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League of Legends: Let's Talk About uhhh??
- Thread starter Thorns
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good point on scout, ill drop it. Not sure how keen i am on dropping the CDR, its the best stat on supports in my uneducated, humble opinion but ill try it.
honestly, depends on the specific champion and matchups - for basic examples, jax goes offense because it gives him defense as well, yorick goes defense or a bit of everything and if i was to play olaf again, id use my 1/21/8 runepage for mana regen and mastermind. Lots of people do different things so yeah, if you could us know the champion you want advice with, that would be great.
also by hybrid jax, do you mean a similar style to the trinity force > hextech > ga that was the go to build for last season?
I just think of Biscuiteer as a 35g Wealth. It's a half health, half mana potion. It's okay on anyone that uses mana, a slight edge in pre-first back laning, nothing more.
Picking up Unyielding + Block on supports isn't worth the loss of Nimble if you ask me. Maybe on the melee supports who can't make much out of Pickpocket, since that's the biggest reason for going so deep in Utility, but CDR and movespeed are still pretty awesome on supports (and everyone else). In that case it's not even particularly worth going past Greed though, which gives you five more points to put into Defense where Juggernaut into Defender is a really strong way to spend four mastery points plus a floater for Good Hands, Summoner's Wrath, or 1/2 Wealth.
I like 1/2 Wealth anyway since I always rush Sightstone. It's worth 8gp10+, rushing Philo is for chumps, and you don't need more than two starting wards unless you're warding a buff pre-minions. Most starts benefit from both points but I like Flask + Green/Pink, which leaves me an odd amount of gold where I get a second potion from 1/2 Wealth but not a third from 2/2. That'll get me through to the point I can back for Sightstone and greenies just clog up an item slot after that. Pinks are still useful. Flask > Bead/Charm because it's more efficient and Flask > Bead+Charm (or Flask with one) because you can't get enough extra wards and potions to go with both.
Flask is awesome but your options as a nonsupport are pretty limited starting with one. All you get is Bead/Charm, if you want a future item built from them, or a gajillion potions/wards. Flask+Cloth or Flask+Machete with 2/2 Wealth are cool but ultimately kinda gimmicky since starting potions are so helpful, even with the Flask. You can still pick Flask up on your first back and get a lot of use out of it, though. And unlike potions, which you may not "need" to use and ultimately waste, there's no penalty to just spamming this thing every time you have health and mana missing. Even manaless champions only need to use it six times to get their money's worth but Flask sure makes having a mana bar that much more awesome now.
Picking up Unyielding + Block on supports isn't worth the loss of Nimble if you ask me. Maybe on the melee supports who can't make much out of Pickpocket, since that's the biggest reason for going so deep in Utility, but CDR and movespeed are still pretty awesome on supports (and everyone else). In that case it's not even particularly worth going past Greed though, which gives you five more points to put into Defense where Juggernaut into Defender is a really strong way to spend four mastery points plus a floater for Good Hands, Summoner's Wrath, or 1/2 Wealth.
I like 1/2 Wealth anyway since I always rush Sightstone. It's worth 8gp10+, rushing Philo is for chumps, and you don't need more than two starting wards unless you're warding a buff pre-minions. Most starts benefit from both points but I like Flask + Green/Pink, which leaves me an odd amount of gold where I get a second potion from 1/2 Wealth but not a third from 2/2. That'll get me through to the point I can back for Sightstone and greenies just clog up an item slot after that. Pinks are still useful. Flask > Bead/Charm because it's more efficient and Flask > Bead+Charm (or Flask with one) because you can't get enough extra wards and potions to go with both.
Flask is awesome but your options as a nonsupport are pretty limited starting with one. All you get is Bead/Charm, if you want a future item built from them, or a gajillion potions/wards. Flask+Cloth or Flask+Machete with 2/2 Wealth are cool but ultimately kinda gimmicky since starting potions are so helpful, even with the Flask. You can still pick Flask up on your first back and get a lot of use out of it, though. And unlike potions, which you may not "need" to use and ultimately waste, there's no penalty to just spamming this thing every time you have health and mana missing. Even manaless champions only need to use it six times to get their money's worth but Flask sure makes having a mana bar that much more awesome now.
i mainly play Top lane..so i guess Darius/Jax/Olaf, and i guess Volibear could be counted as a top, but i haven't played him at all yet in S3.
And yea, that Jax. been wondering if rushing a Blade of the Ruined King after Trinity Force is viable to, or if Trinity > Hextech is still best.
Dude you don't understand, he needs the Frozen Mallet because he has no slows in his kit.
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