto said:
So, for the Arceus event, do I save one step before I step on the desired pokemon's pattern, hit my seed, and pick the pokemon I want?
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No. You save one step before entering the hut in Ruins of Alph. If you set the step towards the door, a man will come out and the event will start.

@dragonboy: Si señor.
 
Hey, guys. 4th Gen RNG noob here. :P I'm having tons of issues, mostly with delays... I've dealt with c-gear delays before, and even was able to hit within +-1 of my wanted delay with no problems (never got around to finishing learning it), but this 4th Gen stuff isn't working out so well. Can someone look over this and identify the problem? I just know I'm doing something wrong here.

Everything I've done so far has been divided up into sections so it doesn't stretch the page. Also, the Pokemon I'm aiming for is a Ho-oh from Bell Tower.

Using my Heart Gold and DSi, I calibrated for my average delay and seconds, which came out as 491 and 13. I'm confident I did it right, but here's what I did:

1. Synced the DSi's clock to my computer's clock.
2. Once my comp's clock hit a new minute, I soft reset. I pressed A at a comfortable pace, entered the game, and immediately captured a Pokemon, making note of the time I started the game.
3. Using an Action Replay DSi, I checked its exact IVs. Then I opened up RNG Reporter and used "IVs to Seed" to figure out my delay, seconds, etc.

I did this about 14 times, so I think I got a good reading.
I downloaded PokeRNG and filled out everything. Here's what it looks like, with the results loaded up:
ehj440.png

I right clicked that spread, then hit Spread Information. Riski's guide says to pick a spread with the same seconds as your calibrated, so I chose the time:
7/30/11, 14:45:13.
The timer I'm using is PikaTimer. I enter in all my information, create timer. Here's the window:
2588b2h.png
Now that I've gotten what spread I want to use, I open up RNG Reporter. Seed to Time, paste the seed into there. Set it to HGSS. Check off seconds and enter 13. Since I have no roamers, I don't mess with that. Generate. I click on my time. Set the delay's min and max both to 999 (I've been getting some crazy delays), seconds to +-9, then hit Generate. All ready here. Window looks like:
314fhvq.png
I've shown Prof. Elm the Togepi, been to Kanto, and have done the Pokerus thing. Raikou and Entei have both been killed off, and Latias hasn't been released yet.
I've made my way to the last ladder before the top of Bell Tower where Ho-oh is (that's the last spot where I can do calls, right?), with an Adamant sync in the front. Ready to start RNGing!
Now that I've got everything seemingly fixed up, I set my DSi's date to 7/30/11, along with the time to 14:44. As I hit OK, I begin the timer.
I start up the game with plenty of time left on the first timer, then wait until it ends to soft reset. As the first one ends, I soft reset, and the second timer starts.
I press A to get to the Continue screen with a couple seconds left, then tap A as the second timer ends to enter the game.

Once in the game, I immediately open up my PokeGear and begin calling Elm, making note of which responses he gives me. Once I get about 10 or so written down, I enter the information into RNG Reporter... well, here are some of the results that popped out. While doing this, I never changed the timer or anything like that.

1. Elm: k, p, p, p, e, k, p, e, e, e.
Hit 050E02C2, 2011 07 30, 14:45:06, Delay 695 (:D). Hit my delay, awesome! But how on earth am I a good 7 seconds off from my goal?

2. Elm: e, p, p, k, p, p, k, k, p, e.
Hit 040DFF48, 2011 07 30, 14:45:05, Delay -195. A negative delay? What exactly does that mean...? All I know is that that's way off from what I'm going for.

3. Elm: k, k, e, k, p, k, k, k, p, k.
Hit 050E061A, 2011 07 30, 14:45:06, Delay 1551. :pirate: Way off, again.

4. Elm: k, k, p, e, e, p, k, k, p, k.
Hit 090DFF9F, 2011 07 30, 14:45:10, Delay -108. :(

Aaaand at this point I stopped. My delays seemed to be wildly fluctuating, and my seconds weren't looking so great either...

One thing I've noticed is that when pressing OK to set my time for the first timer, there's a delay before the DSi actually sets the time, making it slightly behind the timer. Is that going to be problematic?

I've been going at this for about 3 days, hoping that I'll eventually get closer, but it would appear that that's not happening. I've read over multiple guides several times, and searched through the forums for people with similar cases. Doesn't seem like too many people have this kind of trouble, though...

