That's because we're missing too much information, and any discussion is going to be purely hypothetical. We don't know their stats or full move pools. All we really know is their abilities, typing, and some of their move pool.Just for curiosity's sake, if we wanted to competitively discuss the new megas, where should we do it? The regular forums tell us that all discussion of unreleased content should be on Orange Islands, but Orange Islands tell us all competitive discussion should be done in the main forums, leaving us unable to discuss the competitive implications of these new Pokemon on this competitive Pokemon website. Seems a bit silly to me.