MetaNite!!

[Rofellos]

MetaNite!


Hello everyone!
Since my return to competitive battling I've noticed so many of the same pokes being used over and over again. So now I've decided to make a new team with pokemon I've never even used before!


Team building process:

The star and my main sweeper who I have shockingly never used before!

Next I needed someone to tackle dragonites ice/electric/ and rock attacks and that someone is metagross!

And here is the third member of this core. Eelektross has no weaknesses and can handle magnezone packing hidden power fire that could trap metagross. The eel can also damage dangerous water types with ice beam that could hurt dragonite.

Next I wanted some security against entry hazards and opposing gliscor so naturally gliscor found a spot in here especially for taunt and ice fang.

Up next is my revenge killer Terrakion the bunny. Excellent coverage especially with xscissor for psychic types like reuniclus.

The last member of the team tentacruel! I wanted a rapid spinner to deal with stealth rock that could hurt dragonite as well as having toxic spikes for an entry hazard of my own!

After some debate I've chosen rotom w to replace eelektross for better stats and coverage.

So now you've seen the process let's move on to the team!
​

Dragonite
Nature: rash
Trait: multiscale
Ev:252sp atk/ 40atk 218 spe
Item: leftovers
Moveset:
Thunderbolt
Roost
Fire blast
Outrage

Remade for mixnite! I like thunderbolt and fire blast for better coverage and mixnite seems to be much more deadly

Metagross:
Ev:252 atk/ 60hp/ 192spe/ 4 spD?
Nature: adamant
Item: life orb
Trait: clear body
Moveset:
Meteor mash
Earthquake
Agility
ice punch

Classic agiligross to pick up some speed. MM is awesome stab against rock types and eq covers electric and does decent damage to a ton of the metagame. Ice punch is the new last slot for two reasons one for dragons and two bc with hail up I can hit for higher damage!

Rotom w
Nature: modest
Trait: levitate
Item: choice specs
Ev: 252spA/ 252speed/ 4 spD
Moveset:

Volt switch
hydro pump
Pain split
Hidden power fire

Chosen after the helpful suggestions! I like rotom w since it also has levitate and good stab. Has hydro for better control against opposing terrakion and voltswitch like a uturn for jellicent. I love pain split to recover and steal health away, currently using Hidden power fire for a second fire move for the team.

Gliscor:
Nature: Impish
Trait: toxic heal
Item: toxic orb
Ev: 244 hp/ 80 spe/ 185 D
Moveset:
Taunt
Earthquake
Ice fang
Swords dance

The usual Gliscor and my taunt man. Ice fang is added security for other gliscor and swords dance gives the extra edge. Eq is good stab and can deal with surprise electrics.

Tentacruel:
Nature: Bold
Trait:liquid ooze
Item: leftovers
Ev:252 HP/200 def/ 58 Sp D
Moveset:
Rapid spin
Toxic spikes
Scald
Hail

So here we have my rapid spinner to fight off hazards like stealth rock. Scald is there to burn whatever doesn't get hurt by toxic spikes. Hail added to make this mon more useful for utility and to break weather teams! ( kudos to Darkerones)

Terrakion:
Nature: adamant
Trait: justice heart
Ev:252 spe/248 atk/ 8 def
Item: choice scarf
Moveset:
Close combat
Stone edge
Xscissor
earthquake

And here we have the stone bunny. Rock polish let's me speed up fast. Se and cc are fantastic stab and can finish Ttar and gyarados.

So there is the team I hope you will all check it out and help me patch any holes and make this team even better.

Threat List:
Ive done some research on my own and here are some mons that make me worry:

Thundurus: Annoying flying cat, considering is electric/flying I can Stone Edge it with terrakion or have Gliscor Ice Fang it.

politoed: Cant walk a mile in any direction without seeing this toad. Rotom can zap it easily though and benefit from its drizzle ability.

Hippowdon: The other sandstorm maker, thankfully i have gliscor, metagross, and terrakion who can all use the sand storm to their advantage but it will most likely carry ice fang so I'll want to use metagross and eq it.

Those are the three ive thought of just now Im willing to add more if anyone can see other holes!

 

[Ninjadolphin]

I would recommend changing tentacruels sludge bomb to either knock off or that move that doubles when the enemy is poisoned, I think it's called veno shock. Also you might want to replace eelektross with either zapdos or manectric, both of them are better at the electric/ fire thing.

 

[Rofellos]

But I kinda lik eelektross for it's levitate ability:(

 

[Ninjadolphin]

You don't really need another ground immunity that badly, you have dnite and gliscor. Manectric has lightning rod which can absorb electric attacks directed at tentacruel, and it's faster.

 

[Rofellos]

Ohhh well now that you mentioned lightning rod that's different. Is manetric also better carrying hidden power fire or ice?

