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They can use a 3DS app. Simple.

Maybe not so simple
The one 3ds app we have that can interact with DS games is the Dream Radar, and that only writes to the cartridge (& only to BW2) & can see what game is in system
Actually reading and, uh, grabbing stuff from the all the ds games (or even just BW2) might be an entirely different beast

So while I think they'll find a way to make it work, either by system to system or through an app, I wouldn't be too surprised if they couldn't.
& I wouldn't be mad about it because they did, you know, actively try to make it work rather than just saying "no"
 
Well, first of all it's being closed down.
But beyond that BW2 aren't set up for that. GameSync needed to tuck in a pokemon and then wake it up
IN ADDITION, even if it could work that would be one Pokemon, possibly per day
couldn't they make a new service based on DW that allows multiple pokemons a day? just an idea
 
couldn't they make a new service based on DW that allows multiple pokemons a day? just an idea
In theory, yes, but the server would be extremely expansive and probably painful to maintain. So in practice, it would require a lot more money and manpower to keep an online trading system that stores Pokémon to be moved in between games for different systems functioning for the duration of Gen VI.
 
Even if they could (the server being expensive is probably not a Big Deal, but stability definitely would be) BW1/2 are not set up to allow for that
 
Nintendo could just release a new 3DS version with a DS Slot along with Pokemon X and Y(and make it expensive and make lots of profits as people bought it JUST to use with X and Y). That sounds nice!
 
I don't think that's likely.
having an extra slot is just not worth the price of making it.
unless they develop something like a poke walker, but that's still not cost effective.

it's even more likely to turn people away from XY
 
Nintendo could just release a new 3DS version with a DS Slot along with Pokemon X and Y(and make it expensive and make lots of profits as people bought it JUST to use with X and Y). That sounds nice!
The game is developed by GameFreak, not Nintendo. So they cannot release a new 3DS with a DS slot. GameFreak has to adapt to the existing hardware or as jynx mentioned create a Pokéwalker-like device.
 
Ever since talk about transfer methods began I've been wondering if 3DS apps can read and write from and to a DS game card.If they can some 3DS app is likely to be the solution.
If not some other(and probably more convoluted) method will have to be devised.
I'd say a web based solution is the most likely in that case.
 
If there is no way for the DS carts to communicate with the 3DS carts, one would have to make a system able to communicate with both. That's a given.

I guess some sort of 3DS app could read Pokémon data taken from the Gen. V games, and generate the same content in 3DS language, then insert it to X and Y. In concept, it shouldn't be very hard. However, both the data extraction from Gen. V and its insertion to X and Y might be problematic. I hope (and think!) they will manage it somehow.
 
Fletchling is another pokemon that loses its normal typing as it evolves, so having done it once already, GF could just as easily do it with Helioptile and/or Litleo. And I think part of the reason people are almost expecting these two to change their normal typing is because the normal type doesn't have any necessarily defining moves. More pokemon learn normal type moves than, using the skrelp example, poision type moves. Again with skrelp, seeing him using sludge bomb gives us support that his poision typing is here to stay; the normal typings on these other two pokes are less dominant, and can therefore provide us with hope for their type to change.


That's a valid reasoning, the problem with it is that if normal is not their dominant typing, then why is it listed first?
 
If there is no way for the DS carts to communicate with the 3DS carts, one would have to make a system able to communicate with both. That's a given.

I guess some sort of 3DS app could read Pokémon data taken from the Gen. V games, and generate the same content in 3DS language, then insert it to X and Y. In concept, it shouldn't be very hard. However, both the data extraction from Gen. V and its insertion to X and Y might be problematic. I hope (and think!) they will manage it somehow.

Difficulty of data conversion between the DS and 3DS version depends on how similar they are. But even if the 3DS games use a wholly new data structure for Pokémon, the conversion should still be trivial.
Inserting and removing in both versions is also easy given Game Freak would know how the save files are built and how they are encrypted down to the most minute detail.

A web based system could be interesting because the server could do a whole lot of checks on whatever Pokémon it receives from an older game to check for legitimacy. This is something a 3DS app couldn't do to the same extent.
 
With the possibility of players purchasing both X and Y digitally on the same 3DS, I'm hoping they will release some sort of Pokemon Box-esque 3DS app that will allow simultaneous storage (and therefore trading) of Pokemon from multiple game saves. As we have already seem with Dream Radar, it is possible for 3DS apps to communicate with DS games, so this app might also serve as a means of transferring Pokemon between generations.
 
To be honest, I would like a fresh start for Gen VI, without all the TM / move learnt in all old generations. I want every Pokemon to be available in X/Y and with a lot of move tutor ...
 
Is trading not possible from Dsi to 3DS?? I was really hoping it was because I want to trade over my Black team once I get a 3DS as i can't bear to restart over my team, my Darkrai, my Victini and other Mystery Gift Pokemon! I reckon they will make an app to store them and i like what Digby said about having a storage box app so you can trade from one game to the other. Also i like the idea someone else posted of a rock-flying-fighting trio as in the dark-psychic-fighting trio, there was an in balance since dark is immune to psychic whereas having the former trio will mean 3 balanced starters, all to represent France's beauty theme with the symmetry!
 
