Stats always round down, so Timid Gothitelle with Scarf will miss Greninja by a point.
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Pretty much what Salt said but don't bother with the Tri attack. Ice beam and Thunderbolt both hit a lot of things and Toxic for that stall while taking damage and Recover'ing it of.
Porygon2 is massive knock off bait, so anything that can resist it and doesn't care much about losing its item will work great.
What's the best way to spectate on matches between high-level players?
Smogon Premier League, or SPL. They have replays here: http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/spl-5-logs-replays.3497301/
Anything else aside from that? I've already consumed up all all replays. I'm trying to look for matches to view on a consistent basis. Perhaps a way to view matches on PS between players of high ranks?
Go to the OverUsed room on Showdown and look for the best players there. RS 7n7 or whatever alt he uses now is one of the best. Most mods/drivers/voices there are also really good.
Sadly though, theres no easy way to spectate the "best players" other than that or watching official smogon tournaments' replays.
Uh sorry to bother you all, but I'm new and didn't know where else to ask this without making a whole new thread.
How do you counter Cosmic Power/Stored Power Clefable?
My Gengar's Sludge Bomb doesn't even dent it and it wasn't a set mentioned in the OU analysis on Clefable.
I don't want to bother them because I'm probably just overlooking something obvious .
How do you counter Cosmic Power/Stored Power Clefable?
My Gengar's Sludge Bomb doesn't even dent it and it wasn't a set mentioned in the OU analysis on Clefable.
I don't want to bother them because I'm probably just overlooking something obvious .
(1) Residual damage like Toxic, Burn, and Leech Seed to bypass defense increases
(2) Phazing like Roar, Whirlwind, Yawn to force switch
(3) Pokemon that resists Psychic-type attack (Dark is best since it is immune) or a pokemon that can withstand a strong neutral Psychic-type attack and hit back hard
(4) The move Punishment (opposite of Stored Power) (although Clefable does resist it)
(5) Stored Power starts at 20BP and increases by 20 for each stage of stat increase (so +40 for each Cosmic Power). Even at +2 Cosmic Powers, the move still only has BP100, and Clefable has had to set up for two turns. As soon as you see you are dealing with the CP/SP set, you can switch out to a pokemon that counters it and give Clefable at most 2 turns of setting up.
You were going for SE-damage on Clefable with Sludge Bomb, but with a frail pokemon that has a weakness to Psychic (Gengar). You really had no chance of winning. The standard CP/SP Clefable set runs max HP/SpD, and the damage calc is....
252 SpA Gengar Sludge Bomb vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Clefable: 228-270 (57.8 - 68.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
That's with no set up at all. If Clefable also carries Moonlight, it can CP, Moonlight, CPx2, Moonlight, then CPx3. Then it's at +6CP on your Gengar and Stored Power now has 260BP. Dealing with it is essentially how you deal with any other setup sweeper, except in this case Clefable isn't very strong without the setup to begin with. (That is, it's not like a Garchomp or Excadrill that can still sweep without boosts.)
The problem is that it has Magic Guard otherwise I would've just used toxic and let that take care of it. My Mega Lucario (this was on wifi and before the ban) couldn't touch it either. Thanks though, I hadn't considered phazers and maybe something with roar could take care of it. Punishment is a good idea too. Thank you so much.
List of pokemon that can (usually) counter Clefable--that is, switch in on Clefable at full HP and threaten it out or kill it--assuming you don't waste turns letting it set up:
Swords Dance Aegislash (esp. with Iron Head)
Mega Venusaur (sleep powder is a plus, getting it in IMMEDIATELY is a must)
Bisharp with at least 104 HP Evs
Heatran (can tank all day thanks to quad-resisting moonblast, being immune to flamethrower, and resisting stored power, and can spam flash cannon until it crits or roar it out to give a different pokemon a better chance to kill it later--esp. if you can roar it out while it has some damage on it)
Swords Dance Talonflame (you will beat it to +6, though it can't take too strong of a stored power)
Excadrill (even Jolly) - (resists moonblast and stored power and can flinch with iron head - AV helps with flamethrower)
Mega Mawile
Landorus-I with sludge wave (like Mega Venu, getting it in IMMEDIATELY is a must)
Other options:
Taunt it
Trick it a choice item (esp. if it's the last thing left on your opponents team so it can't switch out)
Put it to sleep and kill it before it wakes up (Mega Venusaur is best for this)
pHaze it out and try again later
DO NOT TOXIC OR LEECH SEED IT. Most CP/SP Clefables are magic guard, meaning you will be wasting a turn.
