Pokémon XY General Discussion

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I really hope that the TMs for Sludge Bomb/Poison Jab/Flash Cannon become retroactively compatible with a ton more Pokemon in XY that didn't get them in BW2. A la Ninetails and Energy Ball. There are a lot of Pokemon (Zoroark, Lati@s, etc) that need these moves now and don't get them, and making those moves more widespread will make Fairies less overpowered.
 
Emboar gets a decent amount of fighting moves. Also gyarados is a flying type yes but think of how many powerful offensive flying type moves their are. Then think how many require A. Wings or B. A beak both of when gyarados has neither.



Chimchar gets a few fighting moves actually not via leveling but tms and also breeding.
Also monferno does as well

Also, charmander doesn't get any flying moves because yet again it has no wings nor a beak.lol
Emboar Naturally learns two fighting moves, one of which you need heart scales to access. Hammer Arm (requires Heart Scale, as it is start move) and arm thrust. the others are tm's or move tutors
 
I don't get this talk about Chespin. Cacnea, Corphish, Seedot and Pupitar surely didn't look like they'd evolve into Dark-type pokémon. The starters' movepools also don't necessarily give any clues to their final typing, or else Tepig would become Fire/Rock.

Besides, frankly, be it Grass/Fighting or Grass/Dark, Chespin's screwed either way. Lol fairies
 
I don't get this talk about Chespin. Cacnea, Corphish, Seedot and Pupitar surely didn't look like they'd evolve into Dark-type pokémon. The starters' movepools also don't necessarily give any clues to their final typing, or else Tepig would become Fire/Rock.

Besides, frankly, be it Grass/Fighting or Grass/Dark, Chespin's screwed either way. Lol fairies
Let's get real here

Chespin was screwed the moment it became apparent it was another Defensive Grass Type Starter
I will always love you, bowling ball pinata knight, but alas
 
I'm aware but it still learns those moves does it not?


Also Mario with lasers has the best post ever
I'm confused what the argument even is here anymore. That Chespin can't become Grass/Dark "because it doesn't learn any dark moves"? You yourself admit that Chimchar doesn't get any Fighting moves via level-up. How do you know that Chespin doesn't? How do you know that he doesn't get any via breeding or TMs?
 
I'm confused what the argument even is here anymore. That Chespin can't become Grass/Dark "because it doesn't learn any dark moves"? You yourself admit that Chimchar doesn't get any Fighting moves via level-up. How do you know that Chespin doesn't? How do you know that he doesn't get any via breeding or TMs?
I never argued that it wasnt.lol I was just providing a counter argument to the things that I quoted. Where do you see stated that said hey this thing isn't grass/dark?
However, looking at the little guy he doesn't seems like a general dark type design. You can generally look at dark types and say yeah that's a dark type solely based on their design. Absol, scrafty, sharpedo, houndoom, tyranitar, umbreon, and weavile all look the part. Most dark types look serious, focused, or intimidating. This thing looks far far to jolly and carefree to be a dark type (based on game freaks general designs). Who knows though.
 
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Looks like I don't have a sense of humor lol.

Spritzee is the creepy, pink head thing, right? I'm guessing Fairy/Dark or Fairy/Ghost

My best guess on spritzee is either Fairy/Ghost or Fairy Poison, because the "beak" on spritzee is actually a death mask, which doctors used to use to try and avoid catching diseases from patients.
 
It should be obvious, but just because amazon *says* it shipped, doesn't mean it actually did.

iirc, amazon did the same thing a few weeks ago with the PS4
 
My best guess on spritzee is either Fairy/Ghost or Fairy Poison, because the "beak" on spritzee is actually a death mask, which doctors used to use to try and avoid catching diseases from patients.
In addition, it learns Aromatherapy. Plague doctors actually used crushed up petals from posies to lessen the awful stench that was present everywhere due to the decaying bodies and presumably the puss from the sores that were popped didn't exactly smell great. Aromatherapy also works in other ways,as the obvious connotation that the doctor heals [or tries to, as plague doctors had high mortality rates for obvious reasons]

The changed form of the 'Ring around the Rosie' [or whatever you call it] nursery rhyme says Husha instead of ashes, and its Japanese name is Shushup, which is very similar to Husha. That nursery rhyme is all about the Black Plague, if you were unaware - a pocket full of posies? The commoners used the flowers for the same reason the doctors did. Ashes, ashes, we all fall down - does that require explanation?

Can't think of why it'd be faerie, though. Maybe just for a boost in the perfume motif.

Either way, Spritzee's flavour is deliciously intriguing and dark, and I truly hope its evolved form does it justice.

E: Totally undermines the srs bsns, but I figured it might be worthy of posting - it being a bird/having really strange proportions might just also have something to do with a popular treatment for the plague being to cut a chicken in half and then rub its ass on the buboes, iirc.

Or it could just be because everything OmG ADORABL!!11*~*~* must be all head and no body whatsoever. I'unno.
 
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It should be obvious, but just because amazon *says* it shipped, doesn't mean it actually did.

iirc, amazon did the same thing a few weeks ago with the PS4
Are these games even stocked and ready to ship yet? Game Freak still has a month to fine-tune them, I don't imagine they're saying "nah, they're ready" almost 30 days before release.

Humph...

Topic Change: discuss the new Poison type move Belch
That's still a rumor at this point. Was that part of the Pokebeach batch?
 
Are these games even stocked and ready to ship yet? Game Freak still has a month to fine-tune them, I don't imagine they're saying "nah, they're ready" almost 30 days before release.


That's still a rumor at this point. Was that part of the Pokebeach batch?

Well, imagine the reaction of the fanbase if they release early, but I guess R N is right.

A new move, Belch, is a Poison-type attack that has a base power of 120. The user must consume a held Berry to perform it. (Yes, it's apart of the Pokebeach Rumors)

Also, Do you guys believe you will get your rivals fully-evolved starter? (Pokebeach)

on the side note, why did the leaker choose Pokebeach? Why not Serebii?
 
Topic Change: discuss the new Poison type move Belch
A new move, Belch, is a Poison-type attack that has a base power of 120. The user must consume a held Berry to perform it. (Yes, it's apart of the Pokebeach Rumors)

Also, Do you guys believe you will get your rivals fully-evolved starter? (Pokebeach)?
This thread is for discussing CONFIRMED aspects of the game. Join #orangeislands on IRC for speculation.
 

Aren't the rumors confirmed?

Thank you R N, didn't want to get on TheMantyke's bad side
 
^ Not to mention that Serebii probably gets a lot of bullshit rumours in general, not just spam. He prides himself on his accuracy and not raising false flags, so it makes total sense that he wouldn't want to post just any random rumour he receives. Serebii's one of the most reliable Pokemon sites out there, after all.
 
Oh i see

Just found something....surprising about Meowstic's eyes
http://www.pokemonxy.com/_ui/img/_en/screenshots/sept_p14_08_ygezp.jpg
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Are these games even stocked and ready to ship yet? Game Freak still has a month to fine-tune them, I don't imagine they're saying "nah, they're ready" almost 30 days before release.
Chances are the games have "gone gold" and are ready to go into physical production. I think, anyway, my knowledge of game production is iffy at best.

Anyway, even if not, they would more have like...a week or two of "fine tuning" left tops. They still have to actually make the things and get ready to send them to retailers, after all
 
Oh right by the way, the only new footage today was of Mewtwo turning into Mega Mewtwo X and ohko'ing Masuda's Zoroark with what I assume was Giga Impact

Sorry to whoever thought the kick animation was exclusive to Hi Jump Kick but no.
 
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