Major edit just checked out manectrics fire abilities but his stats are worrying me. Can gain really good coverage but eelektross at least levitates and doesn't have to worry about carrying hp grass. I'm really unsure about making this change.

 

[Eternal]

For Dragonite, give it Leftovers over Life Orb so Dragonite can use it's ability Multiscale to its fullest. Halving damage when at full health is a big benefit and when weather damages can interfere with that. That's why Leftovers is better to keep it's health.

You should replace Elektross with Rotom-W because unlike Elektross, Rotom-W also gets a power STAB water move (Hydro Pump) and is much bulkier. You can also use Pain Split to recover damage and Will-o-wisp to cripple physical attacks. Overall, Rotom-W just overshadows Elektross. Here's the set:

Rotom @ Leftovers -- Levitate
Nature: Modest - EVs: 128 HP / 252 SAtk / 128 Spd
- Hydro Pump
- Thunderbolt
- Pain Split
- Will-O-Wisp

For Gliscor, your EVs seem to be off. You want to give Gliscor 80 Speed EVs and 176 Def EVs, not the other way around. 80 Speed EVs is all Gliscor needs.

For Terrakion, you should replace X-Scissor for Swords Dance. Stone Edge with STAB does just enough damage as X-Scissor does to Pokemon like Reuniclus, Starmie, Hydreigon, Latios, etc. So there's very little reason to use it over Swords Dance (which can help you sweep stall teams).

 

[Rofellos]

Ohh maybe i was typing gliscors stats wrong. Ill make some changes but you really think i should have rotom w instead?.

 

[Team Amon Amarth]

Is manetric also better carrying hidden power fire or ice?

Just a note, Manectric learns Flamethrower, so it doesn't need HP Fire.

 

[Rofellos]

Yes I mentioned that in my edit lol had no idea manectric was so diverse

 

[Team Amon Amarth]

Oh sorry. Well to address your concerns, no Manectric's stats aren't all that great for OU... that's why you never see it. That still leaves Zapdos, who is immune to Ground attacks like Eelektross, gets Lightningrod like Manectric, has access to Heat Wave (not sure if Heat Wave and Lightningrod are compatible though), and is generally statistically superior to both of the other options.

 

[Nosferalto]

so glad good old metanite is still alive...

for the rate, use fire blast over fire punch because it hits physically defensive steel types much harder

good team dude

 

[malomyotismon]

so glad good old metanite is still alive...

for the rate, use fire blast over fire punch because it hits physically defensive steel types much harder

good team dude

no, it's primarily for ferrothorn, not only that fire blast on a jolly/adamant nite is pitiful and you can't afford to forfeit his defenses. Aftaer a DD fire punch will be hitting indefinitely harder anyways.

 

[Rofellos]

Thanks I'm glad people like it! Nosderalto isn't entirely wrong that fire punch was originally meant to tackle ferrothorn but I do agree fire punch hits a little harder. I'm about to edit some changes for the team and after some calculations as well as team synergy I'm willing to switch out eelektross for one of two pokemon, zapdos although I'm wary to have three flying types in here and rotom w. So before I put up the first round of changes what's the popular vote looking for to help my team our? Z or R?

 

[Rofellos]

Bump! Made some major edits and I have decided to use rotom w! Thanks for the feedback thus far now let's see if my changes have fixed most of the problems.

 

[malomyotismon]

Bump! Made some major edits and I have decided to use rotom w! Thanks for the feedback thus far now let's see if my changes have fixed most of the problems.

One last thing, when making an RMT, adding a few pictures help. It grasps peoples attentions and makes it easier to grasp rather than just words.

 

[Atimix]

Dragonite:
Nature: adamant
Trait: multiscale
Ev:252hp/ 44atk/ 196 spe
Item: life orb
Moveset: *
Fire punch
Roost
Dragon dance
Outrage



you still have at least 16 EVs to distribute on this build

 

[Rofellos]

One last thing, when making an RMT, adding a few pictures help. It grasps peoples attentions and makes it easier to grasp rather than just words.

As I mentioned in my first post my images are not currently working lol my internet is agaisnt me ATM lol but I'm fixing it now!

and I miscounted on Dnite? I will fix that now thank you!

 

[malomyotismon]

As I mentioned in my first post my images are not currently working lol my internet is agaisnt me ATM lol but I'm fixing it now!

and I miscounted on Dnite? I will fix that now thank you!

oh sorry didn't see that, i am a bit on the blind side.

 

[Rofellos]

Thats ok because now I have finally been able to add images to the thread! Now it looks nice! Lol and Ive made even more changes like adding swords dance to Terrakion and giving tentacruel venoshock! Thanks for that last suggestion, its a better idea to have the newer and more updated moves for the new metagame considering venoshocks ability after poisoning.

