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The Everything NHL Thread
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Thanks for clearing that up. If memory serves me correctly this time, you designed the smogon skull-and-crossbones for the shirts. And yeah, good point overall.
Back on topic, how about them Kings? I wasn't able to watch games 2 and 3 as I was out of town but it looks like a pretty rough series with all the OTs. I see a lot of talk in this thread and on facebook with people saying that the east has had no chance against the west this season when comparing size and speed... it sure seemed like that in the beginning of the season. One more win and my team will have obtained more Stanley Cups than Anaheim which will sure piss off my friends who are Ducks fans. Looking forward to it.
For NYR to even win this series they need to do what the Kings did in R1 and become just the fourth team to win a series from a 3 game deficit. My fiance told me that she might be willing to drive to LAX if the Kings beat the Rangers tomorrow to welcome them home. Should be a blast if she could muster up the will and energy to go out (if it even happens).
e: ah yes, i knew something was a 4th lol.
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5th
'42 Leafs
Some Flyers team iirc
Some team twoish years ago (sharks?)
Kings this year
Would be the second team to do so in the finals ('42 Leafs having done so)
the two middle teams are the 2010 flyers and the 1975 islanders
Ya, LA was really lucky game 4.
Ok maybe not game 4, but they've definitely been having more puck luck overall. Plus their one goal was a lucky break(no pun intended), so not like they had nothing.
They have gotten luck. Coming back from 3-0, winning 3 Game 7s, and winning 3 straight OT games. But they spend so little time in their own zone that theyre going to get those lucky breaks more often than the other team.
Ehhhh...wouldn't say the comeback and game 7 wins were luck, and i'm a Ranger fan so you know where my bias lies. San Jose always sucks come playoffs, so the fact that they choked isn't too extreme. LA outscored their opponents something like 16-7 in those game 7s. But yeah game 7 WCF was lucky and game 2 SCF the 2OT win should've been a regulation loss but hey, not like King interfered with Hank or anything.....
http://deadspin.com/luck-is-hockeys-bullshit-dump-1589814304
I'll just go ahead and leave this here
(also don't forget the BoSox 3-0 comeback against the Yanks, that was the shit)
I'll just go ahead and leave this here
(also don't forget the BoSox 3-0 comeback against the Yanks, that was the shit)
Damn. I'd say rangers were close, but that'd be a bit of a lie :( Still, I hope people don't look at this series as just another 4-1 beating given LA. 4 one goal games, 3 overtimes, 2 Double OTs....great series for all the neutral or LA fans. Not so much for us Rags fans but other than them losing, it was a good 5 games of hockey. What does everyone think? Does 4-1 really tell you how close the series was? I'd argue no.
I think this is one of the few years in recent memory where the runner-up really isn't going to be looked at as a cup contender the following year. St. Louis is probably done, Richards has shown that he can't keep up; in all honesty, if it wasn't for Lundqvist standing on his head, Mcdonagh and Girardi playing well and some decent output from some lesser guys on the Rangers, I would be surprised if they made it past the first round. All in all the Rangers got some lucky bounces and were underestimated by the Pens, they were basically the least smelly turd out of their shitty conference.
Lol if our big name guys actually showed up at all, let alone a bit more. If they showed up at any point outside of philly, we might still be watching hockey. I think richards only goal after that was in the PIT series. And don't get me started on Nash....3 goals in 25 games, 2 of which were garbarge goals. What do you expect for $6.7 million and $8 million? Being clutch? Scoring goals when you need to? Lol I guess my expectations were too high, silly me. I wouldn't be surprised if Richie is amnestied after how he disappeared.
Granted there's personal bias from me but I'll try to breakdown your points.
Agree with you on richie, but not on St. Louis. Guy had 61 points/62 games before the trade, finished with 69/81, which is still a respectable total. Granted he could be another star whose skills die when they come to NY(Drury, Gomez, Richards, Redden, Nash?), he at least showed up in the playoffs. Plus Hank gets payed to stand on his head and steal games. That's what great goalies do. Besides, his competition wasn't exactly "elite level" (Emery/Mason, Fleury, Tokarski)
Girardi and Mac are a pretty capable top 2, so they should play well. Plus Girardi's turnover in game 1 cost that game and his corsi and fenwick #'s were ass. Output from lesser guys is something teams need to win championships. That's just depth. Kings had more of it. That and hank are why they got to the got to the finals. Wouldn't say other teams didn't get bounces so that's just puck luck. Pens getting knocked out by a lower seeded team and surrendering a 3-1 lead are nothing new. They seem complacent with their division championship banners. And i'd say the bruins didn't smell at all, they just lost to the olympic divi...i mean canadiens
Top scorer in the entire playoffs could have something to do with that. I was almost expecting Lundy to get it, but as a Kings fan and Williams jersey owner, I'm happy with the outcome!
