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Azumarill says hi!
Well, Azumarill was a good Poke in BW1 thanks to rain + aqua jet essentially. Right now it's pretty dependent of how weather will work. And it already suffered with the power creep in BW2, which is something that will probably be worse with XY...
Mawille is actually a Poke I've always wanted to see higher despite knowing it had NU all over it. But having to switch in to acquire that beastly typing sucks because Mawille's main typing was nerfed and Mawille has no place in OU before MegaEvolving so will it really be worth all the trouble? (I'm hoping I'm wrong on this one xD)
Lets not forget megamawile who will mostly likely be ou for several reasons. Huge power from the mega evo, steel/fairy typing will give it the following immunities (dragon and poison) and resists (ice, grass, bug, flying, rock, normal and psychic). Unlike the rest of the fairies it will be neutral to steel and immune to poison. The fairy typing got rid of that pesky fighting weakness leaving two weakness of ground and fire. Imagine intimidate mawile comes in and then tramsforms doubling its attack. With all the resists and immunities mawile is going to become a great pivot
Mawile was re-typed to Steel/Fairy too, so MEvolution isn't needed, which is an Arceus-send.
EDIT: It also retains Intimidate on the first switch for what that's worth.
Intimidate with added fairy typing really seems good to me.
But spikes still post a problem, if minor.
Lol I somehow missed the retyping part but ok. But 50/85/55 is way too bad in OU, even if Intimidate does help on the physical side. But on the special side... Let's pray for greater defenses or speed boost for MegaMawille
Of course, but two out of three is still really good.
According to the official site, MegaMawile's defenses will increase. It's still slow as balls, but it does get Sucker Punch and possibly that new move that's apparently a priority Fairy move (can't remember the name atm).
EDIT: thanks Seth Vilo
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Yeah but have we seen any MegaPoke stats so far? Because if it's anything like +20 boost in just defenses (no hp) it's still too weak to any special attack. Oh well, only a few weeks to find out.
Also, why did they have to give that Ice Dino such a poor typing combo... Its new attack seems pretty cool but why Rock/Ice?
Because they wanted it to be a fossil.
Lol that was more of a rant and not a real question. But that attack deserved a better typing.
That'd be "Baby-Doll Eyes". We don't know for sure if it gets that move though, or even if it's physical. Unless there's a reallllllly good reason otherwise, Huge Power abusing is a must on Mega Mawile, especially cause if it's SpA doesn't change, base 55 is not even remotely threatening. Draining Kiss might be physical cause a kiss is contact, but I highly doubt giving sad eyes to an opponent to damage them will be physical...
Oh, don't mind me enjoying discussion of why one of my favorite mons is now very cool.
So exactly how much do old pokemon really get from the fairy typing gain? Azumaril and Gardevoir are the other big deal fairy gainers we've heard of so far. Mr. Bubble pants is already fairly usable but what of Gardevoir?
Gardevoir loses bug and dark weakness in exchange for poison and steel. At this point it is still yet to be seen how prevalent poison and steel will be offensively. It also has a 4x fighting resists, as well as dragon immunity. The stats are the same though, with excellent special attack and mediocre defenses and speed. That's the part that really concerns me. If Gardevoir doesn't get a new ability or mega, those stats may still hold it back from really doing anything that it wants to.
So exactly how much do old pokemon really get from the fairy typing gain? Azumaril and Gardevoir are the other big deal fairy gainers we've heard of so far. Mr. Bubble pants is already fairly usable but what of Gardevoir?
Gardevoir loses bug and dark weakness in exchange for poison and steel. At this point it is still yet to be seen how prevalent poison and steel will be offensively. It also has a 4x fighting resists, as well as dragon immunity. The stats are the same though, with excellent special attack and mediocre defenses and speed. That's the part that really concerns me. If Gardevoir doesn't get a new ability or mega, those stats may still hold it back from really doing anything that it wants to.
Cant argue with that lol
Well, it is not like OU is the only tier in existence. Before Jynx dropped, Gardevoir was pretty good in NU. I believe the fairy typing will give it a niche over Jynx and make it relevant in NU again, but yeah, i cant see it doing much in OU.
On a side note, i was checking the PokemonXY site and found this.
I have no idea whos the woman in white and she didnt appear at all when i searched. Do we know whats her role in the game? It seems safe to assume she is the leader of Team Flare though.
I keep forgetting I can play other tiers. My X and Y resolution is to learn to play OU, AND doubles, AND whatever tier has Flygon in it.
You didn't search hard enoughCant argue with that lol
Well, it is not like OU is the only tier in existence. Before Jynx dropped, Gardevoir was pretty good in NU. I believe the fairy typing will give it a niche over Jynx and make it relevant in NU again, but yeah, i cant see it doing much in OU.
On a side note, i was checking the PokemonXY site and found this.
I have no idea whos the woman in white and she didnt appear at all when i searched. Do we know whats her role in the game? It seems safe to assume she is the leader of Team Flare though.
http://www.pokemonxy.com/en-us/characters/friends/
Everyone seems to forget that it gets access to Foul Play. With 5th gen mechanics, using Foul Play would apply the Huge Power boost to the opponent's attack stat. So using Foul Play against say... 252 attack Adamant Groudon, Foul Play would be backed by 876 attack.
Edit: Throw in Swords Dance and Sucker Punch... does Swords Dance affect Foul Play? I forget.
Gallade and Gardevoir have equal speed
Oooooh I didn't forget that little gem. Hopefully the mechanics stay the same in Gen VI and it's still boosted. It's just that M-Mawile will probably be cramped for moves, as I mentioned here, and when that evolution takes place is a huge factor for Mawile going either Foul Play or Sucker Punch for its Dark-type move of choice. Whatever Dark move it chooses plus if it gets a good physical Fairy-type move is the near-perfect coverage Mawile itself solely resists for now, while barely having room for utility moves like Stealth Rock or Pain Split. I'm anxious to see when and how Mega Evolution takes place so we know what moves to run on this, but Foul Play (provided it'll still be boosted by Huge Power this generation, which should be tested ASAP!!!!) looks like a butt-kicking keeper.
Hmmm...
Physical Fairy Move
Foul Play/Sucker Punch
Ironhead
Thunderpunch/Swords Dance/Protect/New Physical ground move?
That is rather fearsome, I should say.
EDIT: Parting Remark (or whatever it's called) may also be helpful here. Dropping an offensive stat, and then getting the intimidate drop could allow Mawile more chances to enter.
Physical Fairy Move
Foul Play/Sucker Punch
Ironhead
Thunderpunch/Swords Dance/Protect/New Physical ground move?
That is rather fearsome, I should say.
EDIT: Parting Remark (or whatever it's called) may also be helpful here. Dropping an offensive stat, and then getting the intimidate drop could allow Mawile more chances to enter.
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Oh no, don't get me wrong, I fully agree.
Just a thought, but since the freeze dry battle pics depict a brown Tyrantrum, is it possible that the red sugimori art is his shiny form?
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