 

[Lord Wallace]

This is a very nice core i think,lol thats actually the exact same Agiligross i run on my team (except diffrent EVs). okay,if you go Rock Polish on terrakion i wouldve gone for Adamant but Jolly works okay too.

on Tentacrual you are treating your defenses as if they were equal,your set will get punished by pretty much any non resisted physical STAB,go for Bold and this EV spread 252 HP 200 defense 58 Sp defense,that way your defenses dont outclass each other and you dont end up getting beat down too badly when your Tentacruel is targeted for physical attacks.

Same thing with Gliscor,bolster his Sp defense so its closer to his defense by running Careful. He looks fine other than that.

your core is awesome,i wish you luck in your battles.

 

[Rofellos]

This is a very nice core i think,lol thats actually the exact same Agiligross i run on my team (except diffrent EVs). okay,if you go Rock Polish on terrakion i wouldve gone for Adamant but Jolly works okay too.

on Tentacrual you are treating your defenses as if they were equal,your set will get punished by pretty much any non resisted physical STAB,go for Bold and this EV spread 252 HP 200 defense 58 Sp defense,that way your defenses dont outclass each other and you dont end up getting beat down too badly when your Tentacruel is targeted for physical attacks.

Same thing with Gliscor,bolster his Sp defense so its closer to his defense by running Careful. He looks fine other than that.

your core is awesome,i wish you luck in your battles.

Yea yea I found that Zen headbutt is better for stab lol. I made changes according to the natures of Gliscor and Tentacruel but could you recommend a new ev set for gliscor? I can definitely agree with boositng his special defense but now Im confused as to how his evs should be. As for metagross I chose extra speed because I want that agility to do the most it can but do you think I should run more evs in health and less in speed since I already have agility? Also for Terrakion I chose Jolly because I know that in some battles with sandstorm that bunny is gonna be competing to use stone edge on some devilish gliscors and maybe even have to CC a deadly weavile before it can use an ice move but then again priority ice shard might make me rethink that strategy but I am open to discussion about terrakion's chosen nature.

 

[Unchained1]

Hmmm just a thought if you are up against a rain team and you have Dnite out fire punch wont do anything and if you Outrage any steel can come in and set up on it easily such as Jirachi(Trick/SR, Calm mind psychic and thunder 60% para rate) Ferrothorn(Twave, Leechseed, spikes, power whip) or my ferro set(UltimateTrol Twave, Leechseed, Swords Dance, Seed bomb) with fire doing very little damage to either in rain thats why steel is common and can cripple a few opponents. Jest letting you know because I have a rain team with both of these and i always set up on outrage :)

 

[Griff]

MetaNite!


Threat List:
Ive done some research on my own and here are some mons that make me worry:

Thundurus: Annoying flying cat, considering is electric/flying I can Stone Edge it with terrakion or have Gliscor Ice Fang it.
He's not a cat, he's a genie, and you can only stone edge it if you have a rock polish up, otherwise it'll kill you, and gliscor's ice fang won't kill it, and since it outspeeds anyway a deathly HP ice is coming your way. Think about it. ;)

politoed: Cant walk a mile in any direction without seeing this toad. Rotom can zap it easily though and benefit from its drizzle ability.
Rotom's thunderbolt will not OHKO, and if you rotom has taken previous damage, a specs scald will HURT.

Hippowdon: The other sandstorm maker, thankfully i have gliscor, metagross, and terrakion who can all use the sand storm to their advantage but it will most likely carry ice fang so I'll want to use metagross and eq it.
How does metagross use sand to his advantage? Only rock types get the sp. def boost. Your also running poison heal on gliscor, so no sand veil for you.

Those are the three ive thought of just now Im willing to add more if anyone can see other holes!

Answers in bold.

 

[Rofellos]

Well unchained I do want to have the best defense possible agaisnt rain teams so what do you suggest?

As for griff do you then suggest thunderpunch on meta for politoed? And thundurus looks like a cat lol. So then what do you suggest terrakion could do to be better?

As for sandstorm meta is steel so I meant he won't take damage from sandstorm or even much damage from stealth rock. And gliscor is also ground obviously and even without sand veil taking no damage from sandstorm is valuable.

I love the comments everyone but now we need to patch the holes so what should the third round of changes be?

 

[Griff]

Well unchained I do want to have the best defense possible agaisnt rain teams so what do you suggest?

As for griff do you then suggest thunderpunch on meta for politoed? And thundurus looks like a cat lol. So then what do you suggest terrakion could do to be better?
Thunderpunch won't do shit against poli tbh
As for sandstorm meta is steel so I meant he won't take damage from sandstorm or even much damage from stealth rock. And gliscor is also ground obviously and even without sand veil taking no damage from sandstorm is valuable.
lol, the little damage thing is not the point, get some real sand abusers.
I love the comments everyone but now we need to patch the holes so what should the third round of changes be?