Pokémon XY General Discussion

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I'm getting confused by the sketches. We now have at least 3 that seem relatively detailed. The one I posted earlier and these:
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They have some similarities, but also some key differences. I'm guessing that the Pokemon must have been shown for a very short time for people to draw it that differently. I prefer the one from serebii. At least it looks more like a ghost type than a dark type.
This sketch should be discounted. It was made on /vp/ by a guy trying to draw based on another guy's description of Orroto that he "saw in the movie." However, the guy describing it hadn't seen it, but didn't admit to that until after the drawing was done.
 
I was checking the official Pokemon website and I stumbled upon this description of Oblivion Wing:
"After flying high into the sky, Yveltal releases a beam of red light that scorches the ground."

Man that might indicate that it's a charging move, which would suck :/.
 
I was checking the official Pokemon website and I stumbled upon this description of Oblivion Wing:
"After flying high into the sky, Yveltal releases a beam of red light that scorches the ground."

Man that might indicate that it's a charging move, which would suck :/.
This would also lead me to think Yveltal is going to have useable (by uber standards) special attack though many have inferred it to be a more physical attack user. But a two-turn attack? Did they learn nothing with Giratinas shadow force? *sigh*

I don't think game mechanics will elegantly allow for official dual typings on a single move, I would guess its closer to a "pseudo" second type - ie a normal type move that may do damage to ghosts, or will do regular damage to steel types.
 
why does Pangoro remind me of the subway masters, looker, and to a lesser extent professor layton + ace attorney

on the subject of Pangoro, it seems like a ursaring or beartic that went rogue and became a ninja or something... who wants to bet on it getting sucker punch, shadow sneak and trick?
 
why does Pangoro remind me of the subway masters, looker, and to a lesser extent professor layton + ace attorney

on the subject of Pangoro, it seems like a ursaring or beartic that went rogue and became a ninja or something... who wants to bet on it getting sucker punch, shadow sneak and trick?

It's less ninja and more gangster
 
oooh it looks great so far. i love it. hope we get eight legs on it so i can get some arachnid action - bonus points if it skitters around on them in a really creepy/gross fashion. spiders are fantastic. going on the in-game team if accessible enough? quite possibly. move over, gogoat!
 
If Oblivion Wing turns out to be a charging move, it also seems like it will have a semi-invulerable turn as well, similarly to Fly and Dig. If it bypasses Protect too, like Shadow Force, it could still be good. Dark has no immunities, so anything you switch in would take serious damage, perhaps with the exception of Lucario and, more prominently, Cobalion.
 
If Oblivion Wing turns out to be a charging move, it also seems like it will have a semi-invulerable turn as well, similarly to Fly and Dig. If it bypasses Protect too, like Shadow Force, it could still be good. Dark has no immunities, so anything you switch in would take serious damage, perhaps with the exception of Lucario and, more prominently, Cobalion.

Yeah except for the fact it gives them a free turn. Shadow Force might have been used on rare exceptions (Read: Ghost Arceus), but it still had its risks. If the move has say same base power and it's special (judging by the "dark beam" description) then I'd use Dark Pulse instead. However, it's also possible it has more base power ala Sky Attack. Regardless, I hope my interpretation of that description turns out to be false (regarding OW needing a charging turn, not it being a special move).
 
I think Geomancy will be special and Oblivion Wing will be physical.
I'm thinking Oorotto is going to be another ghost because GF might be trying to make up for the lack of total number of ghost pokemon in all the generations put together.
I hope with introducing these ghost types they will also introduce proper dark pokemon because dark is one of my most loved types.
Anyone have any idea about the team there going to use in X&Y?
My possible team:Fennekin,Spritzee,Skrelp or any other water type ,Gogoat or any other grass,a new electric type,maybe a fighting and dark or poison or flying or ghost.
 
<_<
While I would like to say that it's silly to think that all cartoonists write their material solely for small children, as many cartoon shows (though never the majority of them) do have content that make them viewable and relatable by parents...
Stop talking about the anime
>_>

I'm a little unnerved that there is no direct consensus on what Orotto looks like, because you can't quite tell who was/wasn't paying attention and who might be trolling, but as a force of habit, I'm inclined to put the most of my faith in the design that looks the least like anything else you've ever seen with the same design origin. Game Freak has gotten pretty good in recent generations about putting their monster designs on their own level.

Agreed.
Besides, don't forget that the syllabus in Japan is actually quite crammed. Not only they study more at school, they also are encouraged to read in libraries and they have very good selections of biology books written for small children.
They are supposed to learn extra-curricular knowledge instead of waiting for the school to teach them those, especially in topics they are interested. (for boys, usually technology or biology)
AND, most children movies in Japan have to contain morals anyway.
Even movies like Spirited Away contain deep reflections of Buddhism theory, and Ponyo was an environmental movement. Parents are supposed to explain these to their kids.
(TV anime don't have to contain morals though, it's a theatre-movie sort of thing)

No wonder they have to change so much stuff in the dub LOL.



Ok back on topic, guys.


For the Oorotto thing, I do believe that serebii is more accurate.
They are stricter over there and hence the higher quality.
 
I'm worried about how the general consensus if Oorotto is varied - we have some that look like a tree, and others that also look like trees.

Stop freaking out, guys. It's not like Game Freak will wait much longer - it seems like whenever a Pokemon design leaks this generation (not just a description like the big leak), they show off the Pokemon within a few days. At least all of the designs are fairly constant with regards to general shape and typing, so we know it's going to be a Ghost/Grass treemon with spider legs. I doubt any amazing artists are going to be able to draw perfectly from memory a Pokemon from a small blip of a trailer.
 
Or Grass Poison ! But I really like a Ghost Grass pokemon. Weak against Fire, Ice, Flying, Ghost, Dark attacks, but has Grass, Electric, Water, Ground resistances and nice Fighting and Normal immunities !
 
Calling Oorotto to be Fire/Fighting

I'm hyped for the Flipsquidbirds (They look cooool) . I'm just curious how they are going to abuse Contrary. As they seem to be more specially orientated, they don't have too many options to boost themselves, unless we are going to get special Superpower this gen. I seriosly doubt that they will get Overheat/Leaf Storm/Draco Meteor, and Psycho Boost is unlikely.
 
Keep in mind that "having an ability" does NOT mean "being able to abuse that ability in battle". It might be that Contrary ends up a burden for Inkay and Malamar.

As somebody brought up earlier (or elsewhere?) only 7% of the current Pokémon are OU, with a handful more being viable there. Sturgeon's Law seems to apply: "90% of everything is crud". I'd guess that in this generation, approximately one in ten Pokémon will be usable in OU. That means, most of the Pokémon we see will have to fight in the lower tiers, and their matchup against the OU 'mons (whichever that may be) can be summed up as "outclassed, try again next gen".
 
Keep in mind that "having an ability" does NOT mean "being able to abuse that ability in battle". It might be that Contrary ends up a burden for Inkay and Malamar.

As somebody brought up earlier (or elsewhere?) only 7% of the current Pokémon are OU, with a handful more being viable there. Sturgeon's Law seems to apply: "90% of everything is crud". I'd guess that in this generation, approximately one in ten Pokémon will be usable in OU. That means, most of the Pokémon we see will have to fight in the lower tiers, and their matchup against the OU 'mons (whichever that may be) can be summed up as "outclassed, try again next gen".
It makes people feel better to think that every single evolved pokemon shown is OU material.
 
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