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Answer: (That I can't provide myself because limited internet data) Watch the video. Does releasing Megazard Y activate Drought? If yes, then yes. If no... well, you get the picture.
 
Whatwasthatnoise said:
Answer: (That I can't provide myself because limited internet data) Watch the video. Does releasing Megazard Y activate Drought? If yes, then yes. If no... well, you get the picture.
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The video itself doesn't show shit with that. However, I severely doubt that hacking it in would leave it without an abillity. It's more of a question of whether or not the ability changes upon the mega mega-evolving
 
Peef Rimgar said:
The video itself doesn't show shit with that. However, I severely doubt that hacking it in would leave it without an abillity. It's more of a question of whether or not the ability changes upon the mega mega-evolving
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Actually, looking at it again now that I'm home and have a free moment, checking the sun's appearance in-battle in-game for comparison against the video, it does not appear to have activated Drought. There isn't any sunlight shining onto the battle field during all of this, nor is any shining on the bottom screen. Granted, the camera angles and low quality could just be making it hard to see. And he could have been out 6 turns for some reason as well.

Though without being able to compare stats beyond HP, and without knowing the IVs/EVs to compare anyway, I'm not calling anything for certain yet. The apparent lack of Drought suggests megas are cosmetic if hacked directly, but there's not enough proof here IMO. Especially not for something that'd have such a drastic impact on the meta.
 
Rumors said:
Actually, looking at it again now that I'm home and have a free moment, checking the sun's appearance in-battle in-game for comparison against the video, it does not appear to have activated Drought. There isn't any sunlight shining onto the battle field during all of this, nor is any shining on the bottom screen. Granted, the camera angles and low quality could just be making it hard to see. And he could have been out 6 turns for some reason as well.

Though without being able to compare stats beyond HP, and without knowing the IVs/EVs to compare anyway, I'm not calling anything for certain yet. The apparent lack of Drought suggests megas are cosmetic if hacked directly, but there's not enough proof here IMO. Especially not for something that'd have such a drastic impact on the meta.
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it couldve been given another ability via hacking or something...i cant really see the video for some reason, so if there's evidence against, don't mind my ignorance please. lol.
 
Kit Kasai said:
Because we're not sure if it works in game. The simulator needs to reflect in game as close as possible, that's why we're researching it.
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Also you need to be sure to implement mega charizard Y being able to mega evolve into X, and vice versa, and the same with MM2.
 
adrian and I were in contact with Marty about this like a month back and we got confirmation on this and we posted it. I don't see the reason to get confirmation when we already have it. I understand if you guys didn't see that but just posting this again so you are all informed

Arcticblast edit: it's Marty D
 
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What I want is confirmation is if Megas are cosmetic or that Zard-Y either had its ability changes or waited for its sun to end. But I can't find anything on it via searching, except for that video since I know what to look for. My search-fu is weak.
 
Rumors said:
What I want is confirmation is if Megas are cosmetic or that Zard-Y either had its ability changes or waited for its sun to end. But I can't find anything on it via searching, except for that video since I know what to look for. My search-fu is weak.
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Since people have been asking, I can guarantee that Megas are not cosmetic. That Charizard-Y was just hacked directly in via the Japanese editor thingy, but because the default ability for Charizar in the editor is Blaze and it wasn't changed, it had normal Charizard's Blaze instead of Drought. It still had the stats of Mega Charizard-Y, and you could have given it any damn ability or move you wanted via the hack thingy. Kind of like Hackmons, huh? ;)
 
Why is this even relevant for BH? In BH, they can all have any ability they please (save for the banned ones), so it shouldn't matter if the hacked in set has the original ability of the pokemon or not.
 
If directly hacked megas are cosmetic only until they megavolve properly, then that would mean all of the megas we're using should have the same stats/typing as their base forms. The posted video suggests that may be the case, but there's too much room for doubt to be certain. Such a thing would also have too much impact on the meta to fix, if it is a thing, when there's plenty of room for doubt as well. Hence I'm trying (and failing) to find more concrete evidence that shows how directly hacked megas behave so we can know if the current implementation is correct or not.
 
Peef Rimgar said:
http://gyazo.com/c3d15625979ff43572a5666fbded2e6d

Confirmation that ZardY's ability did activate upon being hacked in, according to the hacker.
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But... there's NO sunlight in the video. I just checked again. Same time of day, used Sunny Day before megavolving into X to simulate Drought. In my game, the sunlight is clearly visible prior, during, and after mega-evolution when using all the exact same moves and against the same opponent. In the video, there's not any sunlight at all. It's not a low quality or bad camera issue. That Zard-Y either didn't have Drought (either stuck with Blaze or was hacked a different ability) or the user, for whatever reason, waited for it to end before mega-evolving in that video.

Sorry if I'm coming across stubborn, but I like hard proof in these sorts of things. Like, hard proof that doesn't leave doubts.
 
Rumors said:
But... there's NO sunlight in the video. I just checked again. Same time of day, used Sunny Day before megavolving into X to simulate Drought. In my game, the sunlight is clearly visible prior, during, and after mega-evolution when using all the exact same moves and against the same opponent. In the video, there's not any sunlight at all. It's not a low quality or bad camera issue. That Zard-Y either didn't have Drought (either stuck with Blaze or was hacked a different ability) or the user, for whatever reason, waited for it to end before mega-evolving in that video.

Sorry if I'm coming across stubborn, but I like hard proof in these sorts of things. Like, hard proof that doesn't leave doubts.
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I mean, for our purposes, it really doesn't matter, since anything can have any ability anyways.
 
True.... But Rumors is being OCD... I consider it decent proof, and the creators of this can be creative.

On a completely unrelated tangent, I have an idea about a sweeper disabler and serious mewtwo counter.

The Ninja (Genesect) @ Choice Scarf
Max Evs, no attack, Max ivs, no attack.
Flash Fire
-Trick
-Milk Drink
-Flamethrower
-Bug Buzz/Filler
 
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BH has always served as a testing ground for helping PS be as mechanically accurate as it can be by exposing players to combinations that can't be legally recreated in cartridge. I can't say I've been following this too closely (mega evolution mechanics always confuse me) but if this is something people are willing to do it'd be nice. Not necessary, but nice.
 
Kit Kasai said:
Only question I have is if megas can mevo into themselves. The only X Y forme megas are charizard and mewtwos. Mewtwos don't like wasting an item slot and charizards are outclassed in BH if they use their standard abilities.
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They can. When I use my Venusaurite Mega Venusaur, I get prompted to mega evolve.
 
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