Close Combat is the way to go unfortunately. Stone Edge is inconsistent and hits almost the same types as Flying does. With Close Combat, you have a 120BP that can reliably hit Rotom-W and Skarm, etc.
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I've SR for a Bold Diancie however im torn between which set to use
Croancie
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Move 1: Calm Mind
Move 2: Rest
Move 3: Sleep Talk
Move 4: Moonblast
Ability: Clear Body
Item: Leftovers
Nature: Bold
EVs: 248 HP / 252 Def / 8 SpD
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Dual Screens
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Move 1: Reflect
Move 2: Light Screen
Move 3: Diamond Storm/Moonblast
Move 4: Explosion/Toxic
Ability: Clear Body
Item: Light Clay
Nature: Impish/Bold
EVs: 248 HP / 252 Def / 8 SpD
Which one is better
Croancie
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Move 1: Calm Mind
Move 2: Rest
Move 3: Sleep Talk
Move 4: Moonblast
Ability: Clear Body
Item: Leftovers
Nature: Bold
EVs: 248 HP / 252 Def / 8 SpD
or
Dual Screens
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Move 1: Reflect
Move 2: Light Screen
Move 3: Diamond Storm/Moonblast
Move 4: Explosion/Toxic
Ability: Clear Body
Item: Light Clay
Nature: Impish/Bold
EVs: 248 HP / 252 Def / 8 SpD
Which one is better
Although, if you are unable, or hard pressed, to find another Pinsir with usable IVs/Evs, that Pinsir would actually make a surprisingly good lure for pokemon like Zapdos and Thundurus, common checks, that both get smacked by Stone Edge. It's not as reliable as cc, but it does give you a surprise factor.
However, without quick attack, this set won't really be able to flourish as well as normal M-Pinsirs, but it shouldn't be too much of a problem, you'd just have to worry about faster threats a little more.
Ok ill try it. I normally battle my friend who are scrubs and don't smogon sets so i shouldn't have any trouble with my pinsir there but with online battle i might have trouble
We're not sure there's any new stuff (the demo was pretty much mined top to bottom). It is a little suspicious that they revealed all the new Megas before hand... The Orange Islands sub-forum (can't link because I'm on my mobile) has talked extensively about this subject, you should head over there.
Calm Mind, Rest, Offense
The set was named Crocune after its creator, Cromat
I was wondering how to deal with mega sableye, I was vs. some dude and his mega sableye destroyed me. Can somebody help?
Unaware Clefable is great answer to Mega sableye
Most Fairy-types, especially Specially oriented ones, such as Sylveon, Clefable and Mega Gardevoir are great answers to Mega Sableye.
The best non-mega counter to Mega-Sableye by far is Clefable, particularly the Unaware variant. If you want something more offensive, Choice Specs Sylveon is a good counter too. If you can afford to dedicate your mega slot to countering Mega-Sableye, Mega-Gardevoir and Mega-Altaria and are also very good answers.
edit : double ninja'd
no, it won't
It will if you use baton pass though.
What are some good sets for M-Gallade and M-Salamence?
Gallade (M) @ Galladite
Ability: Justified
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Swords Dance
- Close Combat
- Zen Headbutt
- Knock Off / Shadow Sneak / Ice Punch
Salamence @ Salamencite
Ability: Intimidate
Happiness: 0
EVs: 72 HP / 252 Atk / 184 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Dragon Dance
- Frustration
- Earthquake
- Roost
Okay, thanks, is the Salamence supposed to be 0 happiness cause of ditto?
Gallade (M) @ Galladite
Ability: Justified
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Swords Dance
- Close Combat
- Zen Headbutt
- Knock Off / Shadow Sneak / Ice Punch
Salamence @ Salamencite
Ability: Intimidate
Happiness: 0
EVs: 72 HP / 252 Atk / 184 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Dragon Dance
- Frustration
- Earthquake
- Roost
Yeah, because most Ditto's run max happiness, using Frustration will do little damage :]
Salamence has a large number of sets. You can run a bulkier spread with Substitute or Refresh over Earthquake, a mixed or special set with Return/Fustration or Hyper Voice, Fire Blast, Draco Meteor, and Earthquake or Hydro Pump, or even a mixed DD set with Return, Fire Blast, and Draco Meteor or Earthquake.
Gallade has a couple of options too, it can run Substitute over either Zen Headbutt or Knock Off, while this does leave it walled by either Fairies or Psychics, it enables Gallade to set up over Status users such as Mew and Rotom-W. Taunt is a pretty niche but still viable option which achieves more-or-less the same purpose, while stopping the opponent from recovering.
also TheEnder your answers may be faster but mine contain more information so there.
Gallade has a couple of options too, it can run Substitute over either Zen Headbutt or Knock Off, while this does leave it walled by either Fairies or Psychics, it enables Gallade to set up over Status users such as Mew and Rotom-W. Taunt is a pretty niche but still viable option which achieves more-or-less the same purpose, while stopping the opponent from recovering.
also TheEnder your answers may be faster but mine contain more information so there.
He asked for some good sets, and while you may have posted more options, I gave my my personal preferance on the sets. Of course, sets may depend from team to team, with Gallade having the option to go 4 Attacks, Sub, or even Agility, and Salamence having a plethora of sets, whereas Special, Mixed, Specially Defensive Facade, Bulky Body Slam all are good options. Heh.
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