Other Viable Megas

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Coverage has long been a big issue for Heracross, as Bug+Fighting have terrible synergy, even worse now with Fairies around. Rock Blast and Bullet Seed are a huge help in the coverage department.
 
One thing that people should keep in mind with MegaGengar is that shadow tag isn't on when he switches in for the first time. If you bring in Gengar to revenge kill, they can switch out while the megaevolve + attack is issued. The shadow tag switch in works great after you evolve him and switch him out.
 
Adonzo said:
Coverage has long been a big issue for Heracross, as Bug+Fighting have terrible synergy, even worse now with Fairies around. Rock Blast and Bullet Seed are a huge help in the coverage department.
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It's always had stone edge.

The only reason to use Mega heracross is if you wanna make it a tank with 252 hp and some bulk and attack. Even then, its only meh.
 
vileguy said:
One thing that people should keep in mind with MegaGengar is that shadow tag isn't on when he switches in for the first time. If you bring in Gengar to revenge kill, they can switch out while the megaevolve + attack is issued. The shadow tag switch in works great after you evolve him and switch him out.
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eh, true, but it's not like gengar is even near shitty normally. with the buff to ghost [steel no longer resists] and poison [super-effective against a powerful new type that is stopping another powerful type from running rampant], along with the still-great 110 base speed and 130 special attack, in addition to levitate still being a good ability [and being able to play mind games with it], i wouldn't really say this is much of a hit against gengar.
 
I could see mega hera working with sticky web support. It's easy to say that choice band outdamages and whatever, but unless your pivoting out (like banded scizor u-turn) it is definitely worth being able to switch up moves and be, I don't know, more than 85% weaker or so. It has enough speed to outpace base 70s, which is a plus, and with t-wave support, I could see it working very well. Of course, this would only be in the lower tiers, as hera is NOT worth your mega slot in OU and above.
 
Do we know if mega evolutions happen before or after switches? If a gengar switches in and then megaevolves, can it stop a switch out? If they can, that kind of ruins the trapper aspect.
 
Mega Evolutions occur when the mon in question would normally move, which means switching takes priority (unless you are mega evolving using pursuit?)
 
Tested Mega Venusaur today, and gotta say, its one of the most absurd thing I have ever tried

Venusaur @ V-ite
252 HP/252 Sp.A/6 Whatever
Sludge Bomb
Giga Drain
HP Fire
Sleep Powder

Quite a nice pivot. Attack anything, take hits and shit. HP Fire is for Nats and friends. Sleep Powder allow it to handle troublesome pokemon. The only problem I saw(which, frankly speaking is pretty huge) is the fact that it gets cockblocked by Gengar, although I don't really mind as long as Venusaur can break its Sub. Okay, that, and Dragon types
 
Its hard to pivot when switching in, Venasaur still has weaker defenses and doesn't have Thick Fat yet. For example, Mega Mawile is going to be an excellent Pivot on paper, but Pre-Mega Mawile is a god-awful pivot. If you don't predict a poison / dragon attack, Mawile takes a ton of damage before the evolution.

I'm thinking that the best Megas will be used as a better Life Orb. The Mega mechanics do not favor a pivot.
 
Switching in Venusaur is not that hard imo, but to each their own

I agree that "better LO" is a better usage of Mega though
 
Dragontamer said:
Its hard to pivot when switching in, Venasaur still has weaker defenses and doesn't have Thick Fat yet. For example, Mega Mawile is going to be an excellent Pivot on paper, but Pre-Mega Mawile is a god-awful pivot. If you don't predict a poison / dragon attack, Mawile takes a ton of damage before the evolution.

I'm thinking that the best Megas will be used as a better Life Orb. The Mega mechanics do not favor a pivot.
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intimidate with somewhat passable defenses and an excellent typing helps mawile though.
 
SlaXer said:
How can Banette be a hard counter if it gets ravaged by Aegislash ghost stab? Bannete can't switch at all into Aegislash without risking eating a stab shadow sneak coming from a 150 base attack.
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That's why he said "depending on if aegislash becomes popular". Because if it IS, he'll be less viable.

The answer is simply don't switch in to the sword. And on the flipside if Aegis switches in he'll get burned and then GG for Aegislash now that it's attack is cut. Unless its the special variant!
 
Sorry to switch to Ubers here, but Mega Mewtwo Y is going to throw Darkrai around so easily. Insomnia + Super High Sp. Atk to toss around opponents will shred Darkrai in seconds.
 
Eventei said:
Sorry to switch to Ubers here, but Mega Mewtwo Y is going to throw Darkrai around so easily. Insomnia + Super High Sp. Atk to toss around opponents will shred Darkrai in seconds.
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Not like mewtwo will ever want to switch into darkrai in the first place....... And mewtwo already beats darkrai 1v1 so I don't see your point
 
Arch said:
Sure, ground gives him some problems, but that's generally how it goes for electric types. It's important to note ground types generally aren't the bulkiest sp.defenders, and Ampharos does come equipped with STAB Draco Meteor and a great 165 sp.atk, so this can make them weary of switching in. He also has mold breaker t.wave and toxic, so fairies switching in won't necessarily get a free switch. Good fairies are few and far between, and none of them resist STAB Thunder / Thunderbolt. It might not seem like Ampharos has much, but he has a lot more utility to offer than most think.
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It does learn draco meteor? Where?
 
Super Mario Bro said:
Just a note, but I think Mega-Heracross will be better off using Close Combat as its Fighting STAB, assuming Arm Thrust wasn't buffed to 25 BP like the other multi-hit moves.
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Close Combat completely removes the bulk. If you're using CC, you might as well use a different item.
 
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