Heatran is still sort of a bitch atm, but Fire Punch has its uses because it's otherwise bait for SD zor and Ferrothorn, so I'd definitely slash it in. Whether it's first or last is up to you.i'm updating dragonite after the mawile ban and i want to get some input on the cb set. i think outrage / extreme speed / thunder punch / superpower is the best set. with mega mawile and aegislash now out of the picture, there is no reason to use earthquake over superpower outside of drops. earthquake is a risky move to use, too, because it can afford many foes switch-ins and setup opportunities. thunder punch is really useful to smack azumarill, as well as hitting skarmory. thanks to superpower hitting ferrothorn, you lose no coverage, so this set just seems flat-out better.
i feel like having fire punch on spdef nite would be good for ferrothorn and mega scizor, but eq hitting heatran is also very useful for that set in particular. any thoughts?
because assault vest tyranitar loses stealth rocks, is quite weak, and much prefers smooth rock or choice scarf. not to mention that it has a buttload of weaknesses so it gets worn down quickly.Why is Assault Vest Tyranitar not in his XY Analysis?
Tyranitar @ Assault Vest
Ability: Sand Stream
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 SpD
Careful Nature
- Crunch
- Earthquake
- Stone Edge/Rock Slide
- Pursuit/Ice Punch/Fire Punch
You can also run a Sassy nature and run Flamethrower/Ice Beam so you can destroy Scizor, Forretress and Ferrothorn, or Garchomp, Gliscor, Landorus-T and Salamence on the switch, where the vast majority of which would have been able to threaten a KO
252+ SpA Adaptability Mega Lucario Aura Sphere vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Assault Vest Tyranitar in Sand: 264-312 (65.3 - 77.2%)
I'll just let that sink in
I personally think it should be there
I disagree on all but loss of SR, yes, no SR is a bummer, but when you are taking 20% from a Mega Venusaur's invested Giga Drain, you can hardly say that weaknesses wear it down quickly...because assault vest tyranitar loses stealth rocks, is quite weak, and much prefers smooth rock or choice scarf. not to mention that it has a buttload of weaknesses so it gets worn down quickly.
Sorry, 25%, besides with Wish support he can wreck houseI disagree on all but loss of SR, yes, no SR is a bummer, but when you are taking 20% from a Mega Venusaur's invested Giga Drain, you can hardly say that weaknesses wear it down quickly...
And it's a TTar, how is he weak? I hardly call base 134 Attack "weak" even when uninvested
because when uninvested, you hit like a pansy(seriously, mega manectric runs full investment and is still considered weak) and you practically invite stuff like mega gyarados to set up all over you. also, what does it do for a team outside of taking special hits? pursuit? that isn't worth the risk of of letting mega gyarados set up all over you. oh, and residual damage stacks up rather quickly when you have no recovery, so eventually it gets chipped away at so much that it can't do its job anymore. and wish support can apply to pretty much every wall w/o recovery in the game.I disagree on all but loss of SR, yes, no SR is a bummer, but when you are taking 20% from a Mega Venusaur's invested Giga Drain, you can hardly say that weaknesses wear it down quickly...
And it's a TTar, how is he weak? I hardly call base 134 Attack "weak" even when uninvested