CAP 13 CAP 2 - Art Submissions

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Very early sketch for my idea here. It will be a koala with features resembling Leonardo Da Vinci. The area with the hair will most likely resemble some kind of leaves. I haven't decided on that yet. If anyone has any suggestion for that, the color scheme, or anything else, let me know!

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Kevin Garrett said:
Very early sketch for my idea here. It will be a koala with features resembling Leonardo Da Vinci. The area with the hair will most likely resemble some kind of leaves. I haven't decided on that yet. If anyone has any suggestion for that, the color scheme, or anything else, let me know!
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Would have to use gum leaves, or eukalypt leaves. Check out their diet on wikipedia or something. Nice desgin. Very aussie :D
edit: fun fact, koala's have two thumbs on each hand! try incorporating that into the design, it might help distinguish it a little better.
 
SoIheardyoulikeSENTRET said:
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I like it, alot, its actually my favorite submission so far. But I suggest turning the end of the scarf into a paint brush (or something of the sort) for the "Sketch Artist" effect. It looks really nice, I love it. Do you think you can do a quick sketch with legs? (any kind of legs, doesn't have to be human)
 
@Mos-Quitoxe: Oh wow, that's a very nice improvement from before! It looks a lot more Grass-type than originally. The only real problems I have with it is that the pure whiteness of the paper seems too Normal-type and the Kanji. I'd recommend a less "processed" color for the paper. The Kanji looks fine, but feels like a lot of fake symbolism if we don't know what it means. For all I know, its face could be saying "Dragon of the Sea" right now, which clearly does not fit the theme.

@MektarTheOverlord: I really don't want to be "That one critic" to you, but the idea just seems... Crudely put, boring. They're possessed kitchen objects that are only distinguished by smiles. The only Grass-type I can see to it is the green, which doesn't correspond with the theme of a chef that well. I really don't know how you would improve it, but over all it just seems way too basic for one to be able to call a Pokemon.

@SoIHeardYouLikeSENTRET: It's looking nice. I'm not sure if I miss the bipedalness or not, all I know is that the single stick seems odd and if anything generic to a regular scarecrow. Hm... You say it helps add to a more ghost-like appearance. For an even ghostier appearance, I would recommend straw leaking out at the bottom to resemble a wispy tail. I'd also like to say your "Gravekeeper" style hunchback and "Stuffed sleeves" styled arms were my favorite. Experiment around some more, because it doesn't seem perfect yet, but it's getting pretty damn close.
 
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Damn. Doing digital art with a mouse is freaking time consuming. Replacing my main image with this image instead from my paper child photo. It's a better pose overall and of course it's nice to have a clean bit of art instead of pixel art.

(Edit: skin replaced with a deeper and softer black)
 
Wandering around the dark alleys and night, stumbling around in a drunken stupor; I stumble across this unassuming flower pot:

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The alcohol taking over, I scream loudly "FUCK YOUR POT!" and rear my leg back for a swift kick. I miss horribly and land flat on my ass. This only enrages me more, so I reclaim my senses slightly, and pick it up, hoping to smash it upon the pavement.

Before I thrust it down though, I'm stopped by an unsettling chuckle and a slight rumbling from the pot. I set it down and get in forward for a closer look, and then....

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BOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!


Frantic with fear, I run away, emptying my body's contents along the way.



Hehe, I believe I can have some fun with this lil guy. I made the leaves give him a sort of "anime hero" look, although now that I look at it, it looks a lot like Chrono from Chrono Trigger lol.
 
GRs Cousin said:
@MektarTheOverlord: I really don't want to be "That one critic" to you, but the idea just seems... Crudely put, boring. They're possessed kitchen objects that are only distinguished by smiles. The only Grass-type I can see to it is the green, which doesn't correspond with the theme of a chef that well. I really don't know how you would improve it, but over all it just seems way too basic for one to be able to call a Pokemon.
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It's cool. I probably need to be humbled anyway. Plus, you have a valid point. My art is basic. Some people appreciate simplicity in design, others such as yourself do not. A submission doesn't need everyone's vote to win. I can't appeal to everybody. From what I've heard, many people still feel that the 1st Gen was the best one, and many Pokémon from those games were very simple. Take Ratatta for example. It looks almost exactly like a real rat, but the purple color makes it unique. It's the same with my design. It's just three floating pieces of kitchenware with smiles on them. Simple by choice. Well, that, and I'm not a good enough artist to make complex designs. I don't want to steal any thunder from Doug, Yilx, Sentret, Mox, etc. either.

