First off, FAIRIES.
Second, The speculation here is becoming a bit baseless, I won't deny. It looks like people haven't stopped to think that maybe Fennekin will evolve into something more tactical and setup-based if it learns stuff like Howl.
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Second, The speculation here is becoming a bit baseless, I won't deny. It looks like people haven't stopped to think that maybe Fennekin will evolve into something more tactical and setup-based if it learns stuff like Howl.
Umm, that comment was meant to be a joke about people overanalysing Howl's presence. Although I wouldn't say that a new type is so unlikely that it calls for the deaths of puppies as punishment. Right now there's enough evidence to suggest that the types aren't staying the same at least.
Cresselia~~
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Since now that the mods here on Smogon AND Pokebeach has sufficient data as to who provided us with the source of the Fairy type,
shouldn't you be paying more attention to what they have said,
instead of relying solely on your "instincts"?
It is not a matter of an absent move, nor the colour charts.
It is merely of who said it.
Anything could be unlikely in Pokemon, and you should have known Game Freak better.
Who knew it was going to be Black 2 White 2 instead of Gray back then?
Game Freak likes to play with things that are unlikely.
Kill a puppy? Then that puppy would die for nothing.
Keep in mind, you guys. Bulbasaur learns Leech Seed before Vine Whip and Cyndaquil learns Smokescreen before Ember. If Fennekin learns a status move before an attacking technique by levelling up, it won't be the first time that order has happened to a starter. Then again, most of the starters will have naturally levelled into two new techniques by level 11, so there's always that.
Like anyone else here I wish for the same thing, that Fennekin will be a unique and special starter that is viable enough to be used in OU.
The sad reality, however, is that there is a bigger chance for her to be yet another pure Fire type with a horrid stat distribution and shallow move pool.
When it comes to starters GF rarely does it right.
As for new types like I said before, NOTHING can convince me it's real except an official announcement. Anything else is just wishful thinking and trolling.
If I'm wrong then I'm wrong and i will accept that. I don't use my "instincts" when it comes to this topic, only cold hard facts. It will take more than wishful thinking and some rumors to prove that Fairy type is real.
Anyway, back on topic:
I'm really curious if the 3d Models in the pokedex are interactive. Or the battle stage.
It would be awsome to rotate the camera and vew things from different angles.
Cresselia~~
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But neither could anyone from the opposing side provide evidence as to proofing it as non-existing.
As I said, mods of both Smogon and Pokebeach now acknowledge who that person is, and acknowledge the source.
If you want to pull out the "official announcement" fact out,
well, it is a wise play-safe move when you don't know of any connections to insiders,
but equally the others as to wishful thinking despite people have a reliable source is not a good assumption neither. (If people have been here long enough to distinguish who is who.)
I personally am not one who wishes fairy type--
thinking that it exists does not equal to wanting it exist.
I do not see how fairy type could have benefited the Pokemon franchise.
(Though I do not hate it)
If I want to wish, I would wish for a plastic / polymer type. (Not for Sylveon though)
But back then, Pokemon Smash said that people won't be able to guess what Sylveon's type is.
So the probability of that type being a new type is very high.
But really, that new type is supposed to be called Yosei in Japanese,
whether it translates into Fairy or Pixie or faerie or whatever, is still subject to question.
Is your decision on which starter you choose really going to be solely based on it's competitive value?
No.
Otherwise I wouldn't love Torterra and Serperior. However most people go for the strongest option, especially those with competitive knowledge.
And trust me, nobody wants his favorite starter to have a bad stat spread/crappy movepool.
Well I got something to talk about then...Helioptile's stat spreads, moves and evolution.
The guy is an Electric/Normal type which inherently means he is GOING TO BE FAST and have a really nice Sp.Atk stat as well. The normal side makes him a target for Fighting types though, but he can play a VERY good check for Ghost types like Sableye and Jellicent.