What am I doing wrong? Is there something I've missed, or am I just that awful at hitting delays? If you need any more information, please feel free to ask. Any help would be appreciated. @_@
 
Turtwig said:
Hey, guys. 4th Gen RNG noob here. :P I'm having tons of issues, mostly with delays... I've dealt with c-gear delays before, and even was able to hit within +-1 of my wanted delay with no problems (never got around to finishing learning it), but this 4th Gen stuff isn't working out so well. Can someone look over this and identify the problem? I just know I'm doing something wrong here.

Everything I've done so far has been divided up into sections so it doesn't stretch the page. Also, the Pokemon I'm aiming for is a Ho-oh from Bell Tower.

Using my Heart Gold and DSi, I calibrated for my average delay and seconds, which came out as 491 and 13. I'm confident I did it right, but here's what I did:

1. Synced the DSi's clock to my computer's clock.
2. Once my comp's clock hit a new minute, I soft reset. I pressed A at a comfortable pace, entered the game, and immediately captured a Pokemon, making note of the time I started the game.
3. Using an Action Replay DSi, I checked its exact IVs. Then I opened up RNG Reporter and used "IVs to Seed" to figure out my delay, seconds, etc.

I did this about 14 times, so I think I got a good reading.
I downloaded PokeRNG and filled out everything. Here's what it looks like, with the results loaded up:
ehj440.png

I right clicked that spread, then hit Spread Information. Riski's guide says to pick a spread with the same seconds as your calibrated, so I chose the time:
7/30/11, 14:45:13.
The timer I'm using is PikaTimer. I enter in all my information, create timer. Here's the window:
2588b2h.png
Now that I've gotten what spread I want to use, I open up RNG Reporter. Seed to Time, paste the seed into there. Set it to HGSS. Check off seconds and enter 13. Since I have no roamers, I don't mess with that. Generate. I click on my time. Set the delay's min and max both to 999 (I've been getting some crazy delays), seconds to +-9, then hit Generate. All ready here. Window looks like:
314fhvq.png
I've shown Prof. Elm the Togepi, been to Kanto, and have done the Pokerus thing. Raikou and Entei have both been killed off, and Latias hasn't been released yet.
I've made my way to the last ladder before the top of Bell Tower where Ho-oh is (that's the last spot where I can do calls, right?), with an Adamant sync in the front. Ready to start RNGing!
Now that I've got everything seemingly fixed up, I set my DSi's date to 7/30/11, along with the time to 14:44. As I hit OK, I begin the timer.
I start up the game with plenty of time left on the first timer, then wait until it ends to soft reset. As the first one ends, I soft reset, and the second timer starts.
I press A to get to the Continue screen with a couple seconds left, then tap A as the second timer ends to enter the game.

Once in the game, I immediately open up my PokeGear and begin calling Elm, making note of which responses he gives me. Once I get about 10 or so written down, I enter the information into RNG Reporter... well, here are some of the results that popped out. While doing this, I never changed the timer or anything like that.

1. Elm: k, p, p, p, e, k, p, e, e, e.
Hit 050E02C2, 2011 07 30, 14:45:06, Delay 695 (:D). Hit my delay, awesome! But how on earth am I a good 7 seconds off from my goal?

2. Elm: e, p, p, k, p, p, k, k, p, e.
Hit 040DFF48, 2011 07 30, 14:45:05, Delay -195. A negative delay? What exactly does that mean...? All I know is that that's way off from what I'm going for.

3. Elm: k, k, e, k, p, k, k, k, p, k.
Hit 050E061A, 2011 07 30, 14:45:06, Delay 1551. :pirate: Way off, again.

4. Elm: k, k, p, e, e, p, k, k, p, k.
Hit 090DFF9F, 2011 07 30, 14:45:10, Delay -108. :(

Aaaand at this point I stopped. My delays seemed to be wildly fluctuating, and my seconds weren't looking so great either...

One thing I've noticed is that when pressing OK to set my time for the first timer, there's a delay before the DSi actually sets the time, making it slightly behind the timer. Is that going to be problematic?

I've been going at this for about 3 days, hoping that I'll eventually get closer, but it would appear that that's not happening. I've read over multiple guides several times, and searched through the forums for people with similar cases. Doesn't seem like too many people have this kind of trouble, though...