In slow days in hockey...
1.) Penguins spurned by first head coach choice and screwed cause the best guy left is the guy they let go
2.) habs resign markov for THREE years (damn)...not sure what this means in regards to P.K. Subban and his restricted free agency
3.) hartnell traded to cbj for umberger and draft pick...no comment
4.) still no news on kesler / spezza / thornton trade locations (minus the no trade teams thornton and spezza submitted), kind of a big deal because good offensive centers changing teams always significantly changes team dynamics
thoughts?
1.) Penguins spurned by first head coach choice and screwed cause the best guy left is the guy they let go
2.) habs resign markov for THREE years (damn)...not sure what this means in regards to P.K. Subban and his restricted free agency
3.) hartnell traded to cbj for umberger and draft pick...no comment
4.) still no news on kesler / spezza / thornton trade locations (minus the no trade teams thornton and spezza submitted), kind of a big deal because good offensive centers changing teams always significantly changes team dynamics
thoughts?
My thoughts are that it feels good to be a Hurricanes fan watching our former GM destroy another team.
1.) The Markov contract is literally the same contract he signed in 2011. 3 years @ $5.75 per for a 32 year old isn't too bad. The same contract for a 35 year old with bad knees is, frankly, it's idiotic. If he's worth ~$6 million per year, then how can anybody say Subban isn't worth like $8.5 million+? Plus now all the other FA defensemen(Boyle, Niskanen, Stralman, etc) can justify why someone should overpay them.
2.) Lol was there any point in this trade? They're both wingers(Umberger played center at some point in his NHL time I think...) both making about the same money (Hartsy: $4.85 million vs R.J.: $4.7 million). Only thought is umberger's contract ends in 2017 while Hartnell's ends in 2019. 4th round pick is essentially irrelevant. Total wash, maybe 51/49 in favor of CBJ.
3.) Kesler is apparently only willing to go to Pittsburgh, Chicago, or Anaheim, so there's that. Thing with centers is they tend to either work out great (Carter in LA, Briere in Philly initially) or are just really shitty (Gomez, Drury, Richards in NY, Richards in LA(argueable), Carter in CBJ)
Predictions for those 3 are as follows:
Kesler: Pittsburgh
Spezza: Anaheim
Thornton: San Jose
What's everyones thoughts on the somewhat barren free agent pool come July 1? Notable UFA fowards include:
Vanek(MTL), Moulson(MIN),
UFA defenseman:
Boyle(SJ), Niskanen(PIT), Stralman(NYR), Orpik(PIT), Meszaros(BOS), and alot of other
Goalies are basically Miller(STL), Hiller(ANA), Brodeur(NJ), and Bryzgalov(MIN).
What does anybody think?
Edit: Will be updating this if players resign.
Callahan: 6 years @ $5.8 million per year. 4 years of NTC
Gaborik: 7 years @ ~$4.8 million per year.
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Pitt will resign Jokinen and Niskanen for sure, both were extremely key in the regular season success and the little success they had in the post (Niskanen was the stand out d-man in Pitt this season imo). They won't resign Orpik though as they simply have too much depth and already have Martin filling the role of a veteran D, Orpik also knows that he can get a lucrative short-term contract so he really has no reason to stay. I don't really have any comment on anyone else but I am very curious to see where Brodeur and Heater will land.
Problem is they have $55 million tied up to 14 players. Let's say the cap goes up to $70 million for arguement's sake, and Idk what the vibe around the team is as per who goes and who stays, but they also need to resign Sutter who's an RFA, easily could get 3-4 million, maybe bring back rentals Goc and Stempniak, and need to resign what little depth guys they have in Vitale, Gibbons, Engelland, Glass, etc. Plus, they should probably go out and get a backup who can be a 1A when the playoffs start (Brodeur?) and Fluery inevitabley implodes and melts down. Having Vokoun at $2 million was a steal. Niskanen could easily want $5 million and he'd be worth it, and i'm sure alot of other teams would take him for 5 mill in a heartbeat. Shero really screwed them with these contracts, so it'll be nothing if not interesting to see how Rutherford comes in and sorts out the mess he's willing to take on.
Ya all valid points but I think that Jokinen and Niskanen are priority for the Pens rn. As for a goalie, that is definitely the #1 acquisition that needs to be made in the offseason; my money is on Greiss but you could speculate just about anyone.