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All starter type rumors that include a secondary type paper/rock/scizors are fake.
They smell of fanservice from a billion galaxies away. Gen 4 starters were an anomaly, everyone should get over it.

To be fair, if you look at the video it does like like Chespin, Fennekin and Froakie are using Night Slash, Psychic/Confusion or whatever and Wake Up Slap, respectively. That is quite suggestive that they will evolve into those types to me.
 
To be fair, if you look at the video it does like like Chespin, Fennekin and Froakie are using Night Slash, Psychic/Confusion or whatever and Wake Up Slap, respectively. That is quite suggestive that they will evolve into those types to me.

Pretty sure that's not Night Slash (it's probably Aerial Ace) and nothing really implies anything about whatever move Froakie used
 
Pretty sure that's not Night Slash (it's probably Aerial Ace) and nothing really implies anything about whatever move Froakie used

Well it's not definite, but it seems like one of the most plausible rumours in this thread. (more believable than anything else from b2j135's post.)
 
All starter type rumors that include a secondary type paper/rock/scizors are fake.
They smell of fanservice from a billion galaxies away. Gen 4 starters were an anomaly, everyone should get over it.
As much as I hate to admit it, I have to agree with this.

And new type rumors are full of cr*p, like they have been for 3 gen in a row.
Although I don't agree with this part. On a fundamental level, it seems like a bad business/marketing move to keep Sylveon's type a mystery, then constantly refer to the fact that it was a mystery, and finally directly and audibly speculate about it on Smash, only to end up with some 'mundane old' type. I'd say that the text caption "Super effective?!" on Smash was the tipping point, at least for me. Why go and emphasize it only for it to end up false?
 
I don't know if anyone else has said anything about this, but...
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As I recall, one of the rumors stated that Mewtwo had two forms, not just one.
Well...that's basically confirmed, though I'm sure the source of the rumor saw this before posting. The picture is from the Japanese movie website, so it should be legit. The two smaller pictures of Mewtwo appear to have miniscule differences from each other and are labeled 'X' and 'Y'.
So there we have it, Mewtwo has an X and Y form. It certainly fits with the supposed genetics theme, Mewtwo being the Genetic Pokemon and all...
(Sorry if anyone else posted this already. I couldn't remember if anyone had confirmed it or not, but oh well)
 
I reversed searched that image and it appears to have been submitted a month ago, not just released. I don't think it's legitimate; the formes look WAY too similar to be the same.

In fact, you can even see the spots where lugia's fingers were grafted on to mewtwo's hands.
 
I don't know if anyone else has said anything about this, but...
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As I recall, one of the rumors stated that Mewtwo had two forms, not just one.
Well...that's basically confirmed, though I'm sure the source of the rumor saw this before posting. The picture is from the Japanese movie website, so it should be legit. The two smaller pictures of Mewtwo appear to have miniscule differences from each other and are labeled 'X' and 'Y'.
So there we have it, Mewtwo has an X and Y form. It certainly fits with the supposed genetics theme, Mewtwo being the Genetic Pokemon and all...
(Sorry if anyone else posted this already. I couldn't remember if anyone had confirmed it or not, but oh well)

That's a fake mockup that, no offense, is pretty obviously fake when you compare the quality of the two Mewtwo forms with all the Genesects on the other side. The official website's version got updated and shows Mewtwo and its currently revealed new form occupying those two hexagons with a double-sided arrow between them:

http://www.pokemon-movie.jp/pokemon/long.php

This is not to say that the picture can't be updated later to have a second new Mewtwo form replacing the regular Mewtwo picture in one of the hexagons, but yeah.
 
Ah, sorry. I'd seen the pic on the actual site before the forms were filled in, and I stopped following the other thread after nothing but running in circles with speculation, so I guess I just assumed it was the actual thing. Oh well.
Now that I think about it, it really was stupid to assume it was legitimate. If it was truly a new form, there would've been another big reveal.
My thoughts otherwise:
- Praying that there won't be a fairy type.
- Praying that there won't be dual-type attacks.
- Praying that the rumors regarding the lore behind Xerneas and Yveltal have some truth to them.
 