@KoA= were you inspired by these guys?:

http://spriters-resource.com/ds/yoshisislandds/sheet/4867
 
GRs Cousin said:
@Mos-Quitoxe: Oh wow, that's a very nice improvement from before! It looks a lot more Grass-type than originally. The only real problems I have with it is that the pure whiteness of the paper seems too Normal-type and the Kanji. I'd recommend a less "processed" color for the paper. The Kanji looks fine, but feels like a lot of fake symbolism if we don't know what it means. For all I know, its face could be saying "Dragon of the Sea" right now, which clearly does not fit the theme.
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I don't mean to barge into this topic unnecessarily, but I've been looking at all of the suggestions and stuff, and I just wanna say that so far, all of the characters I have seen, except for the normal face, has been accurate as far as I can tell. I'd trust that the art design would not be faulty in that.
For example, in the supplementary sketch where the Pokemon is using Flamethrower, the character on his "face" is 火, which means "fire." I can understand where you're coming from since not many people would really know what's going on but I feel that the Kanji is really a huge part of the character and "feeling" of the Pokemon.
 
Wyverii Your design is impeccably made, as always, and, as your designs so often do, looks like it should be a Pokemon already.

However, to me I can't escape the Dark typing on your design. As it stands right now, I see Dark mono-type, maybe a Dark/Grass.

I think you need to work first on giving off a more ghostly vibe, and then perhaps on enhancing the grassiness if it still feels necessary. Maybe you can accomplish better ghostliness with a less hard black coloring on the body. Or, as I suggested to Mos-Quixote about his paper, rips, tears, and even burns will possibly make the paper look less perfect and alive and hopefully more ghostly.

So many good designs this CAP! And I really do mean that. Last few CAPs I've been completely devoted to one design and this time there's at least 4-5 that I really, really like.
 
Been trying to draw what everybody wants all at once and it's getting me down and I'm losing the will to work. Yilx thank you for the advice, It led me to realise what I want out of the piece. To everyone who wants the art Kanji, I can't do it; I can't make it look like a face. People have been claiming that the current character makes it look constipated; all I can say to this is that it's intended to look like a furious warlord, and if having blocked-up paper bowels (with what I don't know) is part and parcel of that, then that's just how it is. GR's cousin, Duzt, the kanji on it's face in default is the one for "benefit" or "profit". I'm loath to add rags and tatters since it's complicated enough as it is.

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SO here's what I'm going to settle on design-wise. Regarding its not-dead-enough-ness, all I can say there is if sketch is going to be an egg move, then it's going to have to breed, and therefore cannot in fact be dead.
Will try to update later with more supplement art. (gotta keep up with the Yilxes! ( '3'))
 
back with a picture; I realized my reapermon (could) closely resemble another 'mon, and I drew it like that just for the heck of it:

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lol

Interrobang said:
Dust7
If you work on your second design, you need to be careful to avoid similarities with Giratina's origin forme. Perhaps make the 'wings' more vine/leaf like, because at the moment I fear it looks too similar. I'd also like to see more detail on the body/head; perhaps a close up? Keep working on it.
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(along with adressing many other people:)

Yes, a big issue seams to be that my phone always captures images out of focus. People seem to like the second pose also because it looks mobile and whatnot. As for wings, it probably could resemble giratina if it tried, just like Volcareaper. The shadowy protrusions are bendable and flexible, but I drew it straight to give it more of a "wingy" feel (a lot of those put together make quite an impression, sorry, couldn't find an example image)

yes, I had given up and made a final submission, but since it wasn't allowed (photo format) I had to redo it on ms paint. As such it motivated me to draw it more. Still have no idea how I'm gonna make a computer image for it, the best I have is badly drawn ms paint~ anyone got anything or can show me how it's done?

