Pokémon XY General Discussion

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I even forgot about Mold Breaker. Its an decent ability and definitely forgettable.... Unless they change the mechanic and pokemon not affected by moves are now affected.
I think Mold Breaker has a lot of potential on a Pokemon that can really make use of it. Imagine a powerful fire-type sweeper with Mold Breaker hitting Heatran for neutral with STAB fire moves. It's just that the Pokemon that have gotten Mold Breaker in the past haven't been able to make the best use of it.

Maybe Mega Ampharos can make better use of it to hit Volt Absorb/Lightningrod Pokemon like Thundurus-T.
 
I think Mold Breaker has a lot of potential on a Pokemon that can really make use of it. Imagine a powerful fire-type sweeper with Mold Breaker hitting Heatran for neutral with STAB fire moves. It's just that the Pokemon that have gotten Mold Breaker in the past haven't been able to make the best use of it.

Maybe Mega Ampharos can make better use of it to hit Volt Absorb/Lightningrod Pokemon like Thundurus-T.
You mean Reshiram? Mold Breaker Ampharos will most likely be able to OHKO Skarmory through Sturdy, so there's that. Especially in-game, Mold Breaker's best use is breaking through sturdy, IMO.
 
What I don't get about the battle is:
As Mega-Amphy evolved, it moved after Gogoat in TR. "Turn Order: Slowbro-Gogoat-Ampharos-Blaziken" Then...
As Slowbro froze Gogoat, it consumed a berry, but did not attack before Ampharos. "Turn Order: Slowbro-Shedinja-Ampharos-Gogoat"
It may have missed an attack, but I can't be sure. Confirm pls?
 
You mean Reshiram? Mold Breaker Ampharos will most likely be able to OHKO Skarmory through Sturdy, so there's that. Especially in-game, Mold Breaker's best use is breaking through sturdy, IMO.
Whoops, forgot about Reshiram, I don't play Ubers. :P And yeah I've seen some people using Mold Breaker Basculin in NU to counter Sturdy hazard leads.

I wouldn't be surprised if there were new abilities that Mold Breaker could counter, too. Furfrou's anti-contact ability comes to mind. Abilities have been more and more important each gen and it looks so far like that trend will continue.
 
Gogoat used a grass attack (Vine/Power Whip?) on Amphy immediately after eating the berry. You must've just missed it.

Actually, that was Shedinja (ヌケニン) using the attack, and it was X-Scissor (シザークロス). I just put the kana there so you can look at the combat scroll and verify.

My guess is that being frozen made Gogoat lose its turn.
 
You mean Reshiram? Mold Breaker Ampharos will most likely be able to OHKO Skarmory through Sturdy, so there's that. Especially in-game, Mold Breaker's best use is breaking through sturdy, IMO.
Beating sturdy, Flash fire, volt absorb, levitate, multiscale, and various other things
 
I swear the people on Smash have some talent. They could get juiced up over a piece of colored cardboard for ten yen.

Still, though, that was actually one of the few times I got kinda excited along with them.

Mega Blaziken looks really good in motion, and Thunder looks good for the first time ever IMO. Though I don't remember how it looked in Colo/XD and never had PBR.
 
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Is it possible to calculate GoGoats Special Defense? maybe even Mega-Amphy's Special Attack?
I would assume not. We weren't given actual numerical values for Gogoat's HP, meaning we would have to try to base it off of a rough estimate for both Amphy's special attack and his special defense. So, I guess yes, we could, but it would be both very broad (like a range) and based off assumptions.
 
Okay, so

Apparently, some Italian guys got their hands on the games and posted a couple photos of them, along with some info. There were at least two different people posting pictures around the internet and Pokébeach, so it's likely some of those are real.

DO NOT POST THEM HERE!!! (oh wow I missed using this)

This will not be the place for any eleventh-hour leaks, as many people don't want any spoilers. There will be a special thread for the spoilers if the OI Staff finds anything to be undoubtedly true, and people will be more than allowed to discuss anything pertaining those leaks THERE. Not here. There.

Stellar may have said this a hundred times already, but: whoever breaks this single rule will get an infraction before they can even say "no es fake".
 
