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The Everything NHL Thread

only in Montreal could the losing goalie (who played well, granted) and a player with ZERO POINTS get first and second stars above Gaustad's first 3-point night since 2010
 
popemobile said:
jack edwards is ... one of the biggest homers in the league
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I don't get it. How is that a bad thing? I like announcers that sound excited about what they're watching. Same reason why I love Gus Johnson and hate Joe Buck. It's not like he's going on some national broadcast where he's expected to appease people with neutrality, it's on NESN. Yelling at players "GET UP!" and laughing at fans of other teams, adds another dimension to the broadcast that I've never seen on TV before. I love it. More announcers should take pride in their teams like that.

And his comments on Pouliot in the first vid are exactly right and have continued to be right even during his rise to mediocrity on the Bruins. The dude was a #4 pick in the draft and is now fighting to make the second line. Pouliot also has no place fighting someone like Ference. He's one of the bigger draft busts in recent memory out of any sport. Him coming to the Bruins was a huge surprise, although considering he took Kaberle's spot on the roster we had to be somewhat optimistic.

You basically picked the video that makes Edwards look greatest. Listening to him during that series (game 3 especially) made me fall in love with this team.
 
^Sickest burn of the Canadiens and their fans ever broadcast. Pure gold. The Bruins are no longer a joke in the NHL at the same time as the Habs are falling apart, there's nothing that could resuscitate a hockeytown quite like that.

CaptainKishimoto said:
Not even close.
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Oh you're right, he's way older than I thought. His story is just more talked about

also
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jrrrrrrr said:
You basically picked the video that makes Edwards look greatest. Listening to him during that series (game 3 especially) made me fall in love with this team.
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So you admit to being a bandwagon fan. Not that we all didn't know this already.
 
I've never tried to hide the fact that I'm a newcomer to the NHL fandom. I've only started watching since the lockout, and watching regularly in the Julien era, and watching religiously in the last 3 years. The Bruins used to be a laughing stock with an owner so bad that reporters would openly question whether he was intentionally sabotaging the team. They still have the terrible owner but the team is coming around quite nicely. My friends and I used to like the Avalanche in the 90s and early 2ks (getting Bourque just made this sweeter) because of how slimey the management was. I think I still have an old Forsberg jersey somewhere...
 
jrrrrrrr said:
I've never tried to hide the fact that I'm a newcomer to the NHL fandom. I've only started watching since the lockout, and watching regularly in the Julien era, and watching religiously in the last 3 years. The Bruins used to be a laughing stock with an owner so bad that reporters would openly question whether he was intentionally sabotaging the team. They still have the terrible owner but the team is coming around quite nicely. My friends and I used to like the Avalanche in the 90s and early 2ks (getting Bourque just made this sweeter) because of how slimey the management was. I think I still have an old Forsberg jersey somewhere...
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Things that make you go hmmm...
 
Liking a team != liking the NHL. The Avs had good players that I liked, but the league itself was never on TV around here. I liked the players but it's not like I could tell you all of their stats or w/e. I loved olympic hockey though, I have a Team USA jersey signed by Mike Modano hanging up on my wall right next to a picture of me with Joe Thornton on the ice of the former FleetCenter. I won a Dunkin Donuts contest and got to skate around with him. That's about the extent of my hockey love before 6 years ago

But can we not make this thread about me please, the Bruins are on tomorrow.
 
DM said:
only in Montreal could the losing goalie (who played well, granted) and a player with ZERO POINTS get first and second stars above Gaustad's first 3-point night since 2010
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Fans vote the 3 stars in Montreal as opposed to having (usually?) member(s) of the press deciding them I believe, expect homer results.

The three stars are meaningless anyway.
 
jrrrrrrr said:
I don't get it. How is that a bad thing? I like announcers that sound excited about what they're watching. Same reason why I love Gus Johnson and hate Joe Buck. It's not like he's going on some national broadcast where he's expected to appease people with neutrality, it's on NESN. Yelling at players "GET UP!" and laughing at fans of other teams, adds another dimension to the broadcast that I've never seen on TV before. I love it. More announcers should take pride in their teams like that.

And his comments on Pouliot in the first vid are exactly right and have continued to be right even during his rise to mediocrity on the Bruins. The dude was a #4 pick in the draft and is now fighting to make the second line. Pouliot also has no place fighting someone like Ference. He's one of the bigger draft busts in recent memory out of any sport. Him coming to the Bruins was a huge surprise, although considering he took Kaberle's spot on the roster we had to be somewhat optimistic.

You basically picked the video that makes Edwards look greatest. Listening to him during that series (game 3 especially) made me fall in love with this team.
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At least now that I know Edwards I can understand your behavior. You pretty much emulate what I've seen in the videos. He's a pretty colourful guy, I give him that.

Still, I knew there were homer announcers for every team but of this magnitude I would have never guessed, it actually came as a shock to me. I'm perfectly fine with him being a huge homer but much less with his sad ways of antagonising the other team, which is what makes it look so bad. It's unrequired and it cheapens the sport by making it look like some garage league.

It's easy to understand your intense hatred for the Canucks now. It doesn't only have to do with facing them for the Stanley Cup, it likely has more to do with this sort of awful announcing. At the very least, you make it quite easier for me to understand how people can be so deeply influenced by garbage radio hosts that paint the world in the most manichean way. You're one of the good guys.. and you are one of those because you aren't one of the other party, made of worst imagineable people only deserving scorn. In hockey, I guess that would be cheaters, divers, whiners, worthless draft busts, spineless cowards. Not terms I remember hearing by a commentator before.