What am I doing wrong? Is there something I've missed, or am I just that awful at hitting delays? If you need any more information, please feel free to ask. Any help would be appreciated. @_@
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There is sth wrong that you are doing. Do not put 9 -+ seconds, put 1 on both Min, Max because then there are a lot seed with the same calls. Also I don't think that in HG and SS you are able to hit high delays such this. I usually hit 491 or 493. Also this: Elm: k, p, p, p, e, k, p, e, e, e.
Hit 050E02C2, 2011 07 30, 14:45:06, Delay 695 (:D). Hit my delay, awesome! But how on earth am I a good 7 seconds off from my goal? is not your delay. Your delay is at 13 second. So put on seconds 1-+ and try with lower delays (in my opinion). Hope I helped. :)

EDIT: Also it is more easy to see what you've got if you put on min max delay in your seed to time 90. =)
 
Oh... yeah, some of the calls weren't matching with what it was giving me, I was wondering what was going on there. :/

So try lower delays, and fix up my min max delays? All right, I'll do that and report back. Thanks so much for the help! :D
 
Turtwig said:
Oh... yeah, some of the calls weren't matching with what it was giving me, I was wondering what was going on there. :/

So try lower delays, and fix up my min max delays? All right, I'll do that and report back. Thanks so much for the help! :D
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You forgot to say that you have to fix minutes too. :)
 
So it should look something like this?:
2lkaa1g.png

Also, sometimes I get a "No match" after entering my Elm's calls. I suspect this has something to do with me not hitting the right second, how do you suggest I fix this? (Not quite sure how to adjust the timer to this...)
 
Turtwig said:
So it should look something like this?:
2lkaa1g.png

Also, sometimes I get a "No match" after entering my Elm's calls. I suspect this has something to do with me not hitting the right second, how do you suggest I fix this? (Not quite sure how to adjust the timer to this...)
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It's because the frame is too high to be hit in HG and SS games. I said before that i usually hit 491 or 493. So 695 it's to high for HG and SS.
 
Are you sure? A couple pages back was a person aiming for 2381 on their Heart Gold, they eventually hit it and got a flawless Larvitar.

Thanks again for the help, btw. I'm actually getting normal results now, feeling much more confident about this now.
Did you see anything else in there that I'm doing wrong?

E: Hit my spread, got my Ho-oh. :) Thanks babismanias!
 
Turtwig said:
Are you sure? A couple pages back was a person aiming for 2381 on their Heart Gold, they eventually hit it and got a flawless Larvitar.

Thanks again for the help, btw. I'm actually getting normal results now, feeling much more confident about this now.
Did you see anything else in there that I'm doing wrong?
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Ok, then. Good Luck. =)
 
Hi. I'm starting to RNG bred pokemon in Pokemon Diamond and was wondering if any one of you could direct me to where I may find Syberia's flawless japanese ditto so I may have to do less of those Double Taps; which are very annoying if 4000+! :/
Please help me out if any one knows. Thanks
 
babismanias said:
It's because the frame is too high to be hit in HG and SS games. I said before that i usually hit 491 or 493. So 695 it's to high for HG and SS.
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695 is not at all too high for HGSS. I hit high delays normally. Like, my HP Fire shiny spread is on delay 1910, and I can still hit it.
 
Hello friends, I started to RNG with Soul Silver the other day and I have to say I like it better then RNGing in Diamond because you can do larger frames with relative easy. However I want to RNG a male rash/mild Horsea but when using time finder it did not show me any spreads. I was wondering if anyone had a spread they knew of that I could use and if possible tell me how I could go about finding such a thread for this and future instances when I cant find one.

my delay range is 490-510
 
Ok, so I'm trying to RNG in my platinum, (I mean, why would I post here if I WASN'T RNGing, lol)

Well, anyway, I am posting here to make sure I'm doing it right so I don't have to spend FOREVER trying to do the WRONG thing. Here's the spread I'm trying to hit:

Seed: 20020272 Date: 2011 / 06 / 01
Delay: 615 Frame: 17
Time: 02:00:26
IVs: B/19/31/A/A/31
Flip Sequence: H H H T T T T H T H

So, according to the guides I've read (mingot's RNG guide and Riski's Guide), I need to;

1. Calculate my Synch time (becomes: 01:59:00) and reset time (02:00:00)
2. When the clock reaches a new minute I press "A" to set my Synch time as my DS time
3. Then I turn on my DS again, and get all the way to the Intro screen
4. I reset when the clock reaches ANOTHER full minute
5. I press "A" on the continue screen 26 seconds later, and enter the game
6. I flip journal pages to advance my frame, then exit that screen and mash "A" to take the egg from the daycare guy.

So the main thing I want to know about (other than if I'm doing this right), is exactly how many time do I flip pages? (and yes, I know that only caught/defeated pokemon on the pages advance the frame) According to riski's guide, I would flip 6 pages, but it seems different for Mingot's guide.