Fairies by their nature are gentle creatures, so the fairy typing is all about calmness. Fairy energy subdues and calms the types that are focused on combat and aggression above all else. This is why they're good against the honor-combat-oriented fighting types, the combat-pragmatism-based dark types, and dragons, which as a type is defined by moves like Outrage. All of these types are defined by aggression, offense, and combat, which is why fairies can so easily subdue them. The bug resist is because bugs are simple-minded creatures, and fairies are just so much grander in the scheme of things.

However, these fairies that are focused on tranquility and serenity are helpless against types that are physically destructive, like fire. The fairy can calm down the raging dragon but it cannot stop a fire so easily. For the same reason, they're completely helpless against disease; they can calm the spirit but cannot heal the body. Fairies are themselves especially susceptible to poison. While they're strong enough in spirit to ward off the "impure thoughts" from a dark pulse, this mental immune system comes at the cost of their actual immune system.
Okay this has been bothering me since Fairy as a type was first revealed. I'd like to point out that fairies are weak to Steel because Iron is a anathema to faeries. As is poison, for instance if a Dryad were to have it's tree poisoned it would be poisoned as well. hence why that is effective against it's type. It makes perfect sense.

As for being immune to Dragon...well take the Brownie for instance. They are small and generally cute looking but Brownies while generally helpful and adorable...can tear a grown man apart.

The Fairy type are immune to Dragons mainly for gameplay reasons but when you consider most fairies are much stronger then they appear to be it starts to make more sense. The Coliunn Gun Cheann (Headless Trunk) Was an enormous creature with no head who haunted the Macdonald lands. Travelers would often be found left mutilated by the creature. I can very much see that standing up to any dragon. Again, it's more a gameplay mechanic that doesn't really need to much thought behind it but if you wanted to, that would be the reason why.


I'd also like to clear up this misconception that faeries are all tranquil, pretty, or beautiful. Quite honestly if you've read anything about them. You'd never ever believe that their was any fairy that wasn't scary as shit. In legends and literature, Fairies, while they can be very beautiful are just as often evil if not more commonly, horrifying or incredibly disturbing.

Some like in Irish Folklore, specifically the Seelie Court are just indifferent, they like to play tricks and are sometimes even helpful. While the Unseelie court simply takes pleasure in causing as much pain and suffering in human's as they possibly can. And I don't mean just give you a cold. I mean torture you to death while you watch an ugly as sin creature that has no name (Traditionally because it's so horrifying and ugly that their are no words to describe how grotesque it is) slowly peel the flesh from your child's body.

Nintendo has so far, chosen the more modern Fairies are beautiful approach (Which by the way, originates from the Victorian Era) but that doesn't mean most faeries are like that.

For instance:

Anthropophagi
He's specially adapted to eating human flesh, since he doesn't have a head, and so has no eyes or ears to be swayed by cries from his victims. He has a gigantic mouth in the middle of his chest. It makes for easy passage to his stomach, I guess. He also lacks a nose, which is said to help him choke down human flesh without gagging.


Red Cap
Called a Red Cap because his hat is dyed red from human blood. He goes around decapitating people and their is said to be no escape from him.


I hope Nintendo includes the other side instead of just the cute ones.
 
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That Thunder looks fantastic ~o~

So now that we know that Mega evolution does indeed have priority in some form, now the question is: How much? +1? +2?

Great, one question answered, another brought up, good job GF
 
Okay this has been bothering me since Fairy as a type was first revealed. I'd like to point out that fairies are weak to Steel because Iron is a anathema to faeries. As is poison, for instance if a Dryad were to have it's tree poisoned it would be poisoned as well. hence why that is effective against it's type. It makes perfect sense.

As for being immune to Dragon...well take the Brownie for instance. They are small and generally cute looking but Brownies while generally helpful and adorable...can tear a grown man apart.

The Fairy type are immune to Dragons mainly for gameplay reasons but when you consider most fairies are much stronger then they appear to be it starts to make more sense. The Coliunn Gun Cheann (Headless Trunk) Was an enormous creature with no head who haunted the Macdonald lands. Travelers would often be found left mutilated by the creature. I can very much see that standing up to any dragon. Again, it's more a gameplay mechanic that doesn't really need to much thought behind it but if you wanted to, that would be the reason why.