As for natural scythes, what would you suggest? I got nothing at the moment...

anyway

@wyverii as srk has said, it looks more dark than ghost... Still nice either way.

mos -quitoxe yes yes yes.

EDIT: he mimics lots of mons, Volcarona, Giratina, chikorita, he could pull off snivy and several others... Nah, he can't pull off enough like origami mon and yilx's shrine maiden
 
After some thought, I decided to discard my previous design and opt for a different one after reading the Stat Spread and some fun doodles, so here it is, up for critique!

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So it's a marionette, controlled by a giant ghostly hand. I have a few concerns about the design, but overall Im pretty happy, any big criticisms? (If I stick with the idea, it will look less like some weird Young Link, just to clarify)
 
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So, these two are competing for the role of final submission. Obviously the difference is in the brushes. Two people have favoured the pointy brushes so far, but I just wanted to show how in certain poses the more thistle-shaped brushes can resemble fans (although in a resting pose they're cylindrical), which really suits the kimono theme. I'm still undecided.

Edit: Coloured and selected:

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KoA - A great concept. I'd like to see you try out a range of different pot designs, although the current one is cool.
Mos-Quitoxe - I'm pretty conflicted in terms of the colours. Green makes it look much more Grass-type, but red and white looks much more ghostly and sombre.
Dust7 - I think you're jumping between designs without any good reason. You've had elements to draw out or draw in to your previous designs. Sure, the last one looked like Chikorita, but you could still work on that. I think you need to make your designs look less like the scythes are just tacked on. Make them look, perhaps, like branches or stems.
Wholphin (below) - I like this design as a concept, and I'd love to see a more refined drawing of it. I'd lose the purple nut, though, and develop the body to stand on its own features.
 
My design is a little more animal-like, since I think the lady thing is too cliche:
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This squirrel's ghost aspect is its tail, which is made of purplish gas, kind of like Gastly. That way, it can extend the tip of its tail, which is kind of a paintbrush, to draw stuff. It's grass aspect, the berry bush on its back, provides color for the stuff it draw. If it wants to draw in a certain color, it just plucks a berry off the bush and uses its special powers to extract the color and draw with it. I guess the thing it's holding is one of the berries.
 
^ I'd say the green underside with the light pink floral print could work well!
But yes, Mos-Quitoxe's submission is also one of my favorites.
 
Yilx
Amazing. You have my support till the final polls. However, I keep seeing your pokemon as more of a special sweeper. Is it possible to draw some physical flavor art in order to be more convincing?

tea_and_blues
Very nice design. I'm siding with the thristle-shaped brushes as the fan resemblance does add a nice touch.

Solstice
Forgive me, but the Nintendo fan within me keeps seeing Master Hand controlling Geno with Link's clothes. I'm sorry, but I can't unsee it.

Mos-Quitoxe
Very nice design. For the record, many warlords look like they have blocked bowels as rice diets often entailed constipation. A suggestion for flavor would be something like using...sacred sword? You know, that sounds pretty cool!

Wyverii
Nice to see that you caught him on computer after chasing him. I'm looking forward to more.

marc6kteam
I like the concept very much. If you can, please digitally recreate the drawing so we can have a clear picture of it and so it can compete that of Doug, Yilx, Wyverii and the rest of the talented.

Kevin Garrett
Koala ghost that looks like DaVinci...ok.

Dust7
I liked your earlier drawing better. Rather than change it that drastically in order to avoid looking like Giratina origin, I was thinking of shortening the scythe wings, reducing the number to 4 wings. It was a good concept...

Then again, I'm just a lurker. Good luck everyone!
 