Also, does anyone know what happens if there is a pokemon on the page that pops up as soon as you enter the game? (like, how many frames it advances by?)

Thanks in advance!

EDIT: I've also noticed that sometimes when I input the "Flip Sequence" into RNG Reporter, it says that I actually hit a seed pracically 30 days away. ???
 
OniBowser said:
Hello friends, I started to RNG with Soul Silver the other day and I have to say I like it better then RNGing in Diamond because you can do larger frames with relative easy. However I want to RNG a male rash/mild Horsea but when using time finder it did not show me any spreads. I was wondering if anyone had a spread they knew of that I could use and if possible tell me how I could go about finding such a thread for this and future instances when I cant find one.

my delay range is 490-510
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I think the reason why you found no spreads was because your delay range is to small. Make it at least 490-700, Imo. You should find some spreads that way.
 
Tirade said:
As for radar abuse, I don't plan on doing that any time soon. Sounds like you would need a very high target frame to go along with the standard chaining.
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For non shiny you don't need an extremely high frame, I abused a Vibrava with a frame of 186, the important thing is getting a chain of your radar pokemon going.
For shiny radar pokemon I'm going to test if a shiny patch is even needed(as I have a feeling it isn't) and I'll get back to you.

Also, the guide in post 6(or whatever it is) says that encounter slots correspond to radar pokemon, it isn't true and you should test your frames individually on that seed till you get your radar pokemon.

Princess of Johto said:
Yep, I got it. Just like you said, I just switched to Method K and kept track using that.

Ok, thanks!

Lol, I know, I just wanted to be sure xD
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That's weird that your Gyrados started on frame 1, as when I did mine it started on frame 11 O_O.

OniBowser said:
Hello friends, I started to RNG with Soul Silver the other day and I have to say I like it better then RNGing in Diamond because you can do larger frames with relative easy. However I want to RNG a male rash/mild Horsea but when using time finder it did not show me any spreads. I was wondering if anyone had a spread they knew of that I could use and if possible tell me how I could go about finding such a thread for this and future instances when I cant find one.

my delay range is 490-510
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As long as you are using a timer you can open that range up to well over a 1000 and get a lot of spreads.

StealthX said:
Ok, so I'm trying to RNG in my platinum, (I mean, why would I post here if I WASN'T RNGing, lol)

Well, anyway, I am posting here to make sure I'm doing it right so I don't have to spend FOREVER trying to do the WRONG thing. Here's the spread I'm trying to hit:

Seed: 20020272 Date: 2011 / 06 / 01
Delay: 615 Frame: 17
Time: 02:00:26
IVs: B/19/31/A/A/31
Flip Sequence: H H H T T T T H T H

So, according to the guides I've read (mingot's RNG guide and Riski's Guide), I need to;

1. Calculate my Synch time (becomes: 01:59:00) and reset time (02:00:00)
2. When the clock reaches a new minute I press "A" to set my Synch time as my DS time
3. Then I turn on my DS again, and get all the way to the Intro screen
4. I reset when the clock reaches ANOTHER full minute
5. I press "A" on the continue screen 26 seconds later, and enter the game
6. I flip journal pages to advance my frame, then exit that screen and mash "A" to take the egg from the daycare guy.

So the main thing I want to know about (other than if I'm doing this right), is exactly how many time do I flip pages? (and yes, I know that only caught/defeated pokemon on the pages advance the frame) According to riski's guide, I would flip 6 pages, but it seems different for Mingot's guide.

Also, does anyone know what happens if there is a pokemon on the page that pops up as soon as you enter the game? (like, how many frames it advances by?)

Thanks in advance!

EDIT: I've also noticed that sometimes when I input the "Flip Sequence" into RNG Reporter, it says that I actually hit a seed pracically 30 days away. ???
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So many things to ask:

I'll start by asking if you're using a timer. If your not, then I can already tell you that having 26 seconds of time between soft resetting and clicking to start the game is going to get you a delay way higher than 615. In fact, your time between soft reset and clicking to get in game should be roughly 14 seconds.

So my first suggestion is to use a timer and aim for a higher delay. When I did egg abuse in DPPt my delay was usually over 800. Timers allow you to hit said delays easily and consistently as most people have similar calibrated delay and seconds. Start with 600 and 14 seconds and let EonTimer update as you go.

Next I recommend watching these videos as they do the best job explaining DPPt egg abuse:


Bearsfan092 Egg Abuse Part 1
Bearsfan092 Egg Abuse Part 2
 
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