I'd also like to clear up this misconception that faeries are all tranquil, pretty, or beautiful. Quite honestly if you've read anything about them. You'd never ever believe that their was any fairy that wasn't scary as shit. In legends and literature, Fairies, while they can be very beautiful are just as often evil if not more commonly, horrifying or incredibly disturbing.

Some like in Irish Folklore, specifically the Seelie Court are just indifferent, they like to play tricks and are sometimes even helpful. While the Unseelie court simply takes pleasure in causing as much pain and suffering in human's as they possibly can. And I don't mean just give you a cold. I mean torture you to death while you watch an ugly as sin creature that has no name (Traditionally because it's so horrifying and ugly that their are no words to describe how grotesque it is) slowly peel the flesh from your child's body.

Nintendo has so far, chosen the more modern Fairies are beautiful approach (Which by the way, originates from the Victorian Era) but that doesn't mean most faeries are like that.

For instance:

Anthropophagi
He's specially adapted to eating human flesh, since he doesn't have a head, and so has no eyes or ears to be swayed by cries from his victims. He has a gigantic mouth in the middle of his chest. It makes for easy passage to his stomach, I guess. He also lacks a nose, which is said to help him choke down human flesh without gagging.


Red Cap
Called a Red Cap because his hat is dyed red from human blood. He goes around decapitating people and their is said to be no escape from him.


I hope Nintendo includes the other side instead of just the cute ones.




I'm really glad that I'm not the only one who knows fay-folklore. This is why I said a few pages back that things like Slenderman, the Chubacabra, and Big Foot are all by definition faeries.

Speaking of Big Foot, I'm really hoping that Dunsparce gets the Fairy Type. Not for competitive reasons, but because Dunsparce is based off of a Japanese mythological creature that is roughly similar in origin to Big Foot. (http://bulbanews.bulbagarden.net/wiki/On_the_Origin_of_Species:_Dunsparce)

Both the Tsuchinoko (the creature Dunsparce is based on) and Big Foot are mythical creatures that many claim to be real. There have been several 'sightings' of these creatures and they have become urban legends in their respective countries. Both of them are by definition--a metaphysical, supernatural, or preternatural being found in legends--fairies.
 
Oh, I'm sure many people know about faes and whatnot. The issue is that, aside from Xerneas, every Fairy-type revealed until now could be considered "cute" to a degree. Hell, why is Marill even a fairy, to begin with.


(status: praying to the gods both Cresselia and Darkrai will become Fairies)
 
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Oh, I'm sure many people know about faes and whatnot. The issue is that, aside from Xerneas, every Fairy-type revealed until now could be considered "cute" to a degree. Hell, why is Marill even a fairy, to begin with.

(status: praying to the gods both Cresselia and Darkrai will becomes Fairies)

A Dark/Fairy would be awesome though I'm suddenly picturing a Maleficent Pokemon.
 
Oh, I'm sure many people know about faes and whatnot. The issue is that, aside from Xerneas, every Fairy-type revealed until now could be considered "cute" to a degree. Hell, why is Marill even a fairy, to begin with.


(status: praying to the gods both Cresselia and Darkrai will becomes Fairies)

In Marrill's original game appearance, it was extremely rare encounter rate, and also located in a very specific, off-the-beaten-path area to the point of nearly being an in-world cryptid. Since it wasn't powerful, I knew a lot of people who never bothered to go to the trouble of catching it themselves, preferring to get an egg from me if they wanted the Dex completion. Given that it's also cute, I'd say that that helps cement its status as Fairy-type.
 
In Marrill's original game appearance, it was extremely rare encounter rate, and also located in a very specific, off-the-beaten-path area to the point of nearly being an in-world cryptid. Since it wasn't powerful, I knew a lot of people who never bothered to go to the trouble of catching it themselves, preferring to get an egg from me if they wanted the Dex completion. Given that it's also cute, I'd say that that helps cement its status as Fairy-type.
You mean like every water surface in Mount Mortar.
 
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