Mos-Quitoxe - I'm usually a lurker but I've just got to say, your origami dude is fudging amazing. It looks so much like a real Pokemon, I don't even know what to say. My only issue is that, while paper is dead plants, I'm having trouble seeing either the Grass OR the Ghost typing. I really have no idea how to fix it, and I'll vote for yours anyway just because the design is so damn stylish, but just something to ponder. I thought the green paper with red flowers helped a bit in the Grass department. Maybe his shoulder pad thingies could be either green or purple to evoke the typing?
 
Okay trying to get this to a more solid place!
Some notes about this:
- long, grassy cape instead of porcupine spikes, because it's spookier and allows for a crop circle design on the back
- this is ghost and not dark typing because it is not evil or mischevious, but spooky, methodical, mysterious, obsessive
- colouring here is just a first try. definitely open to suggestions but I want to keep the greenish-yellowish-brownish theme of dry grass or wheat stalks. I definitely don't want to do purple or black.
- patterning is also definitely open to suggestion
- sketch is supposed to be subtly represented in the design (since it does not learn it by level up, so it shouldn't be blatant, but it should make sense) by the crop circle patterning that the pokemon accomplishes by flattening stalks with its wide arms
- creepy, long fingers instead of claws

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Sorry I don't have time to give feedback right now! I really need help/opinions for the colours and patterns though so please give me some feedback if you can!
 
Looking good, paintseagull. If an animal has claws like that then presumably it could just "sketch" things in the dirt beneath its feet. Just another of those little rationalisations. ^_^
 
Aura Disciple said:
Dust7
I liked your earlier drawing better. Rather than change it that drastically in order to avoid looking like Giratina origin, I was thinking of shortening the scythe wings, reducing the number to 4 wings. It was a good concept...

Then again, I'm just a lurker. Good luck everyone!
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lol Volcareaper was a joke. IDK about scythe wings, it doesn't have those, but I was thinking about the ability to change it's leaf "wings" into scythes (and back). Thoughts on this?

Also, would it sketch with it's scythe tips? (I believe it's called something) or use it's "wings"? Which, although aren't actually shaped like a paint brush, looks like it is from a 2 dimensional view of things.

EDIT: found a pic of an precision "art knife" (http://www.google.com/imgres?q=art+...&w=550&h=550&ei=c33YTqDBH8XXiAKHke2uCg&zoom=1)
 
@DougJustDoug: For what it's worth, I prefer the version with the see-through mask holes. I can sort of understand how it might make the design appear a bit busier, but I think that it's worth it because it's sort of a glaring inconsistency in the original design, at least to me. Some things to consider might be:
a) darkening the masks? Somebody else mentioned this already too. If they're supposed to appear as awards and this pokemon is supposed to represent faded beauty, then it might make sense for the awards to have lost their shine and become dull.
b) thickening the masks? This might not make any sense, but I have a bit of a hunch that part of the reason that the version with the see-through mask holes looks a little funny now is because the masks appear to be paper-thin.
Other than that, I think that the coloring and eyes are perfect the way that they are, and I love reading about all of the thought that you've put into the design story-wise. While a lot of other cool designs have come up in this thread, I think that Weeping Willow is still my favorite.

@SoIheardyoulikeSENTRET: I do like this shirt a lot better than the military jacket. It alleviates a good deal of the weird "Pokemon wearing clothes" issue by drawing less attention. I'm of two minds about the leg(s), though. On the one hand, I like the two-legged version better conceptually for purposes of actually picturing the Pokemon moving, and I'm even totally fine with the legs bending the way that you had them bend. On the other hand, I like how this new version's single leg is crooked and warped and more obviously wooden. Would it be possible to try two more crooked-looking legs? Then it might even be easier for people not to be bothered by their bending.

@paintseagull: I much prefer being able to see the crop circle design on the creature's back, so I really like it in that regard. However, other parts of the design seem to have lost some of what I thought made the initial version look so cool, and after comparing back and forth, I think that the issue for me with this version is that it looks noticeably less bulky, specifically its body and upper arms. It looks longer and sleeker now, and that change, along with the change from claws to fingers, isn't one that I'm a fan of. It might help to see more of it though, different angles and action shots and so on. I still really like the general design, and your concept is definitely one of my favorites.
 
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