Parabolic Charge is a FANTASTIC move as it seems to have range like Discharge and can heal the user by absorbing HP from the opponent. This played will with Leftovers and Substitute can give the Helipotile family enough chance to survive and defeat the Fighters.
Now for moves, besides Parabolic Charge, I can DEFINTELY see TWave being useful as well as Discharge. Heck it might even get Double-Edge and make a decent sweeper. It's gonna need some good boosting moves though...Swords Dance? Charge Beam certainly fits well here. Might even get Nasty Plot. Work Up is good for being a Mixed set so it can utilize both it's types.
Finally the evolution(s)...I'm thinking more A LOT of Speed and decent Sp.Atk. The Frilled Lizard is QUITE the quick lizard and is also intimidating. Heck it might even get Intimidate as an ability for the evolution.
Well that is all I can think of off the top of my head...what do you guys think?
I disagree, there are multiple electrics that aren't fast most notably ampharos, there are also physical electrics on the other hand there are very few special normal types so while keeping the normal dual type of heli in mind its possible parabola charge is a physical move and this one will be a strong early physical attacker like most early mons,a generator traditionally stays in place doesn't it, even if it is a lizard I don't see it being fast at most it'll be as fast as Charizard, I'm thinking slower
Parabolic Charge sounds like a very face-value tecnique, as it suggests that something about the technique, perhaps the drained energy, will arc in the shape of a parabola while traveling. On the other hand, it is a mathematical attack, so for it to be invented this generation could be seen as a hint towards X and Y being coordinate/graph-themed.
It is also cowardly, and most cowards I can think of (Team Rocket, Dan Hibiki, etc) tend to RUN PRETTY FAST albeit comically...and it IS a Frilled Lizard and they are pretty damn speedy.
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Parabolic Charge will most likely be a Special Attack and hit adjacent opponents as stated by Helioptile's description.
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Just saying, I don't think that Helioptile will retain his Electric/Normal typing when he evolves.
Good point. I personally hope it's much closer to Giga Drain(75BP) than Mega Drain(40BP) or, God forbid, Leech Life(20BP.) I hope it isn't too earlygame...
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I'm betting on 75 BP. To be honest, though, I'm not sure if you can justify using it for that drop in power relative to thunderbolt...
I get the feeling it will be a variant of Mega Drain. 75 bp would be lovely, but this is a signature move that the basic level Helioptile learns, presumably around level 20. That kind of situation makes me think it'll be 40 bp, but if it's a signature move, it may not even be a variant of a current draining technique, so I think with that mindset, it may have 50-60 bp.
It might be the equivalent of Absorb, being terribly weak but having more powerful versions of it available later. What genius trolling that would be on GameFreak's part:
First hyping the entire fanbase to the max with Parabolic Charge. "Omgz its gunna be the best move evah!". Watch and giggle while the Internet creates strategies and discusses its utility.
Then laughing loudly while revealing it has a base power of 20. The Internet falls apart with curse words.
Then revealing a proper Electric Giga Drain with an identical distribution to Parabolic Charge, but a slightly different name. Manical laughter while the Pokémon fans confuse the two forever.
First hyping the entire fanbase to the max with Parabolic Charge. "Omgz its gunna be the best move evah!". Watch and giggle while the Internet creates strategies and discusses its utility.
Then laughing loudly while revealing it has a base power of 20. The Internet falls apart with curse words.
Then revealing a proper Electric Giga Drain with an identical distribution to Parabolic Charge, but a slightly different name. Manical laughter while the Pokémon fans confuse the two forever.
Question, has anyone though of the possibility that Dual Type moves are moves that are of one type but act as if they are form another? (ex. Scald gets Water STAB and the rain boost yet it does damage as if it were a Fire Move except for immunities) At least that's what I thought dual type moves were referring
Yeah, but with the current mechanics, even a 75BP move mould hit for less in doubles or triples.
Unless I'm wrong or they change that too.
Where did you get that from?
Scald is a weaker surf with a 98,5% chance to inflict BRN status, which only happens to be commonly associated with fire.
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