This is not the sort of culture I want to see hockey tied to, where even the analysts on tv are fucking hooligans. Seriously, I don't expect them to call it all the way down the middle, being a homer is fine but they shouldn't be yelling at opposing players. Much less insulting them. What the fuck is this shit and why would anyone take so much pride in enjoying it. If my home team's announcers pulled anything like it, I'd be completely embarassed as a fan and the guy likely wouldn't still have his job for the next game.
 
Vineon said:
Fans vote the 3 stars in Montreal as opposed to having (usually?) member(s) of the press deciding them I believe, expect homer results.

The three stars are meaningless anyway.
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Members of the press provide just as big homer results, the guy that scores the winning goal, even if he didn't do shit the rest of the game with get first start almost every time.

But I agree with you that they are completely useless.
 
Vineon said:
It's easy to understand your intense hatred for the Canucks now. It doesn't only have to do with facing them for the Stanley Cup, it likely has more to do with this sort of awful announcing.
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I would hate the Canucks even if I didn't watch hockey. The actions of the team and their fans speak for themselves, reminding me more and more of some trashy foreign soccer league every time I see or hear them, complete with riots when they lose and reputations of diving. Jack and Brick were actually pretty kind to the Canucks in that series, all things considered (Burrows biting, Rome headshotting Horton, Maxim Lapierre existing, Canuck players up-ending Bruins players in the style that got Marchand suspended this season, etc). It's pretty much just the Canadiens that bring out the worst in them. Just the other day they were praising the Ottawa Senators with the same enthusiasm that they laugh at P.K. Subban, but of course you won't see that clip on youtube. That excitement balances out nicely between highs and lows.

Vineon said:
...What the fuck is this shit and why would anyone take so much pride in enjoying it.
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Because it's natural to get excited while watching a fast paced and physical game like hockey. It's something many people relate to. I couldn't imagine watching a full season of hockey announcers who act like Joe Buck "he passes it. goal. scored by seguin. the bruins have tied the game. it is the 3rd period. i wonder what will happen next." Unbearable. Even if I disagree with what some guy on tv is saying I want him to sound like he's enjoying watching it, it makes it way more realistic. Like I'm watching the game in the stands with someone who cares as much about it as I do, if not more.
 
jrrrrrrr said:
I would hate the Canucks even if I didn't watch hockey. The actions of the team and their fans speak for themselves, reminding me more and more of some trashy foreign soccer league every time I see or hear them, complete with riots when they lose and reputations of diving. Jack and Brick were actually pretty kind to the Canucks in that series, all things considered (Burrows biting, Rome headshotting Horton, Maxim Lapierre existing, Canuck players up-ending Bruins players in the style that got Marchand suspended this season, etc).
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Are you telling me these were not all stuff said in the broadcast and thus couldn't contribute to you having this sort of opinion?

jrrrrrrr said:
Because it's natural to get excited while watching a fast paced and physical game like hockey. It's something many people relate to. I couldn't imagine watching a full season of hockey announcers who act like Joe Buck "he passes it. goal. scored by seguin. the bruins have tied the game. it is the 3rd period. i wonder what will happen next." Unbearable. Even if I disagree with what some guy on tv is saying I want him to sound like he's enjoying watching it, it makes it way more realistic. Like I'm watching the game in the stands with someone who cares as much about it as I do, if not more.
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Believe it or not, it is possible to be excited about the game without so much antagonizing the other team.
 
Still funny to read it again since it's so hilariously accurate(though I'd at least swap Washington and New Jersey, because all those things the guy marks the Devils team off for are ADORABLE... I'm pretty sure Chico actually does think the players are his grandchildren and I love him for it.) Boston's team is pretty notoriously horrible in the hockey community Vin, I'm surprised you haven't heard us bitching about them before... most of the popular hockey sites jab Edwards every once in a while. By far the most unlistenable telecast in the league, though there's a lot of other really bad ones like the one here in Detroit(though I love Mickey Redmond like I love Chico Resch).

EDIT: I think I bitched about this last time too but I don't understand how the Sharks team is only 3 stars, they're the best in the league by a huge margin in my mind... only Dallas(correctly 5 stars) comes close.
 
Vineon said:
Are you telling me these were not all stuff said in the broadcast and thus couldn't contribute to you having this sort of opinion?
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The cup finals weren't aired on NESN, they were on NBC/Versus. Jack Edwards wasn't a part of the experience, unfortunately. Everything I mentioned was something I saw happen and impacted my opinion.

Vineon said:
Believe it or not, it is possible to be excited about the game without so much antagonizing the other team.
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Possible, yes, but not as much fun




Also instead of double posting, the Blue Jackets got hosed last night and I didn't see anything in this thread:

http://espn.go.com/nhl/story/_/id/7...gs-scoreboard-error-win-columbus-blue-jackets

The clock stopped with 1.8 seconds left, and the Kings went on to score the game winning goal with 0.5 seconds left...
 
Did anyone catch the Habs-Devils game tonight. Refs completely ignored a holding call and seconds later the Devils score the game winnner late in the third. So much for les tricolors... This just about puts a rap on the season for Montreal. At this point they should go for the high draft pick.
 
I hear this all the time and I'd like to understand how exactly you go for a high draft pick.

Is the GM going to tell the coach that losing a few more games might be a good idea?
 
Vineon said:
I hear this all the time and I'd like to understand how exactly you go for a high draft pick.

Is the GM going to tell the coach that losing a few more games might be a good idea?
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Your right, in theory they cant actually "go" for the high draft pick... What I meant was that it would be nice to at least get something out of the season should the hans not make the post season.
 
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