If there are two metwo alternate forms, ie - 4 varients on mew, it might explain why gamefreak clearly ran out of non-goofy looking feet designs and gave mew2"x" those eggplant toes. he got stuck with the aubergine genes
 
Staraptor gets CC, but as for the others, can't pretty much every single one of them learn heat wave already? I guess none of them can really use it well though.

Just watch as GF gives Fletchling Flare Blitz, and still won't give it to flareon.

It's been stated before, but I'll say it again. Flare Blitz does nothing for Flareon. He'd be better off with something like Technician, or Sheer Force. Either way, his stats, current movepool (which isn't likely to get much better) and typing keep him ever being more than RU at best.

Edit: Also, Darmanitan outclasses Flareon in every way. Better speed, better ability, and better movepool.
 
Jeez, people

Just passing by to say that "leaker" from /vp/ is an asshat known as Monsieur Leaker (really). He's probably Mr. XY, trying to "troll" everyone again. He's the source of that talk of Yveltal being the Destroyer and Xerneas the Creator, and also the one who "explained" how dual-type moves work.

Sigh, this is what happens when sites simply steal info only to get a couple hundreds of pageviews...

Ok, so let's say people simply didn't read my post. It was the second-to-last in the page, that's fine I guess.

But how do you see a link to an obscure Spanish site you've never, EVER heard of before and, instead of outright ignoring it, not only open it, but start reading the goddamn thing and

don't notice this

Ahora, la supuesta misma fuente de esa filtración ha decidido dar algunos detalles de los próximos juegos en 4chan, respondiendo a las preguntas que le hacían los usuarios sobre el título.

and then THIS

Cabe mencionar que, al contrario de la filtración de PokéBeach, no hay nada confirmado.

You don't even need to know Spanish. You should get the hint from "4chan", "no" and "confirm-".

And I'm not even going to venture into that Sylveon madness, much less the other posts I saw. If it's not confirmed info or at least a decent rumor, don't discuss it. Stellar's second post in this thread clearly says this one's for confirmed info ONLY. We only really let the Pokébeach rumors discussion going because... the source seems legit even if it looks like a fanboy dream... But still. If you really want to discuss rumor legitimacy, Sylveon's name origin, whatever weird rumor you come across on 4chan, join #orangeislands on IRC. Or join the Frequenters Delve Deeper social group.
 
Also, new rule: if you come across a rumor and you think it's hot shit, DON'T post. VM/PM an OI moderator (preferably me, for reasons) and he'll post it IF they believe it has got any kind of legitimacy to it. You can post 100% confirmed info yourself, meaning anything from Pokémon.com, Serebii or Pokébeach as long as it's labeled as such in those sites; the mods will update the OP with it for newcomers anyway.

And no rumor legitimacy discussion. This never gets us anywhere.
 
Alright, not a rumor - and people who visit Pokememes regularly will recognize this -

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-someone finally took the time to go into the source code of the new Pokemon X and Y website. While not revealing much...really nothing...the terminology is interesting. "Whats new" and "strategy" are basically expected, but referring to something as "primary feature?"

I believe this primary feature could be any number of things - a preliminary text that will be modified because they realized people would do this (especially considering the typo in "whats no apostrophe new"), the new bonding mechanic, or even just the 3D.

Not really amazing information or revolutionary news, but it's something.
 
Cyclical, we are so cyclical. All of us. Even me.
Scratch that. Especially me.

I like Froakie's Water Pulse and the Flame Charge & Fire Spin shown in the trailer, as the water ringlets and fire animations are MUCH prettier than what was shown in January. If they use that same kind of fire in Flame Charge for Charmander's tail and Rapidash's mane, I would be quite pleased.
 