To be honest, I would like a fresh start for Gen VI, without all the TM / move learnt in all old generations. I want every Pokemon to be available in X/Y and with a lot of move tutor ...

Ugh, I would hate to be forced into a fresh start. I got over 50 legit Shinies I take pride in, not to mention lots of EV trained Pokémon, and in-game teams from various games, all of whom I feel a close bond with (don't start with all that "oh they're just pixels" stuff, either). Hell, some of my Pokémon are over 10 years old by now!
 
To be honest, I would like a fresh start for Gen VI, without all the TM / move learnt in all old generations. I want every Pokemon to be available in X/Y and with a lot of move tutor ...

I also agree. Although they did say in e3 that they are trying to see if it can be ported. But personally, I want a fresh start. I mean with wonder trade, and the ability to look for pokemon NOT registered in your dex via GTS really expands the availability of all 'mons so you don't really need to port. I believe that breeding/iv will have significant changes in mechanics. And the role of pokemon amie in breeding/ivs/battle mechanics. But more importantly, there will be a boat load of exclusive and useful new egg moves/abilities for all the old gen pokemon in x and y, which can never be learned if ported from the ds. Some of those egg moves/abilities could be a staple on movesets, so much that its useless without it. Like what if Sneasel gets technician as an extra ability in x and y, any non technician weavile will be useless. I want that extra STAB on my ice shard and pursuit if you don't mind. In BW/BW2 they introduced multiscale Dragonite. I had a shiny perfect ivs extremespeed dragonite in HGSS. No matter how perfect ivs/stats/moves that HGSS dragonite had, it will never surpass any dragonite with multiscale...so I see no point in porting and would rather breed one with multiscale in BW/BW2.

I do want a boatload of TMs and Movetutors all of which can be used infinitely or purchased without too much difficulty. I would dream of 200 TMs and 100 moves through movetutor...but I don't think that will happen.
 
I was kind of hoping Skrelp might evolve into a Poison/Dragon type. It could be a hell of a defensive typing, but I feel like the odds decreased when they identified Clauncher as it's version counterpart.
 
I don't want a fresh start because that inevitably means having to wait years for various Pokemon to be released, either through spin-offs, give aways, or future main games

Also because I love bringing along all my old teams, to see how they do in a new environment but mostly point 1.
 
Something tells me the sword with No Guard isn't going to be incredibly bulky

nor does Noirvern, the somewhat frail looking skinny dragon

Kitsunoh isn't that bulky overall (80 / 85 / 80, a little less than Golurk physically) but the type defense it has makes up for a lot. Granted it isn't used like a wall, but its WispyKit set has been very effective, and if Honedge gets Will-O-Wisp, it will have a 100% Burn move.

I'm also not going to worry too much about Fairies being weak. It'll depend on the full chart, but lets just say the very fact Azumarill can use physical Water / Fairy Dual STAB means you can slay Dragons without the unfortunately implication of Water / Ice coverage on Azumarill being walled by other Water-types.

If Draining Kiss is like Drain Punch for Fairies, then Azu is going to be a pain to deal with.
 
Kitsunoh isn't that bulky overall (80 / 85 / 80, a little less than Golurk physically) but the type defense it has makes up for a lot. Granted it isn't used like a wall, but its WispyKit set has been very effective, and if Honedge gets Will-O-Wisp, it will have a 100% Burn move.
But 85/80/80 is relatively good when compared to Honedge's possible lackluster HP and 60-80 defenses (speculating here of course). Again, like R_N said the sword with No Guard somehow tells me it's not gonna have good defenses, or even average ones. I could be wrong (and I sure hope so). But, the type may be useful for switch ins and set up kinda like how the Steel type helps Lucario.

I'm also not going to worry too much about Fairies being weak. It'll depend on the full chart, but lets just say the very fact Azumarill can use physical Water / Fairy Dual STAB means you can slay Dragons without the unfortunately implication of Water / Ice coverage on Azumarill being walled by other Water-types.

[If Draining Kiss is like Drain Punch for Fairies, then Azu is going to be a pain to deal with.
Assuming it's physical in the first place (it could be a special move that makes contact for all we know). Its base power is 60 (according to the rumors anyway) which is weaker than Drain Punch.
 
But 85/80/80 is relatively good when compared to Honedge's possibly lackluster HP and 60-80 defenses (speculating here of course). Again, like R_N said the sword with No Guard somehow tells me it's not gonna have good defenses, or even average ones. I could be wrong (and I sure hope so). But, the type may be useful for switch ins and set up kinda like how the Steel type helps Lucario.


Assuming it's physical in the first place (it could be a special move that makes contact for all we know). Its base power is 60 (according to the rumors anyway) which is weaker than Drain Punch.

EDIT: Double post by accident. How do you delete here?
 
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