Also, punishment won't really work because it resists it and it is boosting its own defenses at the same time.
Oh, I assumed Unaware over Magic Guard since I usually see Unaware on those sets, but you're right. The best counters are then phazing, killing it before it gets too many boosts, or using a Dark-type pokemon (if you know it also does not have Moonblast, but it probably does), and Taunt (which I forgot to list originally). Taunt goes for any setup sweeper in general though.
Clefable actually resists Punishment (and it's also sort of a gimmicky move, so isn't very common), so I wouldn't use it in this case.
Okay, thanks alot guys. I knew it must've been something simple that I was overlooking. Guess I'll try to find a phazer for my team then try a rematch. I still have the battle video from that one, it was horrific. I was simply slaughtered.
Yeah, Taunt and phazing are pretty standard tools to have on a team anyway. So you don't have to rely on anything too gimmicky. I think Heatran may be the best counter. Clefable's damage moves are almost always a selection from Moonblast, Stored Power (in this case), and Flamethrower. Heatran resists all three of those types (double resist, single resist, immunity). Flash Cannon is SE-damage and Heatran also often carries Roar.
One thing I forgot to mention was that this was doubles. Clefable had some powerhouse partners (Mega Blaziken, Greninja, and Haxorus to name a few) that I was busy trying to shutdown before they swept me and I ended up underestimating that thing.
Yes, because Mold Breaker directly ignores all abilities.
People use this to calculate damage http://pokemonshowdown.com/damagecalc/ you can access it in showdown by typing /calc into any chat.
As for the calculations:
252+ SpA Mold Breaker Mega Ampharos Focus Blast vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Mega Aggron: 410-484 (119.1 - 140.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252+ SpA Mold Breaker Mega Ampharos Focus Blast vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Mega Aggron: 286-338 (83.1 - 98.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Thanks
Mold Breaker ignores Filter, yes, so it calculates full SE damage instead of the Filtered damage.
Basically any ability that would prevent an attack from taking effect gets ignored. You can lay hazards on a Magic Bounce user, hit a Sap Sipper with a Grass-type attack, Earthquake a Levitate user, keep your boosts while smashing an Unaware Pokemon, 1HKO a Sturdy Pokemon, do full damage to a Multiscale Dragonite, crit a Battle Armor user, kill Shedinja with any non-fighting non-normal damaging move, so on and so forth. It's a great offensive ability.
edit: blastit spent too long typing
Thanks tho anyway
So I'm a lazy person and while I would prefer to have Landourus-I and Deoxys-S for my 3DS team I'd rather use guys who can be or are just as good but easier to find. So far I've come up with Gengar and Garchomp (comparable to both in terms of speed and power of the other two). For reference my other members are DD Mega-Ttar, Banded Azumarill, Sassy Ferrothorn, and Mandibuzz.
What I'd like to know is what I should make Gengar and Garchomp. I'm thinking:
Gengar @ life orb
Timid 252 SpA/ 4 SpD/ 252 Spe
~Shadow Ball
~Focus Blast
~Sludge Wave
~Destiny Bond
Garchomp @ Choice Scraf
Jolly 4 HP/ 252 Att/ 252 Spe
~Outrage
~Earthquake
~Stone Edge
~Dragon Claw
Any suggestions, comments, or constructive criticisms on these members or on the team as a whole would be appreciated. Just make sure that any new pokemons you suggest are easy to obtain please.
What I'd like to know is what I should make Gengar and Garchomp. I'm thinking:
Gengar @ life orb
Timid 252 SpA/ 4 SpD/ 252 Spe
~Shadow Ball
~Focus Blast
~Sludge Wave
~Destiny Bond
Garchomp @ Choice Scraf
Jolly 4 HP/ 252 Att/ 252 Spe
~Outrage
~Earthquake
~Stone Edge
~Dragon Claw
Any suggestions, comments, or constructive criticisms on these members or on the team as a whole would be appreciated. Just make sure that any new pokemons you suggest are easy to obtain please.
You get them from using Dream Radar on the 3DS when HeartGold or SoulSilver is in the game cart slot. You have to get Landorus first (which takes a few days) and you need a copy of Black 2 or White 2 to send it to.
Damn, so I'd also have to buy HG/SS anyway. Oh well. Thanks.
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