Also, new rule: if you come across a rumor and you think it's hot shit, DON'T post. VM/PM an OI moderator (preferably me, for reasons) and he'll post it IF they believe it has got any kind of legitimacy to it. You can post 100% confirmed info yourself, meaning anything from Pokémon.com, Serebii or Pokébeach as long as it's labeled as such in those sites; the mods will update the OP with it for newcomers anyway.

And no rumor legitimacy discussion. This never gets us anywhere.

Also, while not a rule, I'd like to just sort of ask the thread to put Slyveon on the backburner.
Please.

Yes, yes, I know every rumor and their mother have something to say about it
Yes, yes, I know Smash is doing its thang on it for the forseeable future
Yes, yes, I know we all want to know what type it is

but it has been 3 months and it just strangles conversation about anything with constant arguments about "Oh is it this type, no its this type, that's dumb it's clearly this type, maybe they changed the type cha--"




Anyway!
As for the site thing, I mentioned this on serebii but for I think for strategy it will likely be something like:
Strategy might just be them giving various general tips and such for move sets, how to use attacks, team building and such
They've always done it in guides, but Nintendo in general seems to like doing small little information videos for their games nowadays.

while "Primary Feature" is just a placeholder for...well...the primary feature of the game, whatever that may be (like that Bond thing)
 
Very well, if not Sylveon then how about something I said a few pages back that got ignored?

The region is star shaped. There is a central city, with several exits. Might we be taking this adventure non-linearly? Might we be able to choose which direction we head and explore in, being held back only be the high level pokemon at the extremities of the map?
 
Very well, if not Sylveon then how about something I said a few pages back that got ignored?

The region is star shaped. There is a central city, with several exits. Might we be taking this adventure non-linearly? Might we be able to choose which direction we head and explore in, being held back only be the high level pokemon at the extremities of the map?

Alternatively, it could just be a hub of sorts. Various exits blocked off until you get a badge and backtrack, for instance.
 
Oh look... the rumors are fake as I predicted long ago. It's good to see that banging my heads against the walls to convince people didn't work.
 
Alternatively, it could just be a hub of sorts. Various exits blocked off until you get a badge and backtrack, for instance.
Aw... I'm hoping for an actual change in the structure of the pokemon adventure. You know, like... not the same as all the previous one.
(Nobody say you could challenge gyms A,B, and C out of order. Good for them. The game was not built around your ability to choose the order.)
 
Oh look... the rumors are fake as I predicted long ago. It's good to see that banging my heads against the walls to convince people didn't work.

Stop talking like you work for Nintendo. Rumors are rumors and there's just as much evidence disproving them as there is proving they could exist. Let people discuss without patronizing them.
 
@Mario With Lasers, People weren't really discussing the tidbits from 4chan. It was basically always about the pokebeach list (granted I do think it was discussed too much). But so yeah, I don't see the problem.

@BloodGod22, What makes you think any rumor has been proven fake recently?

Anyway, the "Whats New" is particularly interesting to me. Why wait to have that section? What new info release will cause them to add it?

Also, Nintendo might actually be starting to get the picture about how linearity hurts games. They're finally moving away from it with Zelda. Maybe Pokemon too. I see no good reason against it, and there is evidence in the map.
 
@Mario With Lasers, People weren't really discussing the tidbits from 4chan. It was basically always about the pokebeach list (granted I do think it was discussed too much). But so yeah, I don't see the problem.

It varies from page to page
The pokebeach rumors being discussed is also part of the problem

Anyway, the "Whats New" is particularly interesting to me. Why wait to have that section? What new info release will cause them to add it?

It will probably be where they put various miscellaneous (but new, obviously) features that won't fit anywhere else.
Probably like changes to bags, the pc, the pokedex, whatever gimmicks, maybe battle facilities
things like that
 
Just because it's not confirmed doesn't mean it's fake. lol

But most of it sounds really fake, to be fair.

Also, I don't see why people are still ignoring the information given by Poke Smash--
Sylveon IS weak towards poison AND strong against ice, according to the male staffs AND the emphasized subtitles.

I assume that they really don't want a new type.
Quite a few of us had been making the Poke Smash point but is still